How much Oil?

[jeffmsp]

hey guys, need a quick favor. I can get some free oil on the way home from work from a buddy but need to know how much the msp takes. I will delete this thread once someone answers, i just have no other way to check unless i drive all of the way home and, well free oil is free oil.


Ultra thanks to whoever can help!

Jeff

[rocketspeed]

Just shy of 4 quarts. Get 4.

[pdhaudio83]

3.5ish when using new filter.

[MSPRCRX44]

yeah get 4 quarts or if you want just take 5 incase you need a little bit down the road. besides its free.

[pdhaudio83]

yeah, damn!

just tell him it takes 50 :D

[II-Savy]

It's 3.7. Like they said get 4. Also get Mobil 1. Also Fram has a sweet filter out, 8 bucks at WalMart. I think it's called Double Protection.

[pdhaudio83]

damn. thats an $$$ filter.

[II-Savy]

Yea dude. It was 8 bucks at WALMART...lol. It was about twice the weight. Seemed nice. It also said something about teflon on it.


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=505 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width=223>http://www.fram.com/products/oil/oilimg/dblgrd.gif</TD><TD vAlign=top width=282><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=282 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=10>http://www.fram.com/siteimg/spacer.gif</TD><TD width=272>http://www.fram.com/siteimg/spacer.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD width=10></TD><TD width=272>FRAM® Double Guard® filter</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=282 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=10>http://www.fram.com/siteimg/spacer.gif</TD><TD width=272>http://www.fram.com/siteimg/spacer.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD width=10></TD><TD width=272>Contaminants from combustion and other sources can lodge in tight engine passages, causing serious and costly damage to bearings, cylinders, and other moving parts. Since oil passes through your engine four times for every mile you drive, the same oil has passed through your engine 15,000 times by the time you drive 3,000 miles. You need a filter that keeps dirt out, and keeps your engine performing at its peak.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=505 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>http://www.fram.com/siteimg/spacer.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>The FRAM Double Guard oil filter does just that, and more. The Double Guard filter is the only oil filter to contain DuPont Teflon® PTFE – the same Teflon®* PTFE as found in many of the leading oil additives. So not only does the Double Guard product filter out the harmful dirt that can corrode your engine, for those consumers who would like to use a Teflon® additive, the Double Guard filter provides a way to distribute it to your engine.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[jeffmsp]

motomaster formula 1 10W30 - nothing i would buy, but free is free.

thanks for the info (drive)


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[speedhawaii]

napa gold is good. i heard teflon is bad for oil filters

[alexlitov]

Also Fram has a sweet filter out, 8 bucks at WalMart. I think it's called Double Protection.

according to a few revies, this and other fram filters are POS

[pdhaudio83]

*reviews

[Rich24km]

puralator :)

[uclap5]

everything ive ever read says teflon is a terrible additive, and that fram makes crap filters.

[mspdfreak]

1.) MSP take 3.7 with new filter.
2.) Teflon sux in new motors.
3.) Fram sux.
4.) Mazda OEM filters are great, but they are 6-8 dollars.

[sickspeed94]

is it a problem that i put 5 quarts in mine? it takes all 5 just fine...

[ARunto]

puralator :)
Same here Puralator Pure One Oil Filter

Mobil1 5w30

-Alan

[sickspeed94]

^^^Bump For My Question, I'm Scared^^^


wow i typed that in all caps and the forum edited it to non caps

[1FASTMSP]

is it a problem that i put 5 quarts in mine? it takes all 5 just fine...YES, i would drain some out...

did you check the level, it should be over the full mark...

[ARunto]

drain it to 4 qts. it's not good to overfill

[pdhaudio83]

WOW. 5 qts. your oil pres level must be dangerously high. drain ASAP and next time only add per manual specs.

[lastsaga]

mazda oem filter. royal purple 10w30

[Yay-Boost]

I had a supercharged VW Corrado and a few people lost engines due to Fram filters blowing the side out. Crappy side wall thickness.

[BOOSTR]

Nothing wrong with a Fram filter. I do not care what some idiot says about them on the internet. I have 3 cars and use Fram filters on them all. Over 426,000 miles driven without any problems relating to my choice of filter. With the exception of a WIX, K&N or other high performance filter, they are all basically the same and do an adequate job of filtering the oil and keeping particles out of your engine. Change your oil and filter often and you should not have a problem.

