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mazda3zoom
07-26-2004, 05:14 PM
do u think that my mazda3 s 5 speed would have a chance racin an acura RSX-s 6speed?

Jpasta
07-26-2004, 05:15 PM
do u think that my mazda3 s 5 speed would have a chance racin an acura RSX-s 6speed?


i have a 4 door, base model and i beat a SVT focus
i have the 5 speed and so did he

Swerny
07-26-2004, 05:19 PM
do u think that my mazda3 s 5 speed would have a chance racin an acura RSX-s 6speed?
Nonestly? No.
Define "racing".

Black Majik MSP
07-26-2004, 05:26 PM
The Type S should win stock & once you factor in mods, it will be plain embarassing. My friend started Team DC5 & most of them are running high to mid 13s. You could counter with HiBoost's turbo kit for the 3, but the RSXs have turbo kits too & they have been making 400hp+ for some time now.

Simple answer: NO

Black Majik MSP
07-26-2004, 05:26 PM
i have a 4 door, base model and i beat a SVT focus
i have the 5 speed and so did he
The SVT Focus is 6spd.

Jpasta
07-26-2004, 05:29 PM
The SVT Focus is 6spd.

i didnt know it was 6 speed, guess i wouldnt know cuz he only hit 4th

03MSP
07-26-2004, 05:35 PM
The Type S should win stock & once you factor in mods, it will be plain embarassing. My friend started Team DC5 & most of them are running high to mid 13s. You could counter with HiBoost's turbo kit for the 3, but the RSXs have turbo kits too & they have been making 400hp+ for some time now.

Simple answer: NO
I agree. I can beat lightly modded RSX Type-S's but my cousin has the CybernationMotorsports turbo kit and holy hell that thing pulls. It put down 311 whp at 9 psi (T3/T4).

Damn Honda engines :)

Black Majik MSP
07-26-2004, 05:43 PM
It's a great tranny actually...made by Getrag. I can't figure out how he lost to you if you have the 2.0L in your 3. :confused:

Black Majik MSP
07-26-2004, 05:48 PM
I agree. I can beat lightly modded RSX Type-S's but my cousin has the CybernationMotorsports turbo kit and holy hell that thing pulls. It put down 311 whp at 9 psi (T3/T4).

Damn Honda engines :)
They have 2 CN RSXs in Team DC5 & Jean's put down 375whp: http://teamdc5.com/jean.html

gboromsp
07-26-2004, 05:52 PM
I can run with most of the all motor rsx-s's, but if the have a jrsc or turbo kit i'm finished. I'm running high 13's in the quarter so I doubt you'll be able to keep up with them.

blizz81
07-26-2004, 06:31 PM
You would need a fair amount of mods and a favorable driver skill differential to beat a stock type S in a drag race.

You would need FI or one helluva built motor to walk a type-S with bolt-ons + hondata ecu on the strip.

3.5titanuimSD
07-26-2004, 07:45 PM
No.... just no

fam
07-26-2004, 07:51 PM
No.... just no

I should kept my stang for the drag race wars in this forum, (in a straight line an rsx is sad) but I didnt buy the 3 for a drag race, an rsx isnt a drag car either, they r fun track cars, dont race them in a straight line in public!

goldwing2000
07-26-2004, 08:05 PM
Haven't we already covered this?

Yeah. Here:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74233

Jpasta
07-26-2004, 09:28 PM
It's a great tranny actually...made by Getrag. I can't figure out how he lost to you if you have the 2.0L in your 3. :confused:

bad driver?

MZ3_GS
07-26-2004, 10:49 PM
Like everyone has said already no....

Does anyone have 0-60 and 1/4 mile times for a stock MAzda3 Sedan with the 2 liter?

