Attention Racing Beat Cat Back Owners

[aceP5]

I have searched and searched this forum and cannot find a SINGLE sound clip for the Racing Beat catback. I have seen many people ask for one, but they have never received on.

When I say Racing Beat Catback, I do NOT mean the mazdaspeed axle back. I don't mean the MP3 exhaust or any MazdaSpeed muffler of any kind. I am refering to the full stainless steel, 2.375" system that is on the Racing Beat website for $449.00. It is made for the P5 and Protege, but the P5 tip is shorter.

I would love it if someone who owned a Racing Beat to post a sound or video clip. I really want to hear it for myself. I have heard that it is quiet. I want my exhaust to be loud enough so that it is easily noticeable, but not too loud that it breaks sound ordinances. It is hard to determine the sound level of an exhaust by just hearing what people say about it. Like I have said, I have heard that it is barely noticeable over the stock exhaust. So please, if you know of a clip, point me in that direction. If you have a clip, please post it. I would appreciate it VERY much. I really love this exhaust system and would love to hear it before I make a decision.

On that note, I am sure that many other people will appreciate a clip as well. Thanks.

[msubullyfan]

I have searched and searched this forum and cannot find a SINGLE sound clip for the Racing Beat catback. I have seen many people ask for one, but they have never received on.

When I say Racing Beat Catback, I do NOT mean the mazdaspeed axle back. I don't mean the MP3 exhaust or any MazdaSpeed muffler of any kind. I am refering to the full stainless steel, 2.375" system that is on the Racing Beat website for $449.00. It is made for the P5 and Protege, but the P5 tip is shorter.

I would love it if someone who owned a Racing Beat to post a sound or video clip. I really want to hear it for myself. I have heard that it is quiet. I want my exhaust to be loud enough so that it is easily noticeable, but not too loud that it breaks sound ordinances. It is hard to determine the sound level of an exhaust by just hearing what people say about it. Like I have said, I have heard that it is barely noticeable over the stock exhaust. So please, if you know of a clip, point me in that direction. If you have a clip, please post it. I would appreciate it VERY much. I really love this exhaust system and would love to hear it before I make a decision.

On that note, I am sure that many other people will appreciate a clip as well. Thanks.
A guy I work with has a Miata RB catback and it sounds SOOOO good! I want one for my P5, but $449 is too much.

[aceP5]

It is cheaper elsewhere. Like Racing Extreme = $430 shipped. Protege5online.com = $460 shipped. Racingbeat.com = $487 shipped.

On that Miata RB, is it quiet? Or is it still easily noticeable at idle? I guess it really doesn't matter, being as how it is the Miata, not the P5. Oh well.

[msubullyfan]

It is cheaper elsewhere. Like Racing Extreme = $430 shipped. Protege5online.com = $460 shipped. Racingbeat.com = $487 shipped.

On that Miata RB, is it quiet? Or is it still easily noticeable at idle? I guess it really doesn't matter, being as how it is the Miata, not the P5. Oh well.
I think it would be comparable. The design features of the Miata exhaust should be similar to the Protegé.

I think it sounded awesome! It was just a little louder than stock, but by no means was it loud enough to be annoying. I like the sound pitch, too. Sorta deep and music-like.

[aceP5]

So was it really noticeable from outside the car? What about from inside the car? I like the performance gain, I just want to make sure that it is a good, loud enough sound. I know that it has good pitch (it is deep) but I have no idea what the volume is.

[Pretzellogic]

Without a sound clip, I'm not sure how to help you. It is deep, and loud enough that you notice it in the cabin, but it isn't intrusive. Only gets really loud above 4 grand. I can still hear my intake over it when accelerating.

All in all, it's a great exhaust. Souds great, and easy to live with.

[lgagno1]

Fuck racing beat. I ordered a catback p5 about 5 months ago and when I received it, they didn't send the damn resonator. They've been saying forever that I received it and just want another. Bullshit. Also, the tip came with a dent in it, along with others that bought from them. Hope the company has a fire and goes out of business.

