K-Sport Coilover Kit, anyone?

[PHRiSCo]

Anyone know if these are any good?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33582&item=7938600431&rd=1

[PHRiSCo]

Or these? NEX? Same price...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33582&item=7938601244&rd=1

[Mr. Win]

id be curious to fitment but they look hella nice.

[night rider]

never seen or heard of these before, but the first set looks delicious.

[UnNaturalinc]

Wow, someone get those and post how they are. :)

[txrxs]

are these setups similar to ground controls, or are they more like teins.

[Mr. Win]

A quick search turned this up... still searching.

Ksport Kontrol Pro Fully Adjustable Coilover Kits provide the ultimate in suspension technology featuring its 36-way adjustable dampening, adjustable spring perch, adjustable body and pillow-ball mounts on some applications. The Ksport Kontrol Pro Coilover kit has been designed with professional road racing in mind offering extremely high value and performance. *Front and rear pillow ball mounts*

I dont know anyone that has these installed on ther Protege but we do have a couple of people in the probe/mx6 world that have them installed. This is what one the people that has them installed had to say about them:

For those who are sitting on this one, I have to say that purchasing the K-sports were one of the best decisions I made for my Probe. http://forums.probetalk.com/images/smilies/icon_thumb.gif The ride quality is even better than I anticipated. Set on soft, the ride is firm but controlled and does not rattle your teeth when you hit rough pavement like the kind found on nearly every Michigan road. http://forums.probetalk.com/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif These things are leagues better than the KYB/Eibach setup they replaced and the adjustability is there for track use. For the money, you certainly can't go wrong. I'll be uploading some pics to my website soon.
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review from a probe http://forums.probetalk.com/showthread.php?t=1701115226

['Sploder]

Funny that this would pop up on here the day I was looking for more info on them. Yeah the k-sport ones look quality and have a good price. I'm interested to know how they stack up against the teins tho. When I was researching I did find out that the spring rates were 7 kg/mm and 5 kg/mm f/r. Fo sho anyone who has these plz post!

[JHew84]

ya, they have been running GB's on them for the probe for a few months now, noone has recieved theirs and installed them yet so there hasn't been any reviews, but i guess the 240 guys in japan have nothing but rave reviews (coming from the GB leaders) on the K-Sports, the others i've never heard of...

[KaliCali]

I just purchased the K-Sports and they're sitting in my trunk. I was hesitant to buy them given their low low low low... price. I mean if you look at it on paper these are comprable to JICs and are even more adjustable than most Teins (actually way better than anything that Tein offers for our cars: basic and SS pshh).

But my initial look at them is that they really do look great. Quality is a thumbs up as well. I just found out that their company overseas is called D2, which I have heard of in Hong Kong. They have a very nice shop in HK. So these guys are not totally unknown, and they do have racing exp.

check it out:
http://www.d2racing.com.tw/
http://www.ksportusa.com

I'll be installing these this weekend, and hopfully they'll satisfy my expectations.

Oh yea... Buy that ebay auction, I bought mine for $670 and I thought that was a good deal already. =T

[digitalpro5]

How tasty...if they are reliable I'd get these as a cheaper alternative than the teins.

[Mark94]

Do these have a wrench to adjust the height of the car? I really don't see anything like that in the photos. What are those 4 little flat pieces of metal in some of those photos? Are they the height adjustment tools?

Finally, do these have dust boots? I don't think I see a dust boot in the photos.

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to do research and make sure I don't get stuck with something I don't want.

[CustomMSP]

Do these have a wrench to adjust the height of the car? I really don't see anything like that in the photos. What are those 4 little flat pieces of metal in some of those photos? Are they the height adjustment tools?

Finally, do these have dust boots? I don't think I see a dust boot in the photos.

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to do research and make sure I don't get stuck with something I don't want.
Mark,

Are these the same ones you were looking at a few weeks ago? I wish I could afford a set of coils, but I need tires first.

[UnNaturalinc]

I just purchased the K-Sports and they're sitting in my trunk. I was hesitant to buy them given their low low low low... price. I mean if you look at it on paper these are comprable to JICs and are even more adjustable than most Teins (actually way better than anything that Tein offers for our cars: basic and SS pshh).