Mazda3ofKent
07-26-2004, 11:10 PM
I should kept my stang for the drag race wars in this forum, (in a straight line an rsx is sad) but I didnt buy the 3 for a drag race, an rsx isnt a drag car either, they r fun track cars, dont race them in a straight line in public!

yeah the 3 turns good and looks cool, but is far from a dragracer

fam
07-27-2004, 01:27 AM
i have a 4 door, base model and i beat a SVT focus
i have the 5 speed and so did he


And here I thought I had finally bought my 1st grown up car after the stangs! No race comparos in a straight line, its like comparing a steak to how it looks when u crap it out, doesnt matter, its the taste originally (not after :P) Around a race track our cars would be fun, more fun than my mustang thatd be alll over the road squeelin tires and body role, Appreciate the refined car that you have, I do every day. Every1 at works loves riding with me on my lunch breaks because of the PimP White MazdA 3(not rally white, its a special Toledo OHio gheto edition)

Black Majik MSP
07-27-2004, 01:40 AM
I should kept my stang for the drag race wars in this forum, (in a straight line an rsx is sad) but I didnt buy the 3 for a drag race, an rsx isnt a drag car either, they r fun track cars, dont race them in a straight line in public!
Sorry, but you're a big Fing noob if you think that the RSX-S isn't a straight line performance car. It's obvious that you've never visited ClubRSX or else you would know that they have guys in the 13s, 12s, & 11s. (chair)

If you still disagree, I can have one of the founding members of Team DC5 explain it to you in detail.

fam
07-27-2004, 07:26 AM
note to ricers: You can make any car run fast if you put enough money into it
With that in consideration its pointless to talk about comparisons when you r heavily modding one car
IN any stock comparison, rsxs are junk for 1/4 miles etc, if you dont believe me, go to any american drag strip! :-) (laugh)

Ive been in both worlds and spanked many rsxs and ricers in general, and im saying take these cars to a road course not a drag strip.

jflo
07-27-2004, 07:33 AM
funny thing is that you throw a CAI on a RSX-S, and they're mid-high 14s already. WTF

but damn, you've gotta be really creative to stand out in the RSX crowd. i'm figuring, the same thing will be with the scion tC, since body kits and engine modification is already on tap.

splitvizion
07-27-2004, 09:09 AM
there isn't a chance in hell. The RSX type-S runs with the crowd of MSP, and Integra type-R, Dodge SRT-4. We are a little aout of our league. I had the MSP and raced a type-S. It was a drivers race.

harrison888
07-27-2004, 02:22 PM
do u think that my mazda3 s 5 speed would have a chance racin an acura RSX-s 6speed?

no, but if you are talking about the base RSX, then it will be a fair race.

Black Majik MSP
07-27-2004, 02:44 PM
note to ricers: You can make any car run fast if you put enough money into it
With that in consideration its pointless to talk about comparisons when you r heavily modding one car
IN any stock comparison, rsxs are junk for 1/4 miles etc, if you dont believe me, go to any american drag strip! :-) (laugh)

Ive been in both worlds and spanked many rsxs and ricers in general, and im saying take these cars to a road course not a drag strip.
You're an idiot. (hand)

dulog
07-27-2004, 03:04 PM
do u think that my mazda3 s 5 speed would have a chance racin an acura RSX-s 6speed?

I'll put my money on the RSX-S. Then again it depends what you mean by racing and since things are vague people can come up with crazy rules like -- it's a race to the grocery store and back driven by each persons grandmother, or Mazda3 gets $5200 worth of mods to compensate for the difference in invoice price while the RSX-S stays stock.

I think that other thread mentioned wasn't about a race, it was more about which car to would be better to buy all around between a base RSX and a 3s.

maitai92
07-27-2004, 05:25 PM
Like everyone has said already no....

Does anyone have 0-60 and 1/4 mile times for a stock MAzda3 Sedan with the 2 liter?
Most tests I've seen, the 2 liter mazda3 will do mid to hi 8 sec to 60 and High 16s on 1/4 mile. Its not that far along from P5s.

