View Full Version : Corksport Exhaust Owners
evilmonkeyMSP
09-19-2004, 06:45 PM
For anyone who has purchased and is currently using the Corksport Power Series Exhaust please tell me your thoughts on it as far as quality, sound & such. I'm thinking of getting this system for my MSP. I also understand that the 2nd O2 sensor will not be used. How did you remedy this? And have you had problems throwing a CEL all the time? All input is appreciated ...thanks!
DSMConvert
09-19-2004, 07:09 PM
CS exhaust is very nice system for a very fair price...I was very impressed with the quality, only thing is you'll have to bend the hangers to get it to fit right....though they deny it, I'm 100% sure it was built on a regular protege not a msp...other than the irritation of having to bend the hangers its a pretty good system. A little louder than it needs to be in my opinion but overall a good bang for the buck...As far as the second o2 sensor you'll have to get a mil eliminator(theres a thread in the how to section covering how to make it for $4) and you relocate it to go in the 02 bung on the j-pipe(you'll have to remove the bolt out of it first). However, you do not have to cut and lengthen the sensor wires as everyone will tell you. You can pull it up from the top of the engine and reroute it around the engine cover and down on the passengerside by the a/c compressor...if you have any questions or need help let me know we're both in the same area so....I had the system and did the 02 as above and never once threw a code, sold it to david(msp267) and did the same mil eliminator on his and he hasnt had any problems either....
evilmonkeyMSP
09-19-2004, 08:16 PM
well no i know who to call when i get it to have it installed as i have never done an exhaust before :D
iracemine
09-19-2004, 08:57 PM
well no i know who to call when i get it to have it installed as i have never done an exhaust before :D
DIY (protest)
Stats:
Owner: Pat
Car: Protege 5
Status: Slammed
Modifications:
Engine:
Ram air custom made by Half-Fast Racing
2.5" dump exhaust
Catalytic converter delete
Interior:
Short-throw shifter by B&M
Interior delete
Sparco Pro 2000 seat
Sparco 5-point 3" cam belt
Exterior:
MazdaSpeed MP3 front facia w/grill and support delete
Fog light delete
Ram air insert by Half-Fast Racing
Turn signal delete
215/35R18 Yokohama Perada Spec2
18"x7.5" Super Six wheels by 5zigens
Suspension:
Ground Control adjustable coil-overs
19mm adjustable rear swaybar by SR Motorsport
Hays Trak Day brake pads
Brembo replacment rotors
Motul 600 racing brake fluid
Stainless steel brake lines by DRE
Front: -1.5 degrees camber
Rear: -1.0 degree camber
D I Y
iracemine
09-19-2004, 09:17 PM
do it yourself.. that way you know its done the way you want. and you have the satisfaction of knowing that if anyting went wrong its your falt. pluse you save money for your next mods.. and there is tons of help from here..
no shit, i know what diy means, why the hell do you have to list all your "stats" to post
"DIY"
iracemine
09-19-2004, 09:49 PM
becuse... i did all that my self to give the poor guy confidence?
122 Vega
09-19-2004, 10:15 PM
It is good quality. It was made on a regular Protege not on an MSP. Mine needed slight bending and I bought it used off of a 2003.5. So there are differences in any car. You can and likely will have to do it yourself. It is easy, took about 2 hrs for me including welding in a hiflow cat and o2 bung. When you get it just lay it out, look under the car and just think about how to do it. It isn't that hard. Most shops won't want to do it without the cat unless you find a ricer shop. They may do it.
It does make some noticable gains. This is my dyno from yesterday.
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81791
Britt
DSMConvert
09-19-2004, 10:58 PM
hehe i guess I should point out when I say I'll help, I'll show you what to do, you'll be the one getting dirty while I drink my beer (cheers) .... but I actually do like teaching people about cars, nobody ever DIYed it without first having someone show them the basics....you'll need a socket set, 2 jack stands, a jack, a flathead screwdriver, a big box wrench, and an 02 socket(you should have everything except the 02 socket, and if you dont you're going to need them doing anything on the car so buy them anyways). If I end up helping out I can lend you my 02 socket or you can pick one up for about $9 buck from AZ....
SonicRacer
09-20-2004, 11:46 AM
I don't know why people keep thinking the second 02 is not used. YES, YOU DO USE THE SECOND 02 SENSOR. It goes in the factory location of the sedan in the second part of the downpipe. That little downpipe piece is the SAME one that's on the non-turbo models.
Anyway, I've got the original system for the MSP on my car. It's been on there for over a year now. That system is the best bang for your buck hands down. We gained a peak of 7whp on a bone stock car.
DSMConvert
09-20-2004, 12:54 PM
hehe i didnt know anyone on here said that you dont use the second o2 sensor?