But my initial look at them is that they really do look great. Quality is a thumbs up as well. I just found out that their company overseas is called D2, which I have heard of in Hong Kong. They have a very nice shop in HK. So these guys are not totally unknown, and they do have racing exp.

check it out:
http://www.d2racing.com.tw/
http://www.ksportusa.com

I'll be installing these this weekend, and hopfully they'll satisfy my expectations.

Oh yea... Buy that ebay auction, I bought mine for $670 and I thought that was a good deal already. =T

Good info, thanks!

[2k3 PrO RiDa]

I hope the price of these coilovers right now stays at the same price for a while so i can get some of these later down the road.K sport's site says they retail for about $1,412.50.

[Mark94]

Mark,

Are these the same ones you were looking at a few weeks ago? I wish I could afford a set of coils, but I need tires first.

Yeah Anatoly, they are the same. It's just so hard to pull the trigger on these because there are no PROTEGE reviews. I hear abour people with Probe's and 240's but they aren't Protege's.

I keep asking all these questions because the Tien's I had on my Prelude were in the 2nd shipment ever from Japan and I thought I was getting a "true" height adjustable system with height adjustment tools but it was the TEIN NR system which required you to use a spring compressor and then relocated a colar on the strut then release the spring. WAY TOO MUCH WORK so I never changed the height of the car and I paid a lot for them back them. so I just want to make sure that I would be happy with something like this and it is what I expect it to be.

Mark

[CustomMSP]

Understandable.

[Bijou-MP5]

very interesting...

[122 Vega]

But are they compression adjust or rebound? It just says "damping" which usually refers to compression. There really is no point in buying a strut that does not have rebound adjustment.

Britt

[Mark94]

ahhh Jeez...

Then Britt pops in here and throws out something that makes me even more confused :)

Would you mind explaining a little more Britt?

Mark

[CustomMSP]

But are they compression adjust or rebound? It just says "damping" which usually refers to compression. There really is no point in buying a strut that does not have rebound adjustment.

Britt
This is required for track use, but I don't think it would be too important for the street.

[KaliCali]

There is no reboud adjustment, just compression. Wouldn't it be ludicrous if it was that adjustable? I mean for the price look at what adjustability you get already...

Gawdd... waiting for the end of the week to come... i can kut these things in...

[Titanium]

well, being part of the probe board I can tell you that they have had a hugh problem with the US dealer. Some of the kits have made it to the people in the frist BB from what I have understood. I dont think anyone got anything on the second BB. The US suppier is now filing for bankruptcy. So who knows if Ksport will find another US importer or what. But I would suggest that no one go through any shop that doesnt have them in stock aready because no one will be able to import them until some kind of change is made. Want some more info:

http://forums.probetalk.com/showthread.php?t=1701114851&page=11&pp=25

[Mr. Win]

yea... i called them and the number was disconnected so i dont know whats going on. Id hold off

[KaliCali]

Yea i've tried to call too, same thing.

I think its just the vendor (Trix Motorsports) that is filing bankruptcy. K-sport itself IS the importer of their products. You make it sound like K-sport is filing bankruptcy.

['Sploder]

very interesting. I hope these things stick around till I have some coin. they sound... interesting...

[PHRiSCo]

Sploder where are you in BC? Part of the BC board? www.mpsport.net (http://www.mpsport.net)

[Titanium]

Yea i've tried to call too, same thing.

I think its just the vendor (Trix Motorsports) that is filing bankruptcy. K-sport itself IS the importer of their products. You make it sound like K-sport is filing bankruptcy.

Trix Motorsports bought the rights to be the importer of K-sport. They are the only company in the US that imports K-sports and they are the ones that sell to other shops. Basically Trix is/was K-sport, USA and that means that K-sport, USA is going out of business.

[122 Vega]

Rebound adjustment is what you want in a single adjustable strut. There is absolutely no reason to adjust your compression on the street. This will only aid in high speed bumps and stuff, where adjustable rebound will actually have a significant effect on handling, turn in and high speed stability.

Britt

[CustomMSP]

Good to know.

