GI: MSP 3" Turbo Back Exhaust

[terbow]

I was thinking about getting a custom 3" Exhaust done. This shop i go to is very reputable and does good work. Albeit they get a lil slammed at times, the waits arent as bad as ive seen with other places. Would there be any interest in getting this produced? Cause when i go i can have them jig it up. I dont have any problem getting a group buy together, i just need to show him theres interest. It would be Stainless Steel for sure, and 3" Ill probably so seperate wg path and go 2.5" to 3" on the downpipe (like in the pic). Im sure we can play with options and once i go there i can talk turkey. Heres a pic of the turbo header they made for my cav.

http://www.rendershack.com/stuff/hdr_f.jpg

http://www.rendershack.com/stuff/hdr_r.jpg

they do nice work. so basically, i want to make sure theyres interest before i ask, im gonna get it done either way but thought id give it a whirl. Im not trying to compete with anyone, but ill dyno it and such to show gains.

[unwound]

ooooooooo!!!!! exhaust mani. mmmmmmmmmmm!

see if they can produce a exhaust mani for the msp.

i don't need a whole turbo back, just the s-pipe and j-pipe.

git-r-dun

[terbow]

i can do that too. That be a good idea actually. The rest is easy custom work. You want a new turbo mani? cause dc sports is makin one, this place will cost alot for custom that header is 321 stainless, you dont want to know what it costs lol. I can ask them once i get the exhaust stuff done. Im sticking with my oem one for sure though.

[daedalus]

i think most people would be intrested. iON rocks no doubt, and they make a top quality product. I just dont see why every other car (i.e. Exclipse GSX) can offer manufactures that produce Turbo Back exhausts for under 499.99 the MSP only has one real 3" option and it costs 1299.99. Granted I would love an iON and is in the plans, but at the cost its gonna be while, especially since I havent even bought my MSP yet (28 days and counting)...

[terbow]

i dont expect for a turbo back to be under 500 but if i can get it between 500-1000 for stainless i think that would be great. stainless isnt cheap.

[Glowmunkey]

Sure, tons of interest... but it's tough, these threads appear constantly, but no parts ever get made. Hard to commit when that's going on.

[terbow]

not asking for commitment, point well taken though. i know how it is. I just was looking to see if its worth jig'ing it or not cause id have to pay for it depending on interest but if they jig it the first time i wont have to give it to em again. i dont mind paying for it as long as itll help everyone out. but theres no doubt these people can make it, i just want to minimize any downtime it might cause myself. :)

[gixermixer]

if i could get a s-pipe, or s-j combo 2.5 or 3in made of SS for under 500, i would be in. A high flow cat option would be nice as well.

[StreakinOraNgeX]

I would definitely be interested in the s pipe and or j pipe. Actually I'm sure a lot of people would be interested considering mostly everyone who has custom exhaust either doesn't have the j pipe made or spipe made. Either way, the shop to do this would make bank.

[raku]

im interested, fo sho

[gboromsp]

I'd be interested in the s-pipe and midpipe with a high-flow cat. I don't care about the catback as I already have a high quality piece on there.

[JfSearcy]

That's the manifold for your cav? That looks like Johhny Mac's Manifold. HIS SHIT KICKS BUTT! Seriously, he's so dedicated to quality its not funny.

[warrier04]

i'd definitely be interested in an upgraded s-pipe ... 2.5"

doesn't have to be stainless, just good quality.

drew.

[speedhawaii]

i wouldnt mind just a s-pipe back

[goku4658]

i'm interested in everything 3" turbo-back including s-pipe, j-pipe,high flow cat, over the rear axle, mandrel bent stainless steel

yeah i have alot of demands, but i am saving my pennies for an ion so...

[Glowmunkey]

Don't get me wrong, if you make the parts, show pics etc, and can get me the stuff within a reasonable time - instead of many many months... I'll be the first to paypal the cash. Hell show me a good exhaust, with quality fit in 3", I'll buy the whole damn thing and sell my Corksport, but I'm not paying insane prices for it. Some vendors act like this car's exhaust requires reinventing the wheel...

