silver funnel blown out of pipe twice

[regdent]

what should i do i pushed the silver funnel thing back in with my hand about a month ago, and today it come out again. i just wondered if anyone else has had this problem and what should i do to fix it?


Thanks in advance

[Gbourdon]

I dont know silver funnel

[regdent]

sorry i dont know cars, i think its the dump valve

[Gbourdon]

Maybe someone else will know. Can you give a descriptipon of where it is located?

[mp5jeff]

silver funnel thing, lol...have a pic?

[Stormtrooper77]

Yes, where is it?

[regdent]

Maybe someone else will know. Can you give a descriptipon of where it is located?

i have not long bought the car, so i am unsure what mods the person before did.

its towards the back right of the engine, i have a brace bar and it sits just under that.

it looks like a silver horn

[RyanJayG]

you know!!! that thing, by the other thing... but its smaller than that other thingie... oh, and silver too...

:D

[Stormtrooper77]

I would say it's an aftermarket blow-off/bypass valve, but that's not where it's usually located. Maybe it's just a horn after all? Any difference in performance?

[Gbourdon]

Hmmm. Yeah it could be a blow off valve but its in a weird spot then. Take a picture. Even a shitty picture will help.

How well can you draw in MSPaint? (lol2)

[regdent]

2 pictures

[NeverSober]

IM thinking BOV it looks like its attached to the IC piping....


Chris

[regdent]

so twice the silver part has blown completly off the pipe.

and makes the car stall at idle speed

[low_psi]

yea, that's an aftermarket blow off valve that is mounted to the stock plastic piping... very ghetto. I would buy aftermarket hardpipes(metal) asap, cause that is not going to work.

[flat_black]

Yep, that's a BOV if I've seen one; From the factory, I beleive they're glued/epoxied in, so you could try epoxying it back in, or, if there's enough of a lip (Which I don't think there is, actually), you could clamp it down with a hose clamp. Guess the way it's working now makes it more of a pop off valve, huh? =)

Sorry, bad joke. ;)

[DaKidd]

Well it looks like a BOV... Kinda... But mounted on the plastic pipes? Never seen that b4. If it is a BOV, then it should be mounted on a hard pipe at least. Is it just the horn that pops off of the BOV (if that is what it is) body, or does the whole thing come off of the plastic lower IC pipe? And one other thing, If that is what it is, and u r not the only owner, then u should go to ur local pro-shop, or a friend that knows cars, and let them look over the whole car!!! Cause that looks like a half ass hack job to me, and there is no telling what other boo boos the car is hiding that may become a problem in the future.

[DaKidd]

Yep, that's a BOV if I've seen one; From the factory, I beleive they're glued/epoxied in, so you could try epoxying it back in, or, if there's enough of a lip (Which I don't think there is, actually), you could clamp it down with a hose clamp. Guess the way it's working now makes it more of a pop off valve, huh? =)

Sorry, bad joke. ;)
From the factory? U sure? cause I never seen a msp with a setup like that until now!

[orangezoom]

If that goes into that plastic pipe whoever did that should have there head examined

[flat_black]

The stock BOV is a Bosch style push-in valve, just like many Volvo's, Saab's, VW's, and so on use... This is just a standard replacement for that style, is all. =) Typically, the other manufacturers attach them with clamps in some way, though; The MSP just has it glued in, which seems kinda wrong to me.

[flat_black]

DaKid: Pardon me, that was my fault. I fragmented the sentence, and it made it sort of confusing. =) What I meant to say was, in synopsis 'That's definitly a blow off valve' and 'From the factory, the bypass valve is glued/epoxied in'. Hope that clarifies what I stated. Hehe.

[DaKidd]

If that goes into that plastic pipe whoever did that should have there head examined

(werd)

[mp5jeff]

what kind of BOV is that, where is the vac line going into it

[regdent]

ok thanks for the bad news guys

now i have to find a performance car shop and i will get the hard pipes as stated

[vodapas77]

All you really need is one pipe. The IC to TB pipe. Then they can just weld a fitting for the BOV to attach to.