[KaliCali]

I was looking over the car tonight to get ready to install these. Heres a question, see if any of you guys can help me out.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/KaliCali/DSC01383.JPG

And...

http://www.msprotege.com/members/KaliCali/DSC01389.JPG

Donno what you call it... but its not there. The arm that connects the roll bar to the strut. Theres no mount on the coilovers. There are 4 pieces of metal that were included that I'm not too sure what its for.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/KaliCali/ksport4[1].jpg

[MSP #167]

I was looking over the car tonight to get ready to install these. Heres a question, see if any of you guys can help me out.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/KaliCali/DSC01383.JPG

And...

http://www.msprotege.com/members/KaliCali/DSC01389.JPG

Donno what you call it... but its not there. The arm that connects the roll bar to the strut. Theres no mount on the coilovers. There are 4 pieces of metal that were included that I'm not too sure what its for.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/KaliCali/ksport4[1].jpg

the 4 pieces of metal you have circled are what you use to adjust the height.

[KaliCali]

No, if your talking about the hooks to adjust spring and perch hight, I have those too.

[Bijou-MP5]

the one you circled is connect to end inks.
maybe k sport does not support connection to endlinks

[122 Vega]

The brackets you circles are the mounting tabs for the brakelines. The tab that is welded on the strut tube is for the endlink, but it will need to be shortened by the looks of it since it is welded lower on the housing relative to the spindle bolts.

Britt

[Mark94]

Thanks for the clarification Britt, I thought it was as simple as it sounds but I just wanted to make sure.

Since Trix is filing for bankruptcy, I guess it wouldn't be a good idea to get these since there would be no one to warranty them or pick up a new one if one of the struts takes a crap one day. Plus, I'm not sure what the solution is to the endlink mounting location since it seems to be too low on the strut body compared to the stock struts.

Does the TEIN SS system have rebound adjustability? I guess I'll just have to save up a little more coin.

Mark

[122 Vega]

teins adjust the rebound and compression together. As the rebound goes up, the compression goes down. These are good street struts, but for the hardcore autoxer or track whore, individual adjustment is better.

Britt

[Mark94]

I'm just a street guy myself. I don't auto-X or street race at all. Just enjoy a nice responsive feel when driving.

The TEIN SS's are definitely overkill for me, but I don't think I'm going to gamble on the K-sport especially if there is no US representation.

Thanks again Britt.

Mark

[122 Vega]

I just talked to two retailers, and they both said that they are a combo adjust like the Tein. So these would be a great street strut, maybe a limited autocross strut.

Britt

[CustomMSP]

So what about the Tokico Illuminas? I'm assuming these are only compression adjustable?

Thanks.

[azeli73]

Hey all, Apex Motorsports in Tempe, AZ can gets these for you at a nice price. Ben has shown me these in person and they are nice set up! http://www.apexr1.com/csoapkcoki.html

[KaliCali]

So I e-mailed D2 in Taiwan to get a solution to the endlink problem. And they said unfortunetly you'll have to cut your stock ones, or order shorter ones from them. They quoted me $75 and that includes shipping.

[Mark94]

At least you know what you have to do to get the endlinks mounted properly but that info would have been nice to know when you ordered the suspension.

Mark

[UnNaturalinc]

If their US importer is going out of business, Apex won't be able to get them anymore if that's the only place they can be purchased.

I would be interested in setting an account up if there is a place these can be purchased from.

[daedalus]

Any update on this? Did you order new endlinks, or cut yours???

[KaliCali]

Going to order new endlinks... waiting on them...

[shane02pro5]

Anyone know the spring rates?

[Spicy1390]

Hey could you measure your endlinks that they sent you? I am making some new ones, and need to know the length

[daedalus]

ditto.. i need to know the exact parts to make this work. I just put my order in twenty minutes ago. There goes my leap of faith for this community.

[Focus]

For the end links. I used a set of rear ones out front, and they fit perfect.

[MP3skaterNC]

If the endlink problem is anything like that of the JIC's you can use the non-sport suspension end links and everything should mount up properly. I know that is the case with the JIC's, and im just going to assume the same for these coilovers.

[daedalus]

Ok, so you can use the stock rear endlinks for the rear, and then you just need to get another set of rear endlinks for the fronts, correct? I'm assuming they have to be mazdaspeed specific, and I could get them at the dealer?

