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Crock
08-01-2004, 11:05 PM
Simple question...
If I throw a CAI into my stock MSP setup, how much horsepower to I expect to gain?

jonbig
08-01-2004, 11:14 PM
go to injen/s website, they have msp dyno's there..i think its like 9whp

mattybo
08-02-2004, 01:15 AM
Simple question...
If I throw a CAI into my stock MSP setup, how much horsepower to I expect to gain?

to the wheels? maybe 2-3? Dont believe injen's website they always beef up their numbers.

speedhawaii
08-02-2004, 02:17 AM
^ (werd)

spicynamja
08-02-2004, 04:00 AM
I have to say the difference is 5-8whp. You will feel the gain.

Wha'Happened
08-02-2004, 05:00 AM
man, I seriously didnt notice a gain...it sounds gnarly as hell though :)

Wingman21
08-02-2004, 08:13 AM
You wont gain much peak whp, but you will gain whp on the rest of the curv. So basically you gain more on non-peak spot on the curv, that is how I see the benefit of this mod !!!

Black Majik MSP
08-02-2004, 08:35 AM
Honestly, I haven't heard good things about the Injen despite the fact that 1/3 of the MSP owners on here seem to have it.

iON's CAI gained 29 midrange whp on an MSP with just the iON FMIC.

I'm eager to see how much Perrin's SRI gains.

mspdfreak
08-02-2004, 09:02 AM
Honestly, I haven't heard good things about the Injen despite the fact that 1/3 of the MSP owners on here seem to have it.

iON's CAI gained 29 midrange whp on an MSP with just the iON FMIC.

I'm eager to see how much Perrin's SRI gains.Yeah, I believe that about as far as I can throw it.(blah)

SpeedBeaver
08-02-2004, 09:29 AM
Hi,

In term of hp gains, I didn't noticed a huge change.... but what I noticed most is that the turbo spools at 3000rpm instead of 3500 giving a harder acceleration. Also, having a better air/fuel ratio will give you a slight improvement on your gaz consumption.

(But the best of all is the loudness of the bov after you put the CAI... heads will turn when you shift hard)

chowhoundMSP
08-02-2004, 10:23 AM
I noticed a difference in mine, but I think its due to the fact that i installed my injen, turbohoses, and new sparkplugs all at the same time. I must say I never thought it would make the turkey THAT loud! I think its almost worth the money just for the sound of that whoooooosh followed by the gobble!

rocketspeed
08-02-2004, 10:24 AM
I don't really notice a power difference with the AEM. Sound is much better, though.

SpeedBeaver
08-02-2004, 10:30 AM
I don't really notice a power difference with the AEM. Sound is much better, though.
Have you noticed the rpm your tubo was spooling before and now? Like I said earlier, mine spools 500rpm lower so you get more power a little bit sooner.

Crock
08-02-2004, 12:26 PM
Hi,

Also, having a better air/fuel ratio will give you a slight improvement on your gaz consumption.



That was to be my second question... What kind of improvement will I see in my gas mileage? :)

SaaBaaDoo
08-02-2004, 12:36 PM
helped my mpg, but didn't do much for power.

thunder
08-02-2004, 12:51 PM
There has been so much debate on this.... All the "serious" articles I've read (written by engineers, not by marketing dept.) mention modests gains but nothing like some companies that sell CAI want us to believe. Colder air is more dense, so more power but only to a certain point cuz we are also limited by the compressor inlet (fot N/A engines, an intake -especially dynamic- can make more of a diff.)
Anyways, it all depends on how testing is done which boils down to scientific "honesty". For instance, I was surprized by the dyno sheets that a very reputable company (BMC) is showing with their dynamic carbon intake, they seemed low (about 4-6 HP) compared to the likes on Injen AEM..., but I trust their testing waaaay more (they made filters for the Ferrari F1 winning team). So I figure that about 4-5-6 WHP is what we really get with a CAI, more than that is prolly just a marketing hype IMO

Wingman21
08-02-2004, 01:08 PM
Have you noticed the rpm your tubo was spooling before and now? Like I said earlier, mine spools 500rpm lower so you get more power a little bit sooner.
That was exactly my earlier point... you dont get much gain on the peak WHP but get a much better curve until the peak :) !!!

BOOSTR
08-02-2004, 01:11 PM
It was the 1st mod that I put on. 90% of my driving is on the highway. The INJEN made a big difference in the upper RPM driving range. I love the sound of it as well. Too much is made over the amount of gain! Its not a high hp type of mod. You would be better off on saving your dollars for something else if you want a big gain. I highly recommend the INJEN or any other CAI over the stockbox or adding a panel filter. Thats my opinion based on driving my MSP for 35,300 miles!

celdridge
08-02-2004, 01:11 PM
Simple question...
If I throw a CAI into my stock MSP setup, how much horsepower to I expect to gain?


I have the AEM ... dyno results say about 2.7 - 3 .... you feel nothing different.

Autox MSP
08-02-2004, 02:24 PM
injen definitly lost torque down low so you would have to drive the car harder.

03MSPRO
08-02-2004, 02:57 PM
Honestly, I haven't heard good things about the Injen despite the fact that 1/3 of the MSP owners on here seem to have it.

iON's CAI gained 29 midrange whp on an MSP with just the iON FMIC.

I'm eager to see how much Perrin's SRI gains.
INtakes by them selves don't do much. What's the huge diffence between the Injen and Ion's?

Ion's made so much power because the super restrictive SMIC was removed so the stock air box became the next bottleneck

FSDET
08-02-2004, 04:34 PM
injen definitly lost torque down low so you would have to drive the car harder.
i agree... i believe ull get a better 0-60 time with the stock airbox... by 0.1 of a second tho.. not much diffrence..
3-4 hp=$250
turning head with the mighty turkey= priceless

Crock
08-02-2004, 09:05 PM
3-4 hp=$250
turning head with the mighty turkey= priceless

(lol2) (hear ya)

rocketspeed
08-03-2004, 10:54 AM
Have you noticed the rpm your tubo was spooling before and now? Like I said earlier, mine spools 500rpm lower so you get more power a little bit sooner.
Like I said, I don't notice any improvement in power. That would extend to how quickly the power comes on.

The one area where the CAI might help a little is leaning out the mix a tiny bit if you can draw in a greater volume of air.