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eting_pro5
10-03-2004, 10:31 AM
What does everyone think? I'm not so sure how US consumers will react to it, but it probably has a lot going for it with better economy, handling and price than a typical minivan. It's also the perfect size for being functional without being absurbly huge. I think it'll do decent. And I hope it does awesome.

ZoomZoomH
10-03-2004, 11:07 AM
a sensible alternative to a compact SUV that actually can seat 3 rows of people comfortably, i say go for it!

seanmcsean
10-03-2004, 10:11 PM
what exactly is it supposed to compete with.. the forrester and alike cars?

ZoomZoomH
10-03-2004, 10:22 PM
can a Forester seat 6 people in 3 rows like a mini-minivan?

AFAIK, there are no current vehicles that compete directly with the Mazda5, Mazda is trying something new, kinda like how they reintroduced the 2 seat roadster back in 1989 with the Miata and created the '4 door sports car' in the RX-8

Mazda admits that this will be an experiment in North America, we'll see how it goes.

protegeV
10-03-2004, 11:59 PM
Soccer Mom's everywhere will LOVE it :D

VPower
10-04-2004, 12:02 PM
I think it's going to be a BIG hit here in (canada)

I think Canadians arent really in the BIG suv/van

and it's Mazda..just watch the success the P5 and the Mazda3 here in Montreal.. it's nice! (rei)

Red Baron
01-12-2005, 11:03 AM
I think it's going to be a BIG hit here in (canada)

I think Canadians arent really in the BIG suv/van

and it's Mazda..just watch the success the P5 and the Mazda3 here in Montreal.. it's nice! (rei)

I second that. There are so many P5's and 3's here it's unbelievable.

VPower : do you read La Presse? Car journalist's predict an instant success.

VPower
01-12-2005, 12:25 PM
I second that. There are so many P5's and 3's here it's unbelievable.

VPower : do you read La Presse? Car journalist's predict an instant success.

I didnt see the article in La Presse... But as you can see, Canadian and American market are very different.

Foolish
01-13-2005, 07:54 PM
I like it a lot. I think it's a great idea. If we lose our minds after having this kid, and decide to have a second one, I may need to move up to a larger vehicle, and this seems like a perfect option to me. Lots of room, without being huge, available in a stick, and probably mod-able using Mazda3 parts!

That being said, it will probably bomb terribly here, because my opinions on cars don't seem to fit those of the general U.S. populace. I think SUV's are mostly stupid. There are people for whom they (SUV's) make sense, but if only the people who needed them had them, the sales figures would be about 1/20 of what they've been for the last ten years.

It seems the U.S. market just doesn't want flexible, useful, fuel-efficient vehicles. I guess we'll see.

Iggy
01-13-2005, 11:25 PM
I didn't know it was coming with a stick for the US market.

Antoine
01-14-2005, 02:30 AM
There is a chance it might strike a niche in the U.S. market...It seems people are more "Fuel Efficient" conscious and SUV's are played out (I hope)...plus the sport/family factor...Hmmmm

Mikey444
01-14-2005, 12:01 PM
I cant wait to see it in the showrooms here.

eting_pro5
01-14-2005, 03:02 PM
Damn, i didn't realize the stick was an option...I'm wanna be the first Hiboost/MAM boosted Mazda5! True sleeper.

rookie
01-22-2005, 12:53 AM
I definitely dig it. Will have to see it in person of course but:

I don't want an SUV. Mazda 6 is cool, but I'm over 6' and just can't sit in the back unless it's a wagon. But the wagon gets poor MPG per what people say...

With a second baby on the way - this might just be what we need, trade in the P5 that the wife drives... we'll see. P5 is awesome but there just is not that much space for all the baby junk + stroller + shopping bags back there...

Plus - airbags all around + ABS standard? FINALLY someone gets it!! Good job MAZDA!

cws2003
02-10-2005, 11:17 AM
The Mazda5 is just what I want. A big 4 cylindar engine (good fuel economy) seats 6 and it comes loaded. I drive long distances to work but I also go on vacation frequently with friends and need room for everyone/thing. This is perfect for me. Just wish it had all-wheel drive like my Rav4. Can't wait to buy it next year when my cars are paid off!!

psychoart
02-20-2005, 09:20 PM
Soccer Mom's everywhere will LOVE it :D

Although I know you meant it the good way, but I also think that it's kind of offensive.

If I love it, am I a "soccer mom" as well. I'm a man by the way. (attn)

Secondly, I'm not sure that a "soccer mom" will really appreciate the Mazda5 as much as a real car enthusiast does. A "soccer mom," I believe, will hit the Sienna or Odyssey, although not bad choices as well. But for someone who is looking for a more compact car with better driving feel and little more mpg, and little more aggressive look will need more than a regular "soccer mom" to appreciate it. Hence, not much "soccer mom" in the US will really appreciate the Mazda5, although a very very fine car. As you know it, the US public (i.e. majority) is very latent in mentality, always thinking that "bigger is better." (usa)

Mazda3ofKent
02-23-2005, 01:32 AM
Damn, i didn't realize the stick was an option...I'm wanna be the first Hiboost/MAM boosted Mazda5! True sleeper. (cool)
thats just what i was thinking

Mazda3ofKent
02-23-2005, 01:47 AM
I like it a lot. I think it's a great idea. If we lose our minds after having this kid, and decide to have a second one, I may need to move up to a larger vehicle, and this seems like a perfect option to me. Lots of room, without being huge, available in a stick, and probably mod-able using Mazda3 parts!

