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NJP5Guy
11-08-2004, 08:12 PM
i just visited the wagner website and they are coming out w/ stage 2 cams for the 2.0L. i'd love to see what these are all about. hope they have good gains and arent too expensive. supposed to come out in dec.

LapisBlueProteg
11-08-2004, 09:05 PM
dc motorsports is also supposed to come out with headers!

NJP5Guy
11-08-2004, 09:06 PM
dc motorsports is also supposed to come out with headers!

i think you can buy the header already. its pricey. then again so is the wagner shorty header.

FC3s Boy
11-08-2004, 09:12 PM
i think he is saying it is another part for the proteges that is "in development" which means it may or may not get made

TheJohnny
11-08-2004, 09:33 PM
I'm curious about the Mazdaspeed CAMS.......Stage 2 cams.

Replica
11-08-2004, 09:35 PM
Not interested in Wagner...after all the drama. Hope their cams kick ass and sell good though.

NJP5Guy
11-08-2004, 09:37 PM
Not interested in Wagner...after all the drama. Hope their cams kick ass and sell good though.

what drama is that you are referring to?

trbomp5
11-08-2004, 09:38 PM
i just visited the wagner website and they are coming out w/ stage 2 cams for the 2.0L. i'd love to see what these are all about. hope they have good gains and arent too expensive. supposed to come out in dec.

their F/I and N/A cams usually go for about $450 for the set.

vindication
11-08-2004, 09:39 PM
all that drama was from perfworks mainly. Wagner is a cool guy and really knows his shit.

NJP5Guy
11-08-2004, 09:43 PM
all that drama was from perfworks mainly. Wagner is a cool guy and really knows his shit.

i still dont know what the drama is all about...or what the source is for the drama.

Bass Addict
11-08-2004, 09:51 PM
i still dont know what the drama is all about...or what the source is for the drama.
If it makes you feel any better, I have no clue what its about either.

Replica
11-08-2004, 09:54 PM
Nevermind, anyway, anybody have details on these cams? I hope they're a little more interesting than the MS cams.

anarchistchiken
11-09-2004, 02:19 AM
They should be cheaper that $450. That price was for custom ground cams. If a group buy gets goin, I'm sure the price would drop a bit.

FC3s Boy
11-09-2004, 01:33 PM
are you going to need valve springs and ret. for the stage II

TheJohnny
11-09-2004, 01:43 PM
I wonder what else you would have to upgrade in order to use the cams? I'm really interested in those but I'm curious if I'm going to have to have pistons, rods, ems... well you know what I"m saying.

gino
11-10-2004, 04:01 PM
The important thing is dyno data on the cams with different mods. You can bench race any mod to death and quote any WHP and torque values.
Just give me real numbers compared to a stock engine. Everything else is:bs:

Natey
11-10-2004, 04:13 PM
... supposed to come out in dec.
Of what year? (dance)

NJP5Guy
11-10-2004, 07:22 PM
The important thing is dyno data on the cams with different mods. You can bench race any mod to death and quote any WHP and torque values.
Just give me real numbers compared to a stock engine. Everything else is:bs:

i agree. give me good dyno data.

insanoman2005
11-10-2004, 08:29 PM
sweetness, i'm in for a set

overboost
11-11-2004, 10:33 AM
Just get them directly from the source...

American Cam Grinding
http://americancam.tripod.com/
Company Owner: Joseph Bray
Phone: [909]599-1225
Fax: [909]599-1335

mp3moose
11-11-2004, 11:06 AM
sweetness, i'm in for a set
This is for the FS 2.0. Not the mazda 3.

pdhaudio83
11-11-2004, 11:22 AM
sweetness, i'm in for a set dude, whats the deal ?

you dont even own a "mazda 3" AND you dont live in so cal....

Matthew
11-12-2004, 03:39 AM
Of what year? (dance)
(rofl)

no shit. order them and you might have them by dec 3004.

Matthew
11-12-2004, 03:39 AM
dude, whats the deal ?

you dont even own a "mazda 3" AND you dont live in so cal....
my guess is, he is wagner or perf or some shit plugging.

anarchistchiken
11-12-2004, 02:21 PM
my guess is, he is wagner or perf or some shit plugging.
Why would Nick be plugging this?

Matthew
11-12-2004, 02:23 PM
yea i meant just wagner (hand)...i had a long day yesterday.

Metal MP5
11-12-2004, 02:44 PM
are the mazdaspeed cams worth it ?

Matthew
11-12-2004, 02:50 PM
depends who you talk to and if youre going to pay someone to install them. if you spend all that money to have them installed, id say no.

Metal MP5
11-12-2004, 03:00 PM
my engine will be in pieces this winter anyway ... just wondered if it was a mod worth doing

pdhaudio83
11-12-2004, 03:04 PM
for the 8.3whp ;) i was considering them, but I'll go custom eventually. Not to mention that the i believe- the mazdaspeed intake cam is not made anymore, its hard to come by.

Matthew
11-12-2004, 04:47 PM
if youre not going to pay for labor (or anymore labor i should say), go for it.