[kazson]

price will tell (monkey)

[terbow]

That is Macks mani, i been there since its incarnation and even helped install a few kits. The shop we go to is great. Ill go there when i get a moment. So where should this pipe end then? Where the midpipe stops? I think thatll be easiest so anyone can get any catback they want. Right?


That's the manifold for your cav? That looks like Johhny Mac's Manifold. HIS SHIT KICKS BUTT! Seriously, he's so dedicated to quality its not funny.

[terbow]

Don't get me wrong, if you make the parts, show pics etc, and can get me the stuff within a reasonable time - instead of many many months... I'll be the first to paypal the cash. Hell show me a good exhaust, with quality fit in 3", I'll buy the whole damn thing and sell my Corksport, but I'm not paying insane prices for it. Some vendors act like this car's exhaust requires reinventing the wheel...

Well im not a company, Im not looking to make money on it either, whatever it cost me it, thats what it would cost you. Its definately going to be stainless. i cant offer you guys a warranty other than manufacture defect. So stainless is best. it wont rust and last as long as the car. I can ask them for prices on lesser matierals also, but i wont honor any rusting issues. Im just doin this as a favor. It will be mandrel bent either way.

Now for flanges.... theres 2 types. theres one thats completely open and theres one that is kinda like what ion uses.

flange 2: (http://store4.yimg.com/I/cheapturbo_1790_1860894)
this one would be the easiest i think, we can just cut out the wg hole and run a 2nd pipe and merge it into one (similar to ion). This way we can divorce the 2 flows. (ill look into adding a wall between the 2). Or the other flange which is really open and would mix the 2 flows right away. I vote for the 2nd flange. Any thoughts?

[Spooled]

Is there anyone here that has access to a laser cutter or water jet? My buddy runs a water jet at a granite shop and feeds the cuts through CAD, and the result it very clean and accurate. That thing will cut through SS like nothing, too. The only problem is that he can't sit there and make a bunch of them. But if someone else has access to something like that, it won't be hard to recreate that shape. All it takes is a trace of the turbo flange, then use that as a reference. It would only take one trial cut and you could make the necessary changes easily. Then all you have to do is work on the tubing.

[jonbig]

Im not trying to be a pain in the ass by asking for seperate parts..but i would be VERY interested in just the midpipe section w/ no cats. on that will bolt up to a stock msp, stainless or mild ill go either way if its less than $330. cause in the next week or so im was planing on buying the apex..only b/c i cant find one for cheaper

[terbow]

anyone have an old s pipe and j pipe layin around i can buy for cheap? cause i can send that to them and get it started. so i dont lose my car lol

[iON Performance]

jonbig (http://www.msprotege.com/forum/member.php?u=11246)<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_1206848", true); </SCRIPT> - are you referring to a "cat-delete" section? (ie: bolts up to the 3 bolt flange and to the 2-bolt flange after the cats?) If that's the case, ours shipped to you with the member discount is significantly cheaper then the Apex one.

terbow (http://www.msprotege.com/forum/member.php?u=10874) - If you plan on trying to run divorced WG path; it better be running into a collector at the proper length. Otherwise plumbing the WG into the turbine path improperly will cause many problems and hinder performance.

[Glowmunkey]

Well im not a company, Im not looking to make money on it either, whatever it cost me it, thats what it would cost you. Its definately going to be stainless. i cant offer you guys a warranty other than manufacture defect. So stainless is best. it wont rust and last as long as the car. I can ask them for prices on lesser matierals also, but i wont honor any rusting issues. Im just doin this as a favor. It will be mandrel bent either way.

Now for flanges.... theres 2 types. theres one thats completely open and theres one that is kinda like what ion uses.

flange 2: (http://store4.yimg.com/I/cheapturbo_1790_1860894)
this one would be the easiest i think, we can just cut out the wg hole and run a 2nd pipe and merge it into one (similar to ion). This way we can divorce the 2 flows. (ill look into adding a wall between the 2). Or the other flange which is really open and would mix the 2 flows right away. I vote for the 2nd flange. Any thoughts?
I vote for divorced wastegate piping. The collector should be properly sized, and around 18" or more away from the flange connecting to the turbo.