[mspdfreak]

Nothing wrong with a Fram filter. I do not care what some idiot says about them on the internet. I have 3 cars and use Fram filters on them all. Over 426,000 miles driven without any problems relating to my choice of filter. With the exception of a WIX, K&N or other high performance filter, they are all basically the same and do an adequate job of filtering the oil and keeping particles out of your engine. Change your oil and filter often and you should not have a problem.So, if anyone with an opinion on the internet is an idot, I guess that makes you one, too. Oh, and I don't give s hit what some idiot says about Fram being so good, they still suck ass. They don't filter well...that's why they're $2.50 at WalMart. Do a search. There was an independent test done on several brands...Fram came in dead last in everey category. I'll find the website.

[Black Majik MSP]

So why are you putting no name oil in your car? Is it worth saving a few bucks to do a poor job of protecting your engine & turbo?

[II-Savy]

Dude are you retarded. THE FILTER WAS 8 DOLLARS. They have several price levels. I have the Double Gaurd. It's beefy n sweet.

[mspdfreak]

Here ya go, fram-lovers...

http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

[BOOSTR]

First off, I was not referring to anyone on this forum. I was referring to article that you can find online about oil filters. And no I am not an idiot. I am however very satisfied with Fram Filters and use them confidently on all of my cars.

So you guess wrong you ASSHOLE! Your assumptions are wrong. I never said anything about expressing opinions on the internet. If the filters were truely as bad as one would be led to believe from the likes of you, I would not have the mileage and operational reliabilty that I enjoy now in all three cars.

[mspdfreak]

Dude are you retarded. THE FILTER WAS 8 DOLLARS. They have several price levels. I have the Double Gaurd. It's beefy n sweet.Wow, the double-guard is a double-piece of shit. It's beefy because it's full of teflon, half of which gets pumped throughout your engine, which is no good for newer cars, and half stays in the filter, reducing it's ability to actually FILTER the oil.

[JMS'sMSP]

Come on, read the damn manual for the oil. As for the filter hasnt this been talked about a million times?

Do a search!

[kts153]

i apologize if this is off topic, but does anyone know if there is any advantage to using the OEM filter? i have been doing that since i've owned it by the advice of my dad, but sometimes he's crazy.

[II-Savy]

The double guard wasn't even in the review, what a tool.

[griswold]

Here ya go, fram-lovers...

http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
I'm hardly a die hard fram lover, but lets look at this excerpt from that page.

"What this review is NOT: This review contains no SAE or ASTM test data regarding filtration ability or flow information. This data changes often (as do the filter designs) and in some cases is not even available (publicly) from a manufacturer. If you are interested in actual filtration information, your best option is to review the data yourself (contact the manufacturers) and do your own oil test/analysis (see below). The information presented here is intended solely to help you determine which filter is right for you from the stanpoint of construction. We also hope to have done the "difficult" work for you as you probably don't want to spend the hundreds of dollars and hundreds of hours that we have dissassembling filters. "

They're making educated guesses, about a filters performance, because they cut one in half to look at the construction. Useful? Yeah, sure.

Is this purely scientific and did it include flow and filtration testing? By their own words, no, it did not.

It's a neat website that allows you to draw your own conclusions, but it's hardly the be all and end all of filter tests.

[griswold]

Here ya go, fram-lovers...

http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
Did you even read this website at some point? Looks like all Frams are not created equal. Not like I care, I use mobil 1 filters...

"The FRAM x2 (and only the FRAM x2 Series) is probably the most heavily constructed filter I've seen so far. Though all of the Japanese made filters were of exceptional quality, the Fram x2 was as good in every way. Of note with the construction were the following features: metal screen backing the media, heavy metal end caps (all other Fram filters have cardboard), and 2 layer filter medium. Lab testing indicates this filter is fine at 5000 miles use with Mobil 1. As with all of the Fram filters and OEM Honda oil filters the x2 uses the standard spring loaded plastic by-pass valve that many people do not like. However, lab tests do not indicate that the valve jams or fails to work. It's possible that a hard enough impact at a sharp angle while the filter was by-passing might cause it to jam open, but I suspect the fluid within the filter would prevent this."

[sickspeed94]

well i can't exactly drain any out because myc ar's been at the shop for over a month now getting shit from the insurance company about my accident (they wanna replace everythign with used parts and the car has 8k on the clock), so it may be a while, but i'm due for a change as soon as it's out anyway, so i will do that 3.75-4 qt's