SonicRacer
09-20-2004, 05:32 PM
hehe i didnt know anyone on here said that you dont use the second o2 sensor?
Are you asking a question?
The author of this post said "I also understand that the 2nd O2 sensor will not be used." And that is why I said something about it.
DSMConvert
09-20-2004, 07:26 PM
ah i thought you meant perhaps someone else in addition to him had said it.....
iracemine
09-20-2004, 09:55 PM
well, there you go. easyer than you think. I know i dont have a welder so you should take that pipe to one before you start to have that bung welded in ther, and presto!! hand tools a blazing youll be done before your papa johns arives
Glowmunkey
09-20-2004, 11:10 PM
well, there you go. easyer than you think. I know i dont have a welder so you should take that pipe to one before you start to have that bung welded in ther, and presto!! hand tools a blazing youll be done before your papa johns arives
Just use the hole in the second section of the stock downpipe...
Easy install, good exhaust. Now we need to convince Corksport to make the downpipe they promised so long ago...
DSMConvert
09-20-2004, 11:33 PM
good luck with that one, they promised parts for the mx6 crew way back in the day...4 years later still no progress, they're classic for dropping the ball half way through....i heard perrin and ********** have replacements due out here in a few weeks....
Drumfreak
09-21-2004, 01:06 AM
For anyone who has purchased and is currently using the Corksport Power Series Exhaust please tell me your thoughts on it as far as quality, sound & such. I'm thinking of getting this system for my MSP. I also understand that the 2nd O2 sensor will not be used. How did you remedy this? And have you had problems throwing a CEL all the time? All input is appreciated ...thanks!
Has anyone with this exhaust system had a friend drive away while you are behind the car? Have your friend rip away in first up to redline and push the clutch in and also listen to the revs comedown. I also have thrown flames when shifting from first to second. This is confirmed because someone followed me and told me that. It was dark out but still that frickin rocks. It's the coolest sounding exhaust from a car I have heard in person. I threw a CEL but don't really care. Peace out.
Swerny
09-21-2004, 09:51 AM
I have it, also added a hi flow cat and O2 sensor bung to it.
It's a bit loud, but in a mean kinda way, not ricer loud.
I was running the MIL eliminator, but took it off when i had the cat added. The MIL eliminator worked fine. I also extended the O2 sensor wiring to get t to the new O2 bung.
The shop who added the cat (Essential Speed) kept praising the quality of the exhaust welds and finish. It looks looks awesome. The best mod i have done to my car by far.
SonicRacer
09-21-2004, 11:30 AM
good luck with that one, they promised parts for the mx6 crew way back in the day...4 years later still no progress, they're classic for dropping the ball half way through....i heard perrin and ********** have replacements due out here in a few weeks....
It makes it easier for a company to make things when there is actual interest and response. Which there has not been for a very long time in the MX-6 world. The flip side to what you said is Mazda guys are classic for saying they want something and never coming through. :shrug:
However, I will take partial blame for things taking so long at CS regarding MSP parts. The intake is pretty much finished as of now. They just need to be produced on a large scale. Hard pipes will also be coming out in the near future. They're be a spot to add an additional injector and additional BOV (search for posts I've started for more detailed information). I might also add that CS is moving as of any time now. They're new shop will be much bigger and there will be more space to do more projects.
*I do not work for CS any longer, I just help them prototype parts now for those who are wondering my involvement.
SonicRacer
09-21-2004, 11:32 AM
well, there you go. easyer than you think. I know i dont have a welder so you should take that pipe to one before you start to have that bung welded in ther, and presto!! hand tools a blazing youll be done before your papa johns arives
NO. You don't need to weld a bung in. You don't need to do anything additional besides remove a bolt then screw the 02 in.
Glowmunkey
09-21-2004, 05:33 PM
It makes it easier for a company to make things when there is actual interest and response. Which there has not been for a very long time in the MX-6 world. The flip side to what you said is Mazda guys are classic for saying they want something and never coming through. :shrug:
However, I will take partial blame for things taking so long at CS regarding MSP parts. The intake is pretty much finished as of now. They just need to be produced on a large scale. Hard pipes will also be coming out in the near future. They're be a spot to add an additional injector and additional BOV (search for posts I've started for more detailed information). I might also add that CS is moving as of any time now. They're new shop will be much bigger and there will be more space to do more projects.
*I do not work for CS any longer, I just help them prototype parts now for those who are wondering my involvement.
I'd say there is SOME interest ina downpipe at the very least, and I know there are at least a few people on here with Corksport exhausts, or something that would bolt up to a full downpipe. If anyone sees anything concrete about a full downpipe that will bolt up to my Corksport exhaust (or the stock cat-pipe - same location, should work out) PLEASE let me know, I'll buy it immediately.