Man, talk about ghetto. Find the guy you bought it off of and smack him.

[Mike R]

Just do a search on this site, I doubt many companies make them that aren't already here...

[DaKidd]

DaKid: Pardon me, that was my fault. I fragmented the sentence, and it made it sort of confusing. =) What I meant to say was, in synopsis 'That's definitly a blow off valve' and 'From the factory, the bypass valve is glued/epoxied in'. Hope that clarifies what I stated. Hehe.

Ahh, now I understand ya. Back on the same page now!

[regdent]

All you really need is one pipe. The IC to TB pipe. Then they can just weld a fitting for the BOV to attach to.

Man, talk about ghetto. Find the guy you bought it off of and smack him.

i actually bought it from a mitsibishi dealer

[DaKidd]

i actually bought it from a mitsibishi dealer
Sabotage... Those bastards!

[mp5jeff]

the dealership installed this?

[Wiggles422]

Hmm... which one of you traitors did this to your car and traded it in for an evo?!!

[Prodigy]

I bet the guy sold it to the mitsu dealer because he couldn't figure how to fix it (yet alone mod it in the first place) so he traded it in.

[tekkie]

thats by far the biggest ghetto job I have ever seen for a bpv (hand)

[regdent]

after some research i am going to fix the problem, i was just wondering if the bov which is on there now is any good, or should i buy a better one? would it make any difference?

[DSMConvert]

looks to me to be an rfl...common dsm bov, doesnt recirc...just get hardpipes, there are several of us on here who sell them....or if you're on a budget you could buy just the tb to ic pipe to have that welded to...def a very very very ghetto job, and i would of taken it back to mitsu and demanded it be fixed, Im almost positive that violated the buyer/seller contract of a dealership. Dealerships are required to put a car back to stock before selling it(atleast its the law in FL and OH). GF's father owns a few dealerships(Chevy, Caddy, & Pontiac) so I checked with him...

[MSPinVA]

Yeppers, that looks like a TurboXS RFL blow off valve. And indeed, the person who tried to put that on the stock pipe in that location needs to have his/her head examined.

[regdent]

i talked to the dealer they said they would remove it and put a standard pipe back on, i am just gonna get the proper pipes fitted. i didnt know if i shoiuld keep that bov or buy another one while i am getting this done.

[TX Speed Demon]

You don't NEED the current BOV, nor a new one. All you NEED is a new Intercooler>throttlebody pipe. You can see the current by pass valve is on there and re routed to the injen. Looks like this person did one of the dual BOV BPV set ups on his stock pipes. Your stalling out because the seal where the new BOV is connected has come loose. So now you've got a huge vacume leak. Once you get a new pipe the leak will be gone and your car will run fine.

If money is your concern just get the one pipe and be done with it. If you want to you can get all hardpipes and keep this BOV (welding it onto the new pipe and removing the stock By Pass Valve). However you will not be able to recirculate unless you keep the stock BPV in place and weld this BOV onto the new pipe.

Or you could get a dual BOV/BPV valve that vents some air and recirculates some back into the system. That way you get some sound and no stalling.

Or you could get an adjustable BOV like the GReddy Type S or HKS SSQQ and tighten it enough that the stalling doesn't occur.

My recommendation would be to just get a single pipe, either OEM or hardpipe to replace the stock one your BOV is connected to. Then save your moeny and get a Front Mount Intercooler kit which comes with new pipeing, or get the upgraded Side Mount Intercooler and some hardpipes. At that point you can think about upgrading your BOV, but it is not somethign you NEED to do at stock boost levels.

I have run the stock set up, and the single harpipe with a greddy type s set up. I'm now about to switch to a front mount intercooler since th Hiboost kit was delivered last night :)

[celdridge]

2 pictures

OMG ... is that a BOV attached to stock plastic IC piping ... ouch.