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Hypnotized
09-07-2004, 09:35 PM
I have searched and asked this question before to some that have described something similar and have not received an answer or possible fix. My problem/annoying sound only happens when in gear and between 1600-2000RPM's while accelerating very lightly or when de-accelerating and always at that particular RPM. I only have an Injen Intake and forge bov with a hardpipe. I know some have similar issues and I am wandering if its something loose or its just always going to be there? It sounds like its coming from either the underneith the passenger side of the car or in the engine bay. I have checked the heat shield and all bolts in the engine bay and the car still boosts and runs perfectly. Any ideas??

wicked
09-07-2004, 10:03 PM
DAMN IT,THAT NOISE WILL BE THE DEATH OF ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

but seriouly people have tried and tried,but have not figured it out.
if you do PLEASE tell us.If your close to stock take it to the dealer,please.

Striker187
09-07-2004, 10:27 PM
you probably checked it already but make sure your injen intake isn't rubbing the edges of the hole that leads down into the fender. mine was rattling bad so i ziptied some pieces of rubber hose around it and it works fine.

tampaspeed22
09-07-2004, 10:54 PM
I am having this problem right now. My car has been in about 5 times in the last 2 weeks. It turned out to be the actuator. They have finally decided to replace the turbo. By the way my car is completely stock.

Aaron
09-07-2004, 11:22 PM
look at the exhaust bracket that bolts on to the transmission and to the exhaust. mine cracked in half and had awful rattle at low speeds. took me forever to find it. you really half (--ebonics, LOL, i was gonna edit my english but thought this was too funny) to be under the car to see the crack i had. anyways check that. I hope you find it.

Ljspeed
09-08-2004, 12:52 AM
Ok I think I finally located the source for that sound last weekend. I jacked it up in the front and left it running and it finally started making the noise. Takes a while since like some said, it usually does it when your in gear or when you have the A/C on. It sounds almost like a squeaky belt but more of a a loose bolt w/washer noise. I thought it was my exhaust manifold bolts, although they were a little loose and I checked everywhere under the hood trying to figure where it was coming from. So I get underneather and those exhaust/cat bolts with those springs was what is causing mine. I pushed up against it with a wrench and it started making that crappy sound. I was gonna spray something on it like WD40 but I dont think thats the solution. But I wanna see if this is the same situation for everyone having this problem. Its so damn annoying and dealers suck on pin pointing noise problems. So let me know if anyone is able to check those two bolts connecting the catalytic conv.

Ljspeed
09-08-2004, 12:54 AM
Also just looking at Aarons post, that bracket looks cracked on mine too and that may have a direct effect to making those bolts noisy. I just rememberd that. That bracket that holds the exhaust looked split in half:(

I gotta check it out again when i get a chance

Aaron
09-08-2004, 12:12 PM
what I ended up doing is removing the broken bracket from the transmission and now no more noise for me. It must have been rubbing against the bracket, since it was broken and not holding the exhaust.

Hypnotized
09-08-2004, 09:12 PM
I gotta get underneith the car to check the bracket. I went underneith the car about a month ago and found nothing by shaking the exhaust but now I have a better idea of where to look.

If the actuator was screwed, wouldnt you be having boost issues? I used to have a passat and the actuator went and it never boosted after that, plus it made a weird sound when you gave it gas. It kind of sounded like loose change in your pocket. It happened everytime you stepped on the gas even when it wasnt in gear. Just curious, I really dont want to have the same problem again.

tampaspeed22
09-08-2004, 09:49 PM
They told me that it was a rod on the actuator. I didn't have any boost issues though. It still drives fine, just rattles.

wicked
09-09-2004, 03:45 PM
They told me that it was a rod on the actuator. I didn't have any boost issues though. It still drives fine, just rattles.

tell them if thats the case,then stop the rattle.

Hypnotized
09-09-2004, 06:51 PM
Im debating on if I should attempt a trip to the dealership. I really dont have time to remove the injen and I would have to take a day off from work to go there and if it is in fact a heat shield I would be very mad. Im going to check this weekend and see if its the heat shield and if not then I guess off to the dealership I go. Does anyone know if they would give a loaner or does it depend on the dealership. I live almost an hour away which is the reason why I would have to take the day off because I wouldnt make it in on time.

Spooled
09-10-2004, 12:57 AM
I HAVE BEEN TO THE DEALERSHIP WITH THIS PROBLEM!

They don't know shit. To me, it sounds like loose play in a rod bearing or something. As if there is a gap until it heats up enough to take the slack out. That would make sense because of when the sound comes. It's only a light throttle, which means that the intirtia of the crank just barely keeps up with the rods pushing it.

Hypnotized
09-11-2004, 02:38 PM
I HAVE BEEN TO THE DEALERSHIP WITH THIS PROBLEM!

They don't know shit. To me, it sounds like loose play in a rod bearing or something. As if there is a gap until it heats up enough to take the slack out. That would make sense because of when the sound comes. It's only a light throttle, which means that the intirtia of the crank just barely keeps up with the rods pushing it.
I guess theres no fix.

