IoN 3" Turboback Exhaust Issues/Questions

[Sixmil]

Have had this exhaust for a bit now and love it, but am having some major rattling issues. Had a shop take a look, and they say it is rattling up against the gas tank shield. They said the exhaust didnt look like it was made right, and that it needs to be chopped and routed differently. Anyone out there had these issues? Anyone have a picture of the underside of their car with this exhaust on?

Thanks,

Six

[Focus]

Have had this exhaust for a bit now and love it, but am having some major rattling issues. Had a shop take a look, and they say it is rattling up against the gas tank shield. They said the exhaust didnt look like it was made right, and that it needs to be chopped and routed differently. Anyone out there had these issues? Anyone have a picture of the underside of their car with this exhaust on?

Thanks,

Six
This does not surprise me at all. Look at the following pictures, is that your problem??

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29452
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29453
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29454
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29455

[Sixmil]

Yeah! Mine is not QUITE as close as that, but it is definetely hitting while driving, especially if my take off is not super smooth. BAP BAP BAP BAP, freakin annoying. I just got it up on a jack right now, and I can see that it is defientely rubbing. I took some pics that I will post up later. Did you talk with Jack on this at all?

-Six



This does not surprise me at all. Look at the following pictures, is that your problem??

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29452
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29453
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29454
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29455

[Focus]

Yeah! Mine is not QUITE as close as that, but it is definetely hitting while driving, especially if my take off is not super smooth. BAP BAP BAP BAP, freakin annoying. I just got it up on a jack right now, and I can see that it is defientely rubbing. I took some pics that I will post up later. Did you talk with Jack on this at all?

-Six
Jack and I no longer get along, could not stand all his lying and other bullshit. I had it fixed locally.

[Sixmil]

Can you tell me what was done to fix it? And do you have any post-fix pictures?

Thanks for the help!

Six

[Focus]

Can you tell me what was done to fix it? And do you have any post-fix pictures?

Thanks for the help!

Six
I had to get both of my midpipes lengthened. I say both because I have one with a cat and the other without.

[Sixmil]

Jack gave me a call and gave me some good suggestions. He said that I could add a extra flange to extend the piping a bit...mine isnt as close as yours. The other thing was to try poly hangers so it doesnt move around so much. I might try replacing my rear engine mount as well....the front mount helped me a bit, but there is still some good movement going on.

-Six

[warrier04]

it sure is disappointing to read this thread ...

for all ion hypes up their product to be in r&d so long and this and that, and then to have it not fit (and it sounds like it wasn't just a small issue) ... really a letdown ...

drew.

[jrod1019]

dont feel bad guys -my system was the down pipe back system and it never even fit! sent it back to jack and said he would fix it.-bullshit, he didnt do nothing to it said it would fit! wasted 1050.00$

[Focus]

dont feel bad guys -my system was the down pipe back system and it never even fit! sent it back to jack and said he would fix it.-bullshit, he didnt do nothing to it said it would fit! wasted 1050.00$

And the most upsetting thing is that he is starting new thread for new products, not even an Authorized Vendor, trying to screw more forum mebers.

[mazdaowner123]

Wow. Sounds like iON's "top notch" products = teh suck. I almost sent in a deposit for the t-back last May... so glad it didn't work out.

~brian

[mazdaowner123]

Oh yeah, and he says each of the systems is test fitted and that's why it takes so long...

[Focus]

Oh yeah, and he says each of the systems is test fitted and that's why it takes so long...

Bullshit, he means they are all mounted on a jig, and from what I see now, everyone is having the same fitment issues.

Let me tell you what I saw on my exhaust. The way they are assembled.

He has some form of jig or whoever makes it for jack does. They put the stainless on, then MIG spot weld, right MIG not TIG. Then they take it off and TIG weld it on a bench.

So R&D and all this bullshit we have been fed from Jack is all fabrications in his head.

But I have to say that the funniest one I heard in all this " we cannot weld these past few days because it is too humid and the welds will become porous"

Bah Bah Bullshit!!!!

[INGREXCO]

" we cannot weld these past few days because it is too humid and the welds will become porous"gee i wonder where you could make an exhaust system where there is no humidity

[hayula]

can't you die from an explosion with the pipe touching the tank like that?

[Focus]

can't you die from an explosion with the pipe touching the tank like that?
Actually look at tis picture again:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29455

It's touching the floor pan luckily ** I guess ** and not the gas tank.

[122 Vega]

Good 'ol Ion! Maybe now Jack will no longer be able to sell stuff on this site considering he is NOT AN AUTHORIZED VENDOR. Heck, I have to admit I am amazed that he has left the GHL threads alone. He rips people off and makes them wait too long for product that they prepaid for. Hell, my $300 CS Exhaust fits better than that!

Hopefully the Mods will finally do something about this since there are more negative posts about Ion than positive ones.

Britt

[mazdaowner123]

^exactly. I'm wondering how long it will take the mods to do something about this...

~brian

[Focus]

Admins should know about this as well.



^exactly. I'm wondering how long it will take the mods to do something about this...

~brian

[Sixmil]

Doesnt look like fixing the rubbing issues will be too much of a issue, though I still have to work on the rattling (which bugs me the most). I just ordered the kartboy hangars, so hopefully that will help with the play a bit. I also havent replaced the rear mount yet, so I might do that in the future as well....still way too much movement in the engine bay.