[Captain KRM P5]

i have one of the first ones they made, its very quiet to me in comparison to the other exhausts i have seen on this car

[NJP5Guy]

its not "barely" louder than stock. its at least 2.5-3x times deeper than stock. you notice it outside the car. if someone drove by with one youd hear it. i say buy it.

[aceP5]

its not "barely" louder than stock. its at least 2.5-3x times deeper than stock. you notice it outside the car. if someone drove by with one youd hear it. i say buy it.

Thanks for the input, that helps me a lot. How does it sound at idle (after the engine is warmed up)? Thanks to everyone for their input, keep it coming. I'd appreciate sound clips, but if you don't have one don't hesitate to comment on the sound like NJP5Guy did. Also, post up pics if you have them, that doesn't hurt me. Post pics especially if you have the RB on a yellow P5. Thanks!!!!

[ottawaP5]

Inside the car when it's idling, it sounds almost like stock, the noise being deeper, but not louder.
I find it gets louder with more people in the car since the engine is under a greater load.

Are you worried that it'll be too loud or not loud enough?

[NetGuy]

Here's a short video FunkyBuddha did today of the RB catback. This wasn't revving to redline, but you get the idea.

[Blarghman]

I was kind of leary about getting the RB catback too, since everyone says its so freaking quiet. I was expecting it to be pretty close to stock, but i was wrong. When people say its deep/low sounding, they arent kidding. Everyone i take for a ride falls in love with the sound of the exhaust. It's SUPER low and bassy sounding, but its not loud. When you're gunning it, it sounds really nice and deep and gets quite a bit louder than stock. When you're outside the car, its much louder than stock, but is far from unpleasant or disruptive.

I'm thinking of slappin together a video for you guys since I was wondering what the hell it sounded like for the months that i was thinking about getting the exhaust. I'll try to have an idling part, an interior run and an exterior run.

[NJP5Guy]

I was kind of leary about getting the RB catback too, since everyone says its so freaking quiet. I was expecting it to be pretty close to stock, but i was wrong. When people say its deep/low sounding, they arent kidding. Everyone i take for a ride falls in love with the sound of the exhaust. It's SUPER low and bassy sounding, but its not loud. When you're gunning it, it sounds really nice and deep and gets quite a bit louder than stock. When you're outside the car, its much louder than stock, but is far from unpleasant or disruptive.

I'm thinking of slappin together a video for you guys since I was wondering what the hell it sounded like for the months that i was thinking about getting the exhaust. I'll try to have an idling part, an interior run and an exterior run.

This is what I've been telling people all along. The RB just sounds fucking awesome end of story. For those who don't have it, buy it now. You won't regret it. (cool) (boobs2)

[Bumble G]

what does it sound like at highway cruise?
I used to have a Mazdaspeed axleback on my P5 and it had a nasty drone sound to it at around 2500-3500 rpm.

Is it anything like that?

[NetGuy]

what does it sound like at highway cruise?
I used to have a Mazdaspeed axleback on my P5 and it had a nasty drone sound to it at around 2500-3500 rpm.

Is it anything like that?
There can be a really mild drone around 3000 rpm, but nothing like what you're thinking of. I've had plenty of people comment that they normally hate exhaust systems on cars like this, but mine isn't bad at all. If I was buying again, I'd still buy the RB even at twice the price.

[Pretzellogic]

what does it sound like at highway cruise?
I used to have a Mazdaspeed axleback on my P5 and it had a nasty drone sound to it at around 2500-3500 rpm.

Is it anything like that? Highway cruise is NOTHING like that Mazdaspeed. I don't even notice it, really.

[andyfatsax]

I would love a RB cat back for the sound. Too bad cat backs are a waste of performance money considering there are no real gains and all the SS piping just adds extra weight to the car.