Ljspeed
10-06-2004, 12:27 AM
I guess theres no fix.Ok first off Aaron thanks for pointing out the bracket. I saw a while back that it was cracked but I didnt believe it was the problem until I removed it today. In fact when I removed it as you can see it the pic, it came out in 3 pieces. I lost the other piece when I unbolted it. But when it was mounted you could clearly see the crack all the way across. And this bracket is mounted on the tranny underside and its right where the J pipe meets the first cat for those wondering. It looks like its suppose to hold the exhaust secure but its fine without as Aaron can confirm. So if your having these intermittent rings/rattles at idle or when your accelerating, check this bracket. I drove it around alot today afterwards to make sure it was gone and its is!(rockon)

Stormtrooper77
10-06-2004, 10:34 AM
So you don't even need this bracket?

Crock
10-06-2004, 09:10 PM
What does this bracket to? If it's cracked like that i'm a bit concerned.

peepsalot
10-06-2004, 10:23 PM
It secures the j-pipe to the transmission. I guess it would be ok without it, if the rest of the exhaust is secured well. Do the aftermarket exhausts even use this bracket?

I just checked mine and it looked fine. I think the noise caused by this broken bracket is a different noise than Hypnotized and I are experiencing. It ONLY happens in the 1600-1800 rpm range. I'm going to have to get a friend of mine to hold the rpms steady in that range while I stick my ear in the engine bay. Maybe it is the actuator, I haven't checked that yet. Is there a way to tell the acuator is bad, with the car off?
I park on the roof of a parking garage everyday, and it just so happens that the speed I go through the garage is just right to make that sound and drive me insane.

Ljspeed
10-06-2004, 11:48 PM
If I remember correctly, any aftermarket exhaust will not utilize that bracket. But yeah I had to crank it while on the jack and I just waited patiently till the noise came on and off. I checked all around the engine bay and then underneath quickly where I located it to that bracket. But thats the only way to do it cause the dealer wont go through that trouble:(

Hypnotized
10-07-2004, 06:33 PM
It secures the j-pipe to the transmission. I guess it would be ok without it, if the rest of the exhaust is secured well. Do the aftermarket exhausts even use this bracket?

I just checked mine and it looked fine. I think the noise caused by this broken bracket is a different noise than Hypnotized and I are experiencing. It ONLY happens in the 1600-1800 rpm range. I'm going to have to get a friend of mine to hold the rpms steady in that range while I stick my ear in the engine bay. Maybe it is the actuator, I haven't checked that yet. Is there a way to tell the acuator is bad, with the car off?
I park on the roof of a parking garage everyday, and it just so happens that the speed I go through the garage is just right to make that sound and drive me insane.
I still have yet to get underneith my car to check this bracket. Im just to lazy, plus now that its getting cooler and I have my windows up most of the time I cant hear the noise. I know exactly what your saying when you go through the parking garage though, it pisses me off so much that I just try to stay at a higher RPM to avoid it.

Hypnotized
10-10-2004, 02:19 PM
Okay. I have completely checked every damn nut underneith the car and everything is tight. I just got done putting all the stock parts back on the car and now I can barely hear that damn noise. Is it caused by the intake? How the hell am I going to try to have the dealer fix this if they cant hear it? Any ideas?

Hypnotized
10-13-2004, 10:03 PM
Bump for opinions

mSHOCKERp
10-13-2004, 11:37 PM
I have the same freakin noise and it only comes on during certain RPM's and never at idle. I just simply cannot place the noise, although I had a feeling it was coming from behind the dash, possibly involving my AutoMeter Electronic Boost Guage. Keep me updated too, I don't have time to go through my whole car for a noise, and the dealer sucks.

Mike

yashooa
10-14-2004, 12:49 PM
Also just looking at Aarons post, that bracket looks cracked on mine too and that may have a direct effect to making those bolts noisy. I just rememberd that. That bracket that holds the exhaust looked split in half:(

I gotta check it out again when i get a chance
Well my exhaust and at least one other MSP's exhaust did fall in halF!

Hypnotized
10-16-2004, 09:52 AM
Im going to the dealer on tuesday for both the alarm shit and this annoying noise. I have noticed that you can still here it so they better do something about it. I will let you all know when I get the car back.

Crock
11-24-2004, 06:37 PM
^ Did you get any warranty work out of this?

Hypnotized
11-27-2004, 09:55 AM
Yes I did. The noise tunred out to be my wastegate and they replaced the whole turbo. I asked for a reason for this happening and was told that it was not a normal issue and it would not happen again. At least they fixed it the first time:)

[SA]TheSwift.CC
06-09-2005, 03:10 PM
^^^^
Hmm, that is very interesting....the dealer I took my car to regarding that characteristic rattle at 1800-2000 rpm said that it was "a mazdaspeed thing", and dismissed it.

At least they recognized it was a problem.....

Hypnotized
06-09-2005, 07:13 PM
Thats bullshit bro. Its like a mettalic rattle noise at exctly 1800 rpms. The dealer ordered a turbo and kept the car there that day until they were able to get a new one. I would go to another dealer. You want to get this fixed under warranty rather then something happening later on at the expense of your own pocket.