Focus SVT- 0-60 7.1 sec 1/4 15.3 @ 90mph
RSX-Type S 0-60 6.8 sec 1/4 15.1 @ 91mph

fam
07-27-2004, 05:27 PM
You're an idiot. (hand)


Why am I the idiot here? If you take an RSX and run a 14 in a quarter im sorry but im gonna laught at you. You can get pissed off all you want over my comments but im not loading you a bunch of bull like some of the ricerboys might. If it makes you feel better I will tell you what you came in this forum to troll about and hear:
"The RSX is da faztiss car ever made in production. The carbun Fiber hood makes like 200rwhp and when I turn the radio off, the power really kicks in and i beat an 03 cobra and a z06 before I had to shut it off at 200"

Now for the truth:
RSX will probably win, but considering its so FUGLY you walk away the winner because U were smart enough to buy something that didnt scream "Im an 18 year old virgin who lives with my parents, check me out ladies!"

Mazda3ofKent
07-27-2004, 11:00 PM
THE RSX and the Mazda 3 or not strightline racers at heart, but you can make them into anything u want

speedhawaii
07-30-2004, 06:24 PM
nfw

fam
07-30-2004, 08:46 PM
if u invest enough time and money in a ford festiva, youd have a really fast ford festiva!

yac2727
07-30-2004, 10:59 PM
if u invest enough time and money in a ford festiva, youd have a really fast ford festiva!
I want a fast ford festiva!!!! (blah)

fam
07-31-2004, 01:45 AM
(boom01) Hmmmm, I sure hope not! I like power steering too much for that!

MZ3_GS
07-31-2004, 02:35 AM
Fiestiva with Taurus SHO engine, it's been done.

fam
07-31-2004, 12:26 PM
Fiestiva with Taurus SHO engine, it's been done.
The mazda made 6 banger (turbo or sc not sure) or the v8?

r1ceburner
08-03-2004, 10:55 PM
The mazda made 6 banger (turbo or sc not sure) or the v8?

If you are refering to the V-6 or V-8 engines in the Taurus SHO, they were both built by Yamaha, not Mazda. Neither the V-6 nor the V-8 were ever factory turboed or supercharged.

MZ3_GS
08-04-2004, 09:21 AM
the 3.0/3.2 V6.

and yes the V6 was a yamaha engine but i'm certain that the v8 was fords product from the crown vic.

goldwing2000
08-04-2004, 09:27 AM
The crown vic V8 is a 4.6L. The SHO V8 is a 3.4L. Definitely Yamaha.

http://www.v8sho.com/SHO/shodesc.html

Replica
08-04-2004, 09:28 AM
Why am I the idiot here? If you take an RSX and run a 14 in a quarter im sorry but im gonna laught at you. You can get pissed off all you want over my comments but im not loading you a bunch of bull like some of the ricerboys might. If it makes you feel better I will tell you what you came in this forum to troll about and hear:
"The RSX is da faztiss car ever made in production. The carbun Fiber hood makes like 200rwhp and when I turn the radio off, the power really kicks in and i beat an 03 cobra and a z06 before I had to shut it off at 200"

Now for the truth:
RSX will probably win, but considering its so FUGLY you walk away the winner because U were smart enough to buy something that didnt scream "Im an 18 year old virgin who lives with my parents, check me out ladies!"Wow. So...a Mazda economy car that looks like a bubble is "cooler" than a low-end luxuory car that has a huge road race history? If you're implying an RSX-S is a "baller on a budget" it costs more than a Mazda3.

Mazda3ofKent
08-04-2004, 12:33 PM
Wow. So...a Mazda economy car that looks like a bubble is "cooler" than a low-end luxuory car that has a huge road race history? If you're implying an RSX-S is a "baller on a budget" it costs more than a Mazda3.

I think so. Beside cant see speending all that money on an RSX when the SRT-4 is faster, but I like the look and the feal of the Mazda 3 and the price was right

Replica
08-04-2004, 12:35 PM
I think so. Beside cant see speending all that money on an RSX when the SRT-4 is faster, but I like the look and the feal of the Mazda 3 and the price was rightI thought the same thing too until I test drove an RSX-S and LOVED how refined it was. The SRT-4 was great, and would definately be worth the money, but i'm so sold on the "honda-ness" of the RSX-S.

