iNJECTOR CLEANER

[mazdaspeed75]

Blk zoom zoom told me about this . Anyone else use this Also ther are several ways to get to the injectors which way would you go. Thanks guys .

[DSMConvert]

seafoam is great stuff...i put it directly into the throttle body, though it uleashes a 007 smoke cloud like you wouldnt believe....

[YP5 Toronto]

I used it on my civic...it had 170000kms on it...once I used this stuff....the car was a totally different car.

I poured this stuff through one of the available...ports in the intake manifold.

[Rism]

where do you poor is on a protege?

[peepsalot]

Available ports in the inake manifold? Which ones would those be?

[YP5 Toronto]

same idea....get the car up to a higher rpm...say 2500 rpms....you could pull off the vacume line going to the Cruise control....and slowly feed this stuff directly to the intake manifold.

[peepsalot]

Cruise control... LMAO. That's a good one.

*mumble mumble* Stupid MSP's

[YP5 Toronto]

you actually wouldn't even need to "pour" this stuff....once you get the rpms up...it will SUCK it out of the bottle (assuming you are using a vacume line).

[BlkZoomZoom]

Take the vacuum hose off the pcv (the one that splits and goes to two different intake runners). That is an extremely powerful vacuum source, be careful not to totally submerge the tube into the seafoam as you may stall the car.

Follow the directions, and after you let set for 5mins soaking. Start it up and let idle for a min. or so, then rev to 3k, let idle, rev, idle etc. Do not get on it right after the cleaning though because it probably will misfire at upper rpm and you guys don't need that.

[Wiggles422]

Stupid question... how does it clean the injectors by putting it into the intake manifold? Seems like it would barely touch the injectors themselves. The injector cleaner stuff I used way back when went in the gas tank.

[BlkZoomZoom]

Yeah seafoam you can dump in your tank too....and in your oil....But your right, this is considered a top engine clean. It also cleans the tips of the injectors.

[Rism]

on the company website it says put 1/3 in your manifold, 1/3 in your oil, and 1/3 in your gas tank.

[mazdaspeed75]

Take the vacuum hose off the pcv (the one that splits and goes to two different intake runners). That is an extremely powerful vacuum source, be careful not to totally submerge the tube into the seafoam as you may stall the car.

Follow the directions, and after you let set for 5mins soaking. Start it up and let idle for a min. or so, then rev to 3k, let idle, rev, idle etc. Do not get on it right after the cleaning though because it probably will misfire at upper rpm and you guys don't need that. hey you said you did this every 2000 or 3000 miles right Thanks for the info

[DSMConvert]

err if you're going to pour it into your gas tank be sure you dont have a full tank, this will dilute it a little too much...usually i'll dump a full bottle into about 5gallons of gas....

[BlkZoomZoom]

I do it every 3 weeks.....however I am anal.

[Wiggles422]

I do it every 3 weeks.....however I am anal.

Thru the manifold or gas tank?
Also you mentioned putting it in the oil. What does that do/clean?

[Puckpimp71]

Just finished running this through my PCV and gas tank. It's good stuff and this is the first time I've used it in my MSP. I really wouldn't recommend using anything (even Lucas) in the oil, because unless it's actually oil it's going to displace the oil that's lubricating your car... Basically it'll dilute it. If you want to clean the oil system, I think it's best to put it in a half hour before you change your oil and let it run for 5-10 minutes, then let your car cool down a bit. Immediately before you change your oil run it for 5 more minutes, then change the oil. That's my opinion, but it's based on many lost hours at www.bobistheoilguy.com

[DSMConvert]

yea warmning your fluids up is generally a good idea, as it will "thin out" the oil and allow for a faster and cleaner drain...man but I dont know if i would do it every 3k on a relatively new car...if you're using good high octane gas you shouldnt have gummed up injectors...

[Puckpimp71]

yea warmning your fluids up is generally a good idea, as it will "thin out" the oil and allow for a faster and cleaner drain...man but I dont know if i would do it every 3k on a relatively new car...if you're using good high octane gas you shouldnt have gummed up injectors...
(mswerd) I think when it comes to these products it's easy to over do it, especially with how fun it is to watch the smoke from your tailpipe fill up the neighborhood. For Sea Foam or Gunk in the oil I'd suggest no more than every 12,000mi and for our injectors I think every 9,000 is good for stock or close to stock people...

[Rich24km]

i used this today. I put it in. Turned the car off. Let it sit for 5 min, and cranked the car up. Smoked for a minute and then stopped. We'll see how it did.