That being said, it will probably bomb terribly here, because my opinions on cars don't seem to fit those of the general U.S. populace. I think SUV's are mostly stupid. There are people for whom they (SUV's) make sense, but if only the people who needed them had them, the sales figures would be about 1/20 of what they've been for the last ten years.

It seems the U.S. market just doesn't want flexible, useful, fuel-efficient vehicles. I guess we'll see.

This is my educated guess whats: Mazda is trying to replicate the sucess of the Honda element, PT Crusier, both thease cars were originaly targted at first time car buyer, but were a huge hit with "soccer moms" cuase they were "cool" and had versatlty. Mazda also banking on the high gas prices creating the need for a supply of fuel efficiant peole movers (supply creats demand) . Also most male dont want to drive a minivan period, but most male still are the primary buyer of 98% of them, it low fule econmey and can carry kids thats an easey sell to somone wife, its should do well

RobMP5
02-23-2005, 02:30 PM
This is my educated guess whats: Mazda is trying to replicate the sucess of the Honda element, PT Crusier, both thease cars were originaly targted at first time car buyer, but were a huge hit with "soccer moms" cuase they were "cool" and had versatlty. Mazda also banking on the high gas prices creating the need for a supply of fuel efficiant peole movers (supply creats demand) . Also most male dont want to drive a minivan period, but most male still are the primary buyer of 98% of them, it low fule econmey and can carry kids thats an easey sell to somone wife, its should do well

The only reason I would buy one of these for cargo space w/ a 5 spd/ good handling...we'll have to see how it does in person

starlightmica
03-02-2005, 09:25 PM
After learning more about the Mazda5, I'm rather disappointed in the details. No DSC for the US market initially, and relatively poor fuel economy as a result of tall gearing to move those 3333lbs at a zoom-zoom pace.

More info at: mazda5club.com

rookie
03-02-2005, 11:36 PM
After learning more about the Mazda5, I'm rather disappointed in the details. No DSC for the US market initially, and relatively poor fuel economy as a result of tall gearing to move those 3333lbs at a zoom-zoom pace.

More info at: mazda5club.com

Thats what I am afraid of - the MPG outa that thing. It really sucks that there is just a 4sp Auto, thats gonna suck - literally!

psychoart
03-04-2005, 06:16 AM
Thats what I am afraid of - the MPG outa that thing. It really sucks that there is just a 4sp Auto, thats gonna suck - literally!

I've thought seriously about this car lately, Mazda5. To me, this car will have to be fully loaded (i.e. DVD player, and MP3). My guess is that it will reach in the $23k. The problem is that for that kind of money, it reaches the territories of the upcoming A3 and the Prius with some extra options. Both competitors (i.e. A3 and Prius) are much different cars, but the most important part is HID. Yes!!! The Mazda5 may be great with 6 seats, but quite frankly, the car is a 4 seats + 2 little seats (I think). That's hard to swallow without the 6+1 configuration in NA, without HID, and without power slider doors!

Hence, if Mazda brings the Mazda5 as it is anticipated right now, I don't see much people buying it in the States. (attn)

rxlogic
03-04-2005, 08:17 PM
The Mazda5 may be great with 6 seats, but quite frankly, the car is a 4 seats + 2 little seats (I think). (attn)

The key for me is that the four seats will accomodate four adults comfortably -- if you slide the middle seats back (making the third row cargo space). I have two teenage children and right now our biggest car is a PT Cruiser. The back seat of the PT just doesn't cut it on long trips.

rookie
03-05-2005, 12:17 AM
Hmmm...

From: http://www.mpvclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9000

Fuel Economy: City/Hwy
5Speed M/T: 21/28mpg
4Speed A/T: 20/26 mpg

And that is EPA numbers (usually higher than real life) - meaning - this thing could drink as much as a 6 wagon which is a V6. If that will be true - I sure will not be getting one.

psychoart
03-05-2005, 08:19 AM
Let's just take a baby seat, for example, and place it in the Mazda5. Where would it go? Certainly not in the front seat. The third row seat, I believe, will not fit the baby seat either. Hence, the best convenient place will be the second row seat where an adult can sit next to the baby. That makes the Mazda5 only 2 seats left for adult passenger, and 1 for the driver. That's almost pointless. A regular 5 seat car can provide 3 seat for adults with a baby seat in the back. The regular 6 configuration is almost pointless if you have to carry some friends on some very rare and cherishable occasion!

The 6+1 would have make more sense, but it's not coming. And without option such as HID and/or power slide doors, this car won't sell as much as anticipated. A regular 5 seat such as Prius or A3 will be a better deal, or bigger family will make more sense. One is a Toyota with Hybrid technology that can save you gas while having the most minimum required features nowadays (e.g. HID, tire pressure monitoring system, good sound system,...) and be reliable. The other one is an Audi that is just a flashy, trendy, and sporty car.

To really attract some interested buyers, some options must be available to steal some sale from other makers. (group)

Furthermore, if the Mazda5 doesn't have HID as option, Mazda is only telling their customers that if they want HID go buy a Mazda3. Hence, that's why I have refered previously that the Prius and the A3 are a Mazda5 alternative since the 6 seat just don't cut it by itself with manual sliding doors. (chair)