Would love to see someone prove me wrong with dyno results that are actual and not something published by RB. If you can I will go out and buy the RB CB immediately!!!

This is not a request to be flamed nor am I flamming those who enjoy a good CB exhaust, I am just speaking from experience.

[andyfatsax]

What? Nobody has dyno'd after installing their RB CB? BUMP!

[NJP5Guy]

There can be a really mild drone around 3000 rpm, but nothing like what you're thinking of. I've had plenty of people comment that they normally hate exhaust systems on cars like this, but mine isn't bad at all. If I was buying again, I'd still buy the RB even at twice the price.

2x the price is a little extreme....but id buy it again too.

[ottawaP5]

I would love a RB cat back for the sound. Too bad cat backs are a waste of performance money considering there are no real gains and all the SS piping just adds extra weight to the car.

I wouldn't say there are no real gains....they are there, it's just not astronomical. I noticed more passing power in 5th, and the motor just breathes better (Less jerkiness in 1st gear).

[NJP5Guy]

I would love a RB cat back for the sound. Too bad cat backs are a waste of performance money considering there are no real gains and all the SS piping just adds extra weight to the car.

Would love to see someone prove me wrong with dyno results that are actual and not something published by RB. If you can I will go out and buy the RB CB immediately!!!

This is not a request to be flamed nor am I flamming those who enjoy a good CB exhaust, I am just speaking from experience.

i would trust their dyno results more than others....the numbers seem honest. for them to say just over 4hp and 5lbft tque and not something like 10-12hp etc seems very reasonable to me. not sure how much it weighs. i would think it'd less than the stock one since the stock is probably made with cheap heavy materials. has anybody weighed the stock exhaust vs the RB?

[ottawaP5]

The RB weighs 44lbs total (UPS told me when they brought it to my door). It's heavier than stock.

[Lil Freek]

^^ and phil colapsed when the delivery guy gave it to him.
poor poor weakling :P

i've heard the P5 RB on the above car.. it's SWEEEET.. nice low rumble, no droning when in the car.. it's nice.

[ottawaP5]

and phil colapsed when the delivery guy gave it to him.
poor poor weakling :P

I hope you keep your car parked underground cause those rims would look great on my P5 :P

[NJP5Guy]

The RB weighs 44lbs total (UPS told me when they brought it to my door). It's heavier than stock.

but thats with packaging too. mine had a big box stuffed w/ stuffing(had to be at least 3-5lbs of packaging if not more. how much is stock.

[Chicken SOup]

Damn that sound clip was down.......
im dying to hear the RB..
To anyone who has heard the Apexi WS, how does the RB compare??
later

[ottawaP5]

but thats with packaging too. mine had a big box stuffed w/ stuffing(had to be at least 3-5lbs of packaging if not more. how much is stock.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
I've got the 2 stock pieces lying around in the basement but no scale to weigh them....I just lifted both, the muffler feels like about 15 lbs and the piping feels like 20 lbs. Maybe someone else still has their stock system lying around and could tell us.

[NJP5Guy]

I've got the 2 stock pieces lying around in the basement but no scale to weigh them....I just lifted both, the muffler feels like about 15 lbs and the piping feels like 20 lbs. Maybe someone else still has their stock system lying around and could tell us.

i have all my original plumbing. will weigh it this week and post.

[aceP5]

Here's a short video FunkyBuddha did today of the RB catback. This wasn't revving to redline, but you get the idea.

Thanks, that is awesome. I haven't checked the site in a long time, thanks so much for posting a sound clip.

As far as performance gains, go to the RB site, where they have the actual dyno graph that proves the gains of +4.7 hp and +5 ft-lbs. Look for a thread of mine "Magnaflow Dyno Is Here" (or somethuing ike that) for the Magnaflow dyno I got from magnagflow (before and after), the RB dyno, and both superimposed on each other. Both are similar but RB shows a bit better gain in low end Torque.