[Puckpimp71]

Put it in where?

[peepsalot]

Put it in the bunghole. (upbum)

[Puckpimp71]

Woohoo

[Rich24km]

put it in your vac line that runs off the pcv valve.

[hellcat]

I also used a whole bottle of the stuff in through the cruise controll vacuum line. My car smoked a lot and tried to bog down a few times. I only put in a little at a time and reved my car to about 3 grand and smoked up my whole street. The CEL came on, probably because the car was missing a little while I was running this stuff through. It settled out and the CEL went off a little later. The car seems to run a little smoother. I have been running high ocatane gas for the last 9K miles or so. but the previous 40K were all low octane miles. This is why I decided to give this product a try. I recommend it. It's less than six dollars here.

[Saban]

NOOB WARNING

I just added this stuff to my intake manifold through my PCV hose, but the weird thing was that I could not find the PCV at first at all. I looked at over the engine, even on the emissions sticker thing, and then I did a search and found out that the PCV is under the plastic engine cover on the MSP. I know Noob mistake


So....If anybody is a noob, like me, doing this and has a MSP make sure you take over the plastic engine cover or you so you can get to the PCV valve.

[Saban]

I also used a whole bottle of the stuff in through the cruise controll vacuum line. My car smoked a lot and tried to bog down a few times. I only put in a little at a time and reved my car to about 3 grand and smoked up my whole street. The CEL came on, probably because the car was missing a little while I was running this stuff through. It settled out and the CEL went off a little later. The car seems to run a little smoother. I have been running high ocatane gas for the last 9K miles or so. but the previous 40K were all low octane miles. This is why I decided to give this product a try. I recommend it. It's less than six dollars here.


My check engine light came on to during the injector cleaning. How many miles did you go before it turned its self off. I have gone about 15 miles since the injector cleaning and its still on. Did you eventually reset the ECU?

[P5 Rally]

actually....stalling the car is a good thing. U let the vacuum source suck the shit out of the liquid...then let it stall. let the motor sit for about 10 mins and start er up. It might be hard but it will work. This step will help clean the combustion chamber. I've been to a few seminars about these things when i used to work for Canadian tire/Part source....canadian version of autozone/pep boys

[Saban]

My check engine light came on to during the injector cleaning. How many miles did you go before it turned its self off. I have gone about 15 miles since the injector cleaning and its still on. Did you eventually reset the ECU?

Never mind (yippy) Car fixed itself (check engine went off) last night when I went out. (headbang)

[Crock]

Doesn't the "Welcome to mazdaspeed" insert on the visor say never to use injector cleaner?

[Puckpimp71]

Pretty sure it only warns against fuel additives... which I'm not a big fan of anyway.

[MSPinVA]

Yeah, but fuel injector cleaner is totally different. I just had my dealership do mine (they used the stuff in the parts shop, the name escapes me right now but its good shit) at 12K miles. Power delivery smoothed out, car drives much better now. Its probably because the car had only been driven 53 miles the whole year it was sitting on the lot before I bought it. All in all, good thing to do and I highly reccomend it every 4-5 oil changes.

[mspdfreak]

Where can you get this stuff?

[BlkZoomZoom]

any autostore.

[Saban]

Where can you get this stuff?

I got it at Autozone.

[Dr.Sound]

ok, anyone got a pic of PCV line that has to be submerged??
help a brotha out.

[Saban]

ok, anyone got a pic of PCV line that has to be submerged??
help a brotha out.


No pic but I'll try and give you an idea.

1)Take off the plastic engine cover, at the back on the valve cover(near the intake mani) is the pcv valve sticking out.

2) There is a vaccum line coming out of the PCV valve that connects to a "T".

I took off one of the vaccum lines coming off the "T", and submerged little by little into the can. (Don't submerged the whole line in there, there is enough suction to suck the fuel injector cleaner out)

Hope that helps

[Dr.Sound]

awesome, yes it does, thanks!

[goku4658]

Why not just put in the gas tank?

[Dr.Sound]

i guess i'll put half in tank and half into the intake mani.

[goku4658]

I'm alil intimidated by putting it through the intake manifodl. Guess I'm chicken.

[Saban]

i guess i'll put half in tank and half into the intake mani.

That's what I did (2thumbs)

[Dr.Sound]

did u notice any difference?

[Saban]

Not really, but I some black stuff came out my exhaust pipe when I added the injector cleaner via the PCV vaccum line, so.... It cleaned something.