SonicRacer
09-21-2004, 06:14 PM
I'd say there is SOME interest ina downpipe at the very least, and I know there are at least a few people on here with Corksport exhausts, or something that would bolt up to a full downpipe. If anyone sees anything concrete about a full downpipe that will bolt up to my Corksport exhaust (or the stock cat-pipe - same location, should work out) PLEASE let me know, I'll buy it immediately.
Oh, no... I wasn't meaning MSP guys. They're the biggest interested group of Mazda owners I had ever experienced! The Protege exhaust system sales went through the roof once it was confirmed they fit the MSP. lol
DSMConvert
09-21-2004, 06:48 PM
thats b/c you guys had great prices on a high quality product!
evilmonkeyMSP
09-22-2004, 09:36 PM
anybody have any idea if they'll be doing another group buy for the CS exhaust? i was in the group buy before but when it came time to get the "codes" i was very short on cash ?(my dog was sick). I went to the site and the codes no longer work so i blew that one.
mp3josh
09-22-2004, 09:44 PM
I installed my Corksport exhaust yesterday and I AM IN LOVE WITH IT!!!!
it is the greatest exhaust note I have ever heard. I have no CEL yet and I have driven 100-150 miles on it already...
I installed my Corksport exhaust yesterday and I AM IN LOVE WITH IT!!!!
it is the greatest exhaust note I have ever heard. I have no CEL yet and I have driven 100-150 miles on it already...
Did YOU'RE second O2 sensor just plug in?
In other words, was there already a bung for the second O2 sensor?
I'm still confused about this.
mp3josh
09-22-2004, 11:32 PM
It leaves teh stock NA Downpipe off of the first cat. So the O2 sensor stays. I dunno where people have troubles.
Did YOU'RE second O2 sensor just plug in?
In other words, was there already a bung for the second O2 sensor?
I'm still confused about this.
Click for pic of where the O2 Sensor goes. (http://www.corksport.com/content/00/01/06/61/73/uploaded.files/exhaust2.jpg)
On the stock DP coming off the turbo (yeah yeah) you see the O2 sensor plugged in. Currently there is just a bolt there on the MSP. When you install your CS exhaust you will just need to move that sensor (which is between the cats I believe) to the spot shown in the pic and wire in your MIL if you do not get a cat to weld in. I hope that helped.
DigitalHeadShot
09-23-2004, 01:03 AM
so all in all do you think it is worth it to get the corksport? Or should one spend the extra cash and get a 3 inch exahaust sys that cost double or triple the amount. I hear the iON and perrin are top notch exhaust out there too.
I, like so many other love the idea of under 400 bucks over 900 plus..I just want to know if it is worth the extra 500 plus bucks or not to pick up a 3 inch system? I would asume that a three inch would be great if I wanted to rip the turbo out and add a super turbo and make a none stop drag car. But for a little added pep the 13 claimed hp that corksport gets is right there with any other exhaust gain I read about for the msp? What would make iON or perrin any better if your not plaining on makeing monster hp with a larger turbo..??? I just want to know if the extra 5 or 6 inch of exhaust is worth 500 or 600 bucks? If someone can please explain how and why I would gladly spend the extra dough.
on personal note the exhaust from corksport sounds really nice from there clips on the website.
DSMConvert
09-23-2004, 08:51 AM
The 2.4" CS system will be fine up to around 300whp, after that you'd need 3". Personally I would wait for the perrin or ********** s/j-pipe combo to come out and see what the pricing is. I'm willing to be that the combo will be under $400, mean that for $700 you'd have the same thing as Ion sells for a grand except in 2.4"
Swerny
09-23-2004, 09:37 AM
so all in all do you think it is worth it to get the corksport? Or should one spend the extra cash and get a 3 inch exahaust sys that cost double or triple the amount.
on personal note the exhaust from corksport sounds really nice from there clips on the website.I have the CS and love it. It is a bit loud, but still acceptable.
I have added a hi-flow cat to mine, so i no longer use the MIL eliminator.
The MIL did work while i used it though.
I never plan on changing turbos or runnng crazy boost, so for me the CS was the right choice.
I do hope someone though makes a Downpipe to work with this exhaust as it leaves the most restreictive stock part on the car, the J pipe or whatever it's called.
I'm sure the iON and Perrin will make more power, but I don't have $1000 for an exhaust. I picked mine up for $300.
My car breathes better and for my mods, it works well.
My 2 cents.