-Six

[Sixmil]

Thanks to the guys at SPD Racing, my exhaust has been fixed...Better. Stronger. Faster! :)

Ill get some pictures up later, but they had to cut the exhaust in 5 places, put in a flex joint, and reroll the muffler as it had a big crack in it! For those of you with the ION turbobacks, you might want to inspect your exhaust. Our engine moves alot, and the exhaust moves right along with it. Mine was rubbing on the floor well, and a few other places...but the crack was the worse part...it was on the top so it couldnt be seen until it was taken off. Buyer beware! Once I get some pictures Ill be doing a vendor review for IoN.

So now I have a really expensive exhaust, but its now how it should have been. No more rattling and it sounds great.

-Six

[I'm Allen]

Maybe I'm just the lucky one but I don't have any problems with mine. Hopefully it'll stay that way too.

Allen-

[Sixmil]

Do you have any pictures of your exhaust, especially of where it makes the bend in the middle of the car?

-Six


Maybe I'm just the lucky one but I don't have any problems with mine. Hopefully it'll stay that way too.

Allen-

[FC3s Boy]

glad you like it steve, how's the BOV sound

[jrodhotrod]

Mine has been perfect too. But I think I'll be having SPD put the flex joint in just to be safe. I already had one of the hangers come loose because of the kartboy hangers, but have had that fixed by having the hangers triangulated (the way it should have been done).

[itz_alan]

Good 'ol Ion! Maybe now Jack will no longer be able to sell stuff on this site considering he is NOT AN AUTHORIZED VENDOR. Heck, I have to admit I am amazed that he has left the GHL threads alone. He rips people off and makes them wait too long for product that they prepaid for. Hell, my $300 CS Exhaust fits better than that!

Hopefully the Mods will finally do something about this since there are more negative posts about Ion than positive ones.

Britt
i have the cs exhaust also. i get a rattle noise just too, but its from the exhaust hitting the crossbar near the downpipe. im not sure if you have this same problem but i was just wondering if you had it fixed and if so, how?
thanks
-alan

[Focus]

Since I had mine repaired It works well also. I shouldn't have to pay to get an exhasut repaired that I allreay paid $2000 CDN for.

[mspdfreak]

Shit, I'm sorry to hear about this. I, too, almost plunked down $1400 for the t-back. Thank God I never did!!

[Sixmil]

Sounds great! No more %&#%&#&# turkey! Setting up the EBC today to get my 3 psi back.

-Six


glad you like it steve, how's the BOV sound

[Sixmil]

Do you have a pic of what you did with the hangars? I have the kartboys, but havent installed them yet.

Thanks,

Six


Mine has been perfect too. But I think I'll be having SPD put the flex joint in just to be safe. I already had one of the hangers come loose because of the kartboy hangers, but have had that fixed by having the hangers triangulated (the way it should have been done).

[jrodhotrod]

haven't taken a picture yet. There are some pics of what can be done in a thread I posted: http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70682&highlight=ion+kart+boy

Any exhaust shop should be able to do it, but basically it involved adding a support rod to the hanger, and welding it to the muffler in a different direction from the existing hanger.

[122 Vega]

i have the cs exhaust also. i get a rattle noise just too, but its from the exhaust hitting the crossbar near the downpipe. im not sure if you have this same problem but i was just wondering if you had it fixed and if so, how?
thanks
-alan
I finally got under the car today and loosened all the joints and moved it around until it clears everything. It was rubbing at the back of the front heat shield.

Britt

[03BlkMicaSPD]

damn, my homemade exhaust doesnt have this many issues... Thats funny:)

[Larone]

Did anyone finally get pics up with the changes they made to the exhaust so it stopped rubbing and rattling? I'm thinking of getting the t-back but now I'm iffy.

[Focus]

Did anyone finally get pics up with the changes they made to the exhaust so it stopped rubbing and rattling? I'm thinking of getting the t-back but now I'm iffy.
Wait until ION gets their Vendor Status Back before ordering

[Swerny]

buy GHL.

[Focus]

buy GHL.
Or that!!

[Sixmil]

Here are the pictures of my ION exhaust before and after the modifications:


http://forums.sixmillion.com/exhaust/Old/


http://forums.sixmillion.com/exhaust/New/


I probably have the most expensive exhaust on the boards now.. :(


-Six

[Focus]

I probably have the most expensive exhaust on the boards now.. :(


-Six
You and me both.

[JMUSpeed]

When i first start the car my exhaust is making alot of noise like right below the shifter or in that area. Did any of yall with the Ion Exhaust have this problem and do you have any idea what it could be because it doesnt do it when the exhaust warms up.

[Focus]

When i first start the car my exhaust is making alot of noise like right below the shifter or in that area. Did any of yall with the Ion Exhaust have this problem and do you have any idea what it could be because it doesnt do it when the exhaust warms up.

Did you use spacers for the heat shield ?

[JMUSpeed]

Which heatshield are you talking about. I just used all the stuff that came with the exhaust. Would something like that cause it to make a sound. It sounds like it is leaking but then when the car gets warm it doesnt do it anymore?

[Focus]

Which heatshield are you talking about. I just used all the stuff that came with the exhaust. Would something like that cause it to make a sound. It sounds like it is leaking but then when the car gets warm it doesnt do it anymore?

You have to use the two spacers for the heatshield under the tunnel or else it vibrates it and makes a metal type sound.

[JMUSpeed]

OK i will check that out and see if maybe that is it but i was also wandering if this would cause the noise to happen only when the car is cold because once the car warms up it stops. Sorry for all the questions.