Maybe BlkZoomZoom can tell you more...

[BlkZoomZoom]

I can post a pic of how clean the tops of my pistons were on my old motor...

[Puckpimp71]

I felt a difference the first time I did it at 15,000 miles. I did it again at 18,000 and didn't notice anything, but I suppose it's better that there was no difference after only 3000 miles.

[pb4ugoout]

i've been told that injector cleaner can gum up your O2 sensors. any truth to this? wouldn't it be best to remove the injectors and soak the nozzles in the cleaner? i've never used anything like this in any car because of the O2 comment i heard about. I also heard that O2 sensor cleaner will gum up your fuel injectors so you are screwed no matter what you do. i bought some Tolulene (it's like pure octane) from an industrial paint suppy and i just put about a gallon of it into my tank once a month with my regular 95 octane. bumps the octane up to around 100 or so. I figure thats enough to clean them out once a month. any truth to this? i just rolled 20k miles and i've never actually "cleaned" my injectors with anything. just curious i guess....

[mspdfreak]

Hmm, if you have access to a sonic parts cleaner you could put the injectors in a cleaning solution for awhile. My dad used to have a small one that seemed to work quite well. It was about the the size of a water-pik.

[BlkZoomZoom]

Again...this is more effective as a top engine clean than a fuel injector cleaner. This keeps the carbon build-up to a min. so you dont create hot spots for detonation to occur.

[peepsalot]

Seems like going through the pcv won't get evenly into all pistons. Do you do each side for a while?

[BlkZoomZoom]

I leave the tee fitting connected. The pcv has channels inside the intake manifold. I wouldn't know how to get it more evenly distributed.

[peepsalot]

I just put some in my gas tank, and I'm wondering if it lowers octane levels while it's in there. Should I try to stay out of boost for the rest of the tank?

[BlkZoomZoom]

I just put some in my gas tank, and I'm wondering if it lowers octane levels while it's in there. Should I try to stay out of boost for the rest of the tank?

you worry too much.

[mazpro]

I'll give this a try this weekend, but I got no Idea where to put it on in the 1.6, anyone got any Idea? I guess I should use it after the 70,000 miles I got.

[Puckpimp71]

You can either dump it in the TB slowly or suck it up in a vacuum hose.

[31R]

Kinda lost here, do i let the PVC suck in the seafoam to the head, or one of the 2 lines running of the "T"?

[goku4658]

i really need to learn how to do this, now that i have *gulp* 45,000 miles

[Wiggles422]

the way i did it, was by taking off the brake booster line (the end at the brake booster). its not exactly easy that way because the car tries to stall out b/c of the massive vacuum leak. but if you keep your thumb on the end of the line and use a small dixie cup or something to hold the sea foam in, it's not too bad.

[BOOSTR]

I just pour it in the PCV vacuum tube after driving around for a while. I let it sit for 5 minutes and then start the car. I then let it idle and rev it a few times and then go for a short drive. This stuff makes the car feel 100% smoother. With our pig rich MSP's, I don't see how it can hurt the car to do it at every oil change. They also make it in a spray form that you can spray into your throttle body. My throttle body always looks clean when I pull on the hose, so I haven't tried that.

Its the best $5 that I have spent for the car! Try some today if you never used it. 1/3 of the bottle works just fine, no need to dump 16 ozs in the car.

[SkinnyJoint]

ok bump

and its 2k6 so maybe we could get a picture of exactly where i want to suck some seafoam out of the can into. thanks

[Bijou-MP5]

me too...I'm still waiting for pictures...lol

[SkinnyJoint]

bump

[SNike05]

I want to do this before I take my car out this season. I would like to see pictures as well. People who have done it please post pics of where you poured the seafoam.

[SNike05]

Alright I haven't done it yet but from what I've read the picture I just took should be the best place to let the seafoam get sucked from. To get the seafoam evenly distributed throughout the manifold the the T connection should be left intact and only the PCV valve (small black L shaped plastic piece) should be removed from the tubing.

It seems that the vaccum tube is very short so I will be adding additional tubing which I will drop into the seafoam can.

[Notorious_V.I.C]

I'll be buying two bottles of this if it is $5. one for the mani and the gas tank

[orng1]

I'll be buying two bottles of this if it is $5. one for the mani and the gas tank
You'll be fine with one, you'd be surprised what one can will do. The smoke screen will cover your whole street. Becareful to do this in a well ventilated area and just use one bottle. If you still don't notice a change after one you just might not notice it at all. Good luck guys.

Orng1/Bob