Black Majik MSP
08-04-2004, 12:40 PM
Why am I the idiot here? If you take an RSX and run a 14 in a quarter im sorry but im gonna laught at you. You can get pissed off all you want over my comments but im not loading you a bunch of bull like some of the ricerboys might. If it makes you feel better I will tell you what you came in this forum to troll about and hearI've been a member for a year now...the only person acting like a troll is you.


Now for the truth:
RSX will probably win, but considering its so FUGLY you walk away the winner because U were smart enough to buy something that didnt scream "Im an 18 year old virgin who lives with my parents, check me out ladies!"This is further proof that you're an idiot. If you don't like the RSX, that's your opinion & I can respect that, but crap like this is just plain stupid. There are quite a few RSXs that look as good or better than any car on here & a lot of them are faster too.

Replica
08-04-2004, 12:42 PM
The 3 and RSX-S aren't even the same class of car....I drove a few 3's at Rev-itup and test drove 3 RSX-S's over the last few months. Sorry, but that RSX-S is just a better car. I really don't understand fam's comments either.

Black Majik MSP
08-04-2004, 12:43 PM
The mazda made 6 banger (turbo or sc not sure) or the v8?
Considering how much you love your stang, I would think you'd know more about Ford than that.

Replica
08-04-2004, 12:45 PM
Right, it was Yamaha, and FASTER than the V-8 sho that came out with the later generation Taurus. Also, the V-8 in the taurus was tiny.

TampaBlackMSP
08-04-2004, 02:03 PM
RSX's are smooth, refined, reliable, and uh, oh yeah...BORING. I don't care how fast you make it, they don't have any friggin' character - the ones I've either driven or ridden in make me feel like I'm in an appliance. Sorry, I'll pass. Just my opinion - now, in typical forum fashion, I'm expecting flames (or flamers I should say) - go ahead, I don't care.

They typify what most Japanese cars are all about (see above adjectives), and for the most part, not to my liking.

But then again, a nice turbo setup and low et's are always a good thing - the car just wouldn't be my first choice - now to answer the original post question...no. hehe.. :D

Replica
08-04-2004, 02:05 PM
And that's a great response, it just isn't the car for you. :)

TampaBlackMSP
08-04-2004, 02:17 PM
Yup. I mean, nope! (smoke)

Mazda3ofKent
08-05-2004, 12:06 AM
I thought the same thing too until I test drove an RSX-S and LOVED how refined it was. The SRT-4 was great, and would definately be worth the money, but i'm so sold on the "honda-ness" of the RSX-S.
Yeah the RSX is refined and a great car, but it not doing anything new, its just another fast honda. Thats cool and everything but I like to see something new and diffrent like the 3

Krunko
08-05-2004, 03:51 AM
No...our Mazda 3's are slow. Great car though.

r1ceburner
08-05-2004, 10:27 AM
No...our Mazda 3's are slow. Great car though.

I don't think that anyone is expecting Z06 speed from an $18,000 car. (16 year old forum members, excluded).... Acura is a luxury brand and Mazda is a value brand. A more appropriate comparison would be between a Honda Civic and a Mazda3. My younger brother has a Civic Si and it is nimble, but gutless. The body styling is government-issue blah..... Just my opinion, though.