[terbow]

anyone have an s pipe and j pipe to donate? i can give it back when im done, they want a stock one, i cant take mine off the car at the moment.

[Spooled]

jonbig (http://www.msprotege.com/forum/member.php?u=11246)<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_1206848", true); </SCRIPT> - are you referring to a "cat-delete" section? (ie: bolts up to the 3 bolt flange and to the 2-bolt flange after the cats?) If that's the case, ours shipped to you with the member discount is significantly cheaper then the Apex one.

The s-pipe (part connected to the turbo) is what everyone is after an affordable version of.

[terbow]

ok heres what i got.

It will take 1 week (form when i get an oem S and J pipe) to fabricate. Then i test it blah blah. So within 2 weeks or so from when i get a stock pipe. Now i personally think its impossible to just make the s pipe in 3" the bends to steep so were gonna make it the S and J combined. Im assuming thats fine with everyone. This way you just need a midpipe and catback. Or i can get the midpipe made also but thats going to take a lil longer. Once i get the oem pipes ill work out materials and price. Ill keep everyone updated. Sooner i get the oem pieces the sooner i can make this happen.

[hazeXban]

Thanks for all the effort man. I wish I could donate my pipes for this but I too need the car intact. Good luck.

pete

[goku4658]

no you don't...drive the saturn!

[terbow]

lol. ^

I would use mine but i really cant afford the downtime.

[kazson]

with all this talk of J pipe S pipe blah blah are you still are going to offer a complete turboback verison ? i just want it all in one shot with a N1 type exhaust

[hazeXban]

Well I could drive the sat..I just don't know if I want to hehe, it was a commuter car till I got this job in NY but now I take a bus so no miles on any vehicle I own for work. Anything in it for me if I donate for fabrication?

[Spooled]

S-pipe / j-pipe combo would be tits! Can't wait. BTW, I'd donate mine, but it's my daily driver.

[Spooled]

slo03.5msp (http://www.msprotege.com/forum/member.php?u=8435)<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_1207091", true); </SCRIPT> has an OEM s-pipe to donate. Contact him!

[terbow]

k i did. the dp and exhaust is 2 diff places so yes its possible. i can have it made it would just take me a week or 2 once i get the dp to get the exhaust jigged. im not a company just a regular guy trying to help out so i can get it full exhast, i just have to rely on the fabricators.

If you donate your pipes you can get a handshake, lol im not sure how i would offer anything im trying to help everyone else out.

[hazeXban]

hehe it was worth a shot. I hope this donator works out. I am really interested in seeing how this turns out. Keep up the good work.

[terbow]

yea id love to give away prizes for helping but im tapped for cool stuff.

[Mark-MsP]

What kinda cash are we talking shipped on a FULL 3" turboback w/ highflow cat? I'm very interested. Have the money waiting just looking for something to pounce on.

[Spooled]

I just drove my buddy's RSX-S after he installed a catless header going into his 2.75" exhaust. Man, WHAT A DIFFERENCE! It just makes me want this even more.

[03BlkMicaSPD]

interested

[terbow]

im not sure what it costs, id need the dp before i get an exhaust thats what im waiting on. so soon as i get it made i can get prices. but i can say there wont be any markup, maybe 5 bucks to cover my gas hahaha

[Spooled]

Great news! I can't wait. Any more word on getting a pipe? We need to advertise this thread more to people who have Ion exhaust.

[terbow]

yea its exciting for me 2. i pm'd ur friend there and he has the j pipe so in a few weeks he has the s pipe so im trying to get this done asap. hes willing to help. its very appreciated. soon as i get an s and j pipe ill head up there.

[Mark-MsP]

Like I say, you can close to sign me up. Please tell me it will be SS. I am awaiting your orders Captain.

[jflo]

hmm, i'm gonna subscribe and see where this goes. hopefully by the time this comes out, i won't be too out of money while in college.

[terbow]

yes ss for sure, i live in new england lol

[hazeXban]

any update?

[BLU BY U]

Intrested In 2.5" S-pipe & J-pipe!!!!!

[TheJohnny]

ok here is the 15 minute bump...hehe.

[hazeXban]

No need to bump, this obviously isn't happening (bang)