DigitalHeadShot
09-23-2004, 11:04 AM
The 2.4" CS system will be fine up to around 300whp, after that you'd need 3". Personally I would wait for the perrin or ********** s/j-pipe combo to come out and see what the pricing is. I'm willing to be that the combo will be under $400, mean that for $700 you'd have the same thing as Ion sells for a grand except in 2.4"
the perrin exhaust is little over 900 already so what your saying is the ********** is makeing an s/j pipe combo for the cs exhaust or is ********** going to have a full exhaust for 700? sorry to sound confuseing but the way I read it is with the price of the cs and the j/s pipe you will pay a total of about 700 give or take right? or where you saying streetunint is makeing a whole exhaust for 700? I dont think I can stomach a over a grand for an exhaust unless I was getting fujitsubo for my EVO, and even then its hard to do.
as of now I dont know what my hp rateing is but I have fmic (wagner kit) mbc (set to spike 10 and rest on 8 threw redline) Custom intake and type s bov( all ss hardpipes) other than a few cosmetics thats it. I know I need an exhaust because the car feel so held back. It just alot easier to stomach 300 or so bucks over a grand or so.
If I read what you put right I will go ahead and buy the cs exhaust possible and then get the s/j pipe combo when it is rdy, thats if I read you right.
As far as the cs being loud they offer a silencer and I thought it sounded okay on there website. But how is the cabin sound MS MSP?
I just can't see spending upwards of 2 grand (ION fo example) for an exhaust. I don't care if Jesus himself welded it...I just wouldn't be buying it. Compared to other exhausts on the market you get a lot with the CS with little money. For the prices CS show for their J or whatever pipe to make my exhaust a full turbo back...I would have spent UNDER $500 bucks. You spend over $500 just for a cat back system. Then another $300 for mid-pipe and whatever for the J-pipe. Why? Most go custom because they can get them a hell of a lot cheaper. I would have but the CS was too sweet. I love my exhaust and do not regret buying it. Also the exhaust is not loud outside the car. I think it's the sound material in our cars or lack of it, but I could be wrong.
Ok sorry im done. And my prices were based of when I was searching for an exhaust earlier this year. Of course I have one now so I don't need to keep up to date with all others pricing.
DigitalHeadShot
09-23-2004, 11:09 AM
I think the system sounds amazing.... It's not too loud, it may be on the NA cars, but it's PERFECT on the MSP. It sounds like power, not an added on system. The muffler can they use on that system is also available by itself. I used that can on my Probe GT with 2.5" pipe. It sounded amazing on that too.
And due to the quality, price, sound, and overall performance of their style of systems I will also be getting their system for my RX-8 once I get it.
:thumbs-up:
Well its seems like a right system if your not going for monster hp but a more so a peppy everyday driver.
DigitalHeadShot
09-23-2004, 11:13 AM
I I would have but the CS was too sweet. I love my exhaust and do not regret buying it. Also the exhaust is not loud outside the car. I think it's the sound material in our cars or lack of it, but I could be wrong.
how is the sound inside the car?
how is the sound inside the car?
At about 3-3800 it gets a little loud inside but bleeds off at higher rpm. It's not too loud though. The exhaust is not raspy and changes tone in the higher rpm. I love it and im happy with it. If you want it to be non-existent you can drive like a grandma and you wont hear (at least I dont). I love the backfire. That is really cool. I even get it when my car is at idle. Also, I love driving under bridges, I almost wet my pants one time because it sounded so good.
Overall, I think this exhaust has a good balance for me. It's there when I want it and not when I don't. Great for in city driving and nice for highway but I would say don't drive too long. Like I said, I think its louder in the car because of lack of sound material. Before I got the exhaust I could hear dirt hit my car so when driving it kinda give you a false sense of what the exhaust is really like but its still cool inside. If you get it...drive around town inside your car and then have a buddy drive it as you follow him in another car so you can hear what others hear during cruising, or under a heavy load.
DigitalHeadShot
09-23-2004, 11:29 AM
you wouldnt have the means to make a sound clip and do you have the silencer?
I sorta do but then I don't. If I did it would take me a little bit to get it up and posted. And I do not have the silencer but I will purchase one soon as I am about to take a road trip.
Riles
09-23-2004, 09:58 PM
I also love the backfire, and the flames! Its true- on my 1-2 and 2-3 shifts in the dark, you can see faint flames!!!!!!
Sometimes, the backfire can get annoying if you are trying to be quiet. But, gotta love it!
Swerny
09-24-2004, 10:11 AM
As far as the cs being loud they offer a silencer and I thought it sounded okay on there website. But how is the cabin sound MS MSP?
It is a bit loud at highway cruising speeds. I added more stereo gear to compensate!
I don't have the slencer and don't like the idea of sticking a cork in the end of my exhaust.
All in all, it's not bad, my fiance doesn't even complain and it sounds bad ass outside the car (i've heard it when she moves my car out of the driveway).
I don't think you can complain one bit considering the cost of it.
I would buy it again in a second.
DigitalHeadShot
09-24-2004, 03:35 PM
hey guys thanks for you time and care, you have all given me more than enough reasons to go ahead and buy it now I have to sit and wait on it.
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