[Focus]

Ok, so you can use the stock rear endlinks for the rear, and then you just need to get another set of rear endlinks for the fronts, correct? I'm assuming they have to be mazdaspeed specific, and I could get them at the dealer?

That's what we did, except I used my rear ones up front, since I had the Delsing Klunk fix, which came with new endlinks.

[PHSMsp04]

For the few of you who have these put on. How does the car feel now? better, worse? No one have ever posted(that i have found) and just wanted to know.

[KaliCali]

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1481509&postcount=73

[Titanium]

Update on K-sport USA. It is under new ownership and after they clear up the mess that was started by the first owner they will start up business. If anyone is interest I pretty use I can get the contact info for the new ownership if anyone wants it. PM me....

[GHOSTWHISPER]

I would like to purchase these, where would be the best place, does apex still have them?Anyone know

[daedalus]

Update on K-sport USA. It is under new ownership and after they clear up the mess that was started by the first owner they will start up business. If anyone is interest I pretty use I can get the contact info for the new ownership if anyone wants it. PM me....


yea thats what i heard too. If we like the ride on the, Transonic is gonna become a retail distributor for them... He was really impressed with the build quality. And they make a kit for 1G DSMs which are huge in Nebraska, so there is a large market for the product. If you could PM that info I would appreciate it so i can forward it to the owner.

[Spicy1390]

They feel pretty nice. I have had them on for about a month now, and love the ride. They are really stiff though, so if you dont want a real stiff ride then dont get these. I find myself driving a lot of whindy roads and tracks, so I love them. I have some good numbers after race alingment if you guys need them..

[daedalus]

I NEED THEM NOW!!! We have to adjust everything tommorow for final adjustments.

Just as long as treadwear wont be affected...

[Spicy1390]

I will take some measurements tonight. How low do you guys want your car. Mine is like a 2" drop. I will give you the numbers for that and you can decide if you like it. I have been doing a lot of cornering testing so they are pretty good. Also the wear of the tires kinda depends on the alignment you get. I have the front with neg camber and 1/16th tow, and the rear 1/32" towed. This will save the tires a little more then a full race tune, but still helps the car grip. I will have to give them to you tonight or tomm morning. I have all the stuff at home..

[K-Sport]

yes we will warranty any sets purchased in the united states in the past year.

[Spicy1390]

nice... Hey sorry to ll, I kinda forgot about the numbers.. I will do it soon.

[MIT]

Ok, so you can use the stock rear endlinks for the rear, and then you just need to get another set of rear endlinks for the fronts, correct? I'm assuming they have to be mazdaspeed specific, and I could get them at the dealer?

Could you tell me which endlink are you using on the front pair of K-sport? I am going to put it on my P5, will i have the same problem? If so, should I get an AWR rear adjustable endlink for the front pair? I guess the rear pair has no problem with stock endlink, right?

[shane02pro5]

Order the front AWR endlinks for the front. The K-sports are the same as JIC and all the other big names as far as relocating the mounting tab. They were referring to trying to use stock P5 rear endlinks which are actually about 1/2" too short and will eventually break when used up front. I have the NEX Coilovers and have the AWR front endlinks for a perfect fit. AWR endlinks if I remember correctly are actually a little cheaper than ordering P5 rear endlinks.

[daedalus]

^^^ yep.

I used AWRs up front, stockers in back. Bolts up like a charm.

[MIT]

^^^ yep.

I used AWRs up front, stockers in back. Bolts up like a charm.

Where can you buy that AWR front endlink? How much? thx

[AODfan]

The endlink issue is fixed on the ksports they now have a bracket on the body that allows the stock endlink! Pics and prices are available in the link in my sig :D

[MIT]

The endlink issue is fixed on the ksports they now have a bracket on the body that allows the stock endlink! Pics and prices are available in the link in my sig :D

But I have got mine a while ago, not the fixed ones, does the new silver metal bracket on yours can fit on mine? How much for a pair of those bracket?

[AODfan]

But I have got mine a while ago, not the fixed ones, does the new silver metal bracket on yours can fit on mine? How much for a pair of those bracket?

I'll contact Ksport on how much these are seperate! :)

[daedalus]

i belvie they are about the same price as a AWR...

AWR link: http://www.awrracing.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=49