MZ3_GS
08-05-2004, 12:52 PM
The crown vic V8 is a 4.6L. The SHO V8 is a 3.4L. Definitely Yamaha.

http://www.v8sho.com/SHO/shodesc.html


My bad (sssh)

fam
08-05-2004, 04:01 PM
Considering how much you love your stang, I would think you'd know more about Ford than that.
I had plenty of stangs when I was 18-24, do you think I cared what they put in the 1st generation Taurus? I knew it was japanese made and I guessed mazda because of the ford partnership. My beliefs of what kind of boy drives an RSX stands to this day based on the people I see driving it vs what kind of person they show in the rsx commercial (mid 20s moving up corporate ladder). Im sorry that you think im a moron. I could care less what you think. All I did was stick up for a Mazda3 in a Mazda3 forum in a biassed comparo that was of no significance when you compare them in a straight line and thats it. I like these forums because the mazda 3 people are humble and that was a nice change from svtperformance.com where 14 second qtr miles (as was stated was possible if you put an exhaust etc on an RSX) will get you laughed at. I love my Mazda for what it is, not what i can make it to be or dream of it being, I guess its a part of getting older.

accampbe
08-05-2004, 08:28 PM
Now if we were to compare the RSX non-Type S and the Mazda 3 GT then we would have something to talk about. And yes I would take the Mazda 3 (I did). But when we add 40HP and talk about the 200HP RSX Type S I gotta take the speed. The handling felt great and it was an amazing ride. Saying that I was disappointed with the interior look and feel of the RSX and considering the large investment that a car is I do look carefully at every aspect including the interior.

Final Conclusion:

Rent an RSX and drive the hell out of it... or borrow your friends (I did)
Buy a Mazda 3 GT and enjoy the wonderful refinement and the amazing deal that this car is.

cheers eh

accampbe
08-05-2004, 08:32 PM
I don't think that anyone is expecting Z06 speed from an $18,000 car. (16 year old forum members, excluded).... Acura is a luxury brand and Mazda is a value brand. A more appropriate comparison would be between a Honda Civic and a Mazda3. My younger brother has a Civic Si and it is nimble, but gutless. The body styling is government-issue blah..... Just my opinion, though.

Acura is a luxury brand but leaves the luxury out of the RSX. I like the car... a lot. But luxury would imply an expensive well thought out interior. And Acura failed at this with the RSX. All other models have georgous interiors from what I have seen.

fam
08-05-2004, 09:04 PM
Im not doubting the acura is a fast car (compared to 4 cyl), but get an S with leather, your base price is 23,300! That my friends, is within 1700 of a rx8 (25k starting) so theres where your comparo shall start (and end rx8s are nice)

Mazda3ofKent
08-05-2004, 09:22 PM
Im not doubting the acura is a fast car (compared to 4 cyl), but get an S with leather, your base price is 23,300! That my friends, is within 1700 of a rx8 (25k starting) so theres where your comparo shall start (and end rx8s are nice)

I am going to go out on the limb here,but the RX8 is not that exciting to drive to me it was missing something, that the P5, 3, and Protege have

fam
08-05-2004, 10:47 PM
I am going to go out on the limb here,but the RX8 is not that exciting to drive to me it was missing something, that the P5, 3, and Protege have
if you have broadband, do yourself a favor and watch this video of the rx8 on top gear!
http://www.flixvault.org/topgear_video/078.zip

Mazda3ofKent
08-08-2004, 11:03 PM
if you have broadband, do yourself a favor and watch this video of the rx8 on top gear!
http://www.flixvault.org/topgear_video/078.zip

I drive one and it was fast, but it lacked the fun to driveness of the Mazda MX-5, Protege, and the Mazda 3

fam
08-09-2004, 11:36 PM
I drive one and it was fast, but it lacked the fun to driveness of the Mazda MX-5, Protege, and the Mazda 3
Well the owner of the china buffet gave me a free drink cuz I let him look at my car, Lol, he knew everything about the car already! General Tso and crab rangoon rule!

Mazda3ofKent
08-10-2004, 03:20 PM
Well the owner of the china buffet gave me a free drink cuz I let him look at my car, Lol, he knew everything about the car already! General Tso and crab rangoon rule!
what no sweet and sour chicken ?!!

fam
08-13-2004, 12:08 AM
what no sweet and sour chicken ?!!
Sweet and Sour is good on the crab rangoon! I think I could eat chinese every day for the rest of my life, with one day a week for papa johns.