[aceP5]

How does the exhaust sound at high RPM? I am afraid of it getting too high pitched. Is it deep throughout the entire rpm band?

[andyfatsax]

Hey good to hear lots of imput on this subject.

I guess my point is that for 4hp is it worth the extra weight added to the car? Maybe...If that jerkiness in 1st is less noticable then it is probably worth it for that alone.

Ace P5...sorry to thread jack you brotha...but to try and help you, I say get the RB if you want a better sounding exhaust then the stock one with slight increases in power. The only other way to find out if you like it or not is arrange a meet with some fellow P5'ers and MSP'ers and see if one of them with the RB exhaust will take you for a spin.

Hope this helps.

[aceP5]

No problem, you really didn't thread jack.

But I think the exhaust is a good place to start, you really need it if you want to do other mods.

Anyone know what the RB sounds like to redline? Is it deep or is it higher pitched?

[Blarghman]

It never gets high pitched. A lot of exhausts are really loud at certain RPMs, then they get quieter at higher RPMs and things like that, but the RB seems to get louder and louder the harder you push it and the higher you rev. When I say louder i just mean bassier and audibly louder. It never sounds nasty or crappy, it always sounds deep, clean and pleasant.

[FunkyBuddha]

How does the exhaust sound at high RPM? I am afraid of it getting too high pitched. Is it deep throughout the entire rpm band?
I gave NetGuy 2 vids. One was jsut a normal rev. The other vid is all the way up to redline. It's not high pitched at all!!! Deep sounding all the way

[NetGuy]

Hey,

Here's the other bit of video with a rev all the way to redline.

It still sounds different once again when it's under load, but it only sounds better...

[aceP5]

Awesome! Thanks so much. It is god to finally hear both clips. I think it sounds a lot better in the first clip, but you have definitely erased any doubts in my mind that the exhaust is not loud enough. It definitely is noticeable. Thanks for your help. Do you have any other clips (i.e. of your car driving around/taking off, or interior sound clips)?

Oh yeah, were those clips taken when you only had the RB on the car? Or did you have other stuff, like an intake or headers?

Thanks for your help!!!

[NetGuy]

I don't have any other clips as far as sound is concerned...

Just believe me, if you like the sound outside the car, you'll like it inside the car.

As far as other mods, I do have an intake, but I don't think it's really noticable when the car isn't under load. The RB would sound about the same either way.



Awesome! Thanks so much. It is god to finally hear both clips. I think it sounds a lot better in the first clip, but you have definitely erased any doubts in my mind that the exhaust is not loud enough. It definitely is noticeable. Thanks for your help. Do you have any other clips (i.e. of your car driving around/taking off, or interior sound clips)?

Oh yeah, were those clips taken when you only had the RB on the car? Or did you have other stuff, like an intake or headers?

Thanks for your help!!!

[importcircuit]

wow i think im definitely going with the RB

[ottawaP5]

It sounds much better in real life (no offense - the clips helped a lot)......you won't be dissapointed.

[Chicken SOup]

Damn it!! Why cant i hear the clip?

[aceP5]

I needed to right click and save as in order to get it. Try that.

[sidpro5]

A great sounding system, for sure. I actually drove with the radio off for almost two weeks after installing mine. Really not much difference with a CAI or shorty header, either. With a full header I'd imagine it would be a good bit louder, though. I just need to find someone I trust to drive it around a parking lot so I can really get a good listen from outside the vehicle.

[illwill84]

While we are talking about exhuast sound, how is the magnaflow exhaust sounding???????

[MTK]

I just wanted to know if these cat back systems still sound great on an automatic? THanks

[sidpro5]

I just wanted to know if these cat back systems still sound great on an automatic? THanks
Yes. Especially if you have the sporttronic. Or whatever the hell it's called these days.

[MTK]

this may be a dumb question but what is sporttronic? (braindead

[Pretzellogic]

Automatic with a manual gear selection thingie.

[MTK]

Thanks...I understand now

[MTK]

I really want one of these systems but the price is a little high for me...I was looking on ebay and found one for 150 dollars. the Item # is 7924312687. It looks exactly the same as the racing beat one. HAs anyone bought one from Ebay? how is it? What do you guys think? Sorry to thread jack

[aceP5]

I do not think that this ebay one is the correct one. You are probably getting confused with the mazdaspeed axle back portion.

Cheapest I found it was $430 at www.racingextreme.com Fast shipping too! And about the auto tranny, mine sounds good. It is a bit quieter than I had hoped, but it is not bad. It sounds great when you take off the line.

[lgagno1]

Do not buy a racing beat catback exhaust. I know it's "supposedly" the best sounding exhaust out there, but the company is unbelievably terrible. I've been trying to get the resonator piping from them for fucking 10 months now. I originally ordered my exhaust with like 7 other people in a group buy and like 1/2 of us recieved exhausts with dented tips. This is because Racing Beat doesn't ship out the exhausts themselves. They contract a company called, Automotive Express, to come pick up the exhausts, then package them and ship them out. I've been talking to Automotive Express for the past 30 minutes and the owner admits that they didn't even add any additional packaging to the boxes, which is why alot of us have dented tips. I wouldn't even mind the dent at all if I had recieved a working exhaust, but without the straight resonator piping, I can't even connect it to my car. Automotive Express says that every single one of the exhausts they shipped out weighed 45lbs. My box says 11kgs, which to me would mean that mine only weighed 22.4lbs. Of course the company can't account for the 22.6lbs missing. They blame it on UPS, but the box I recieved was in good condition (from what I remember, it was 10 months ago...) Rishie has been helping me try to resolve the situation, but we're both just getting jerked around. He tried to talk to Racing Beat and they said for me to just get one made at a muffler shop. What a shitty company. Like I want to purchase an exhaust from them, not recieve what I need, then pay more? Rishie even offered to purchase the single resonator piping that I need in order for me to get my stuff, and Racing Beat says that they can only produce the exhaust as an entire kit. Give me a fucking break. Although they did say that Rishie could purchase the full exhaust and just give me the piping I need. (jerkit) They have no care or intention of fixing the problems with their products.

I suggest that no one purchase from Racing Beat ever again. What a load of crap this company is. I wouldn't want anyone else to have to deal with the shit that I have to deal with.

[lgagno1]

Bump

[ottawaP5]

I had great service.....everything was really well packed

[aceP5]

Mine was packed really well too - the tip was wrapped up in bubble wrap multiple times. Only problem is that my car has been completely destroyed by the hail...

[02p5]

Mine was packed really well too - the tip was wrapped up in bubble wrap multiple times. Only problem is that my car has been completely destroyed by the hail...
I have the Racing Beat Exhaust; 1st gen, where they have the logo on the wrong side and a different tip then the ones that come out now (wow)
I love this exhaust, even with no cats the car is really quiet until you let it rip. The tone is nice and deep and growls and the exhaust screams when you really gun it. The sound is really agressive and no where close to the Honda fart can buzzing. On idle is really quiet.

[mcstark]

I guess the lesson here is to avoid getting a direct ship from RB. I can understand his frustration with the poor packaging, but unfortunately outsourcing is a sign of the times. RB probably isn't high volume enough to hire a full shipping/receiving team, or they don't have the space to do it efficiently.

Yes it is their fault because they chose a crappy company to do their shipping, but if they did it in-house you'd probably be paying $600 for that cat-back kit.

Just my .02, and I don't intend this as a flame at lgagno...just my opinion.

[02p5]

I guess I was lucky with shipping, i had no problems once so ever and everything was all good for me. I dealt with a shop and they dealt with RB directly.

[Pretzellogic]

I ordered through Racing Extreme and it arrived in great shape. They get my vote.

[aceP5]

yes, Matt at Racing Extreme did a great job. he was reall nice to deal with.