2003 PR5 roofrack? [Archive]

Todd

09-12-2002, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by ronjon
I got this from another thread on the boards- "Pictures of laser blue 2003 inside... "

http://www.emkayusa.net/photo/random/2003p501.jpg

Ron O.

That car has a St Catharines dealer plate thingy. Im from Toronto and St Catherines is near here. My point is Canadian P5 dont have the roof racks, so we cant judge the USA P5 with that photo ;)

ronjon

09-12-2002, 03:22 PM

Oooh... did'nt know Canadian cars were different- thanks.

-Ron O

eMKay

09-12-2002, 04:20 PM

I'll just confirm, I took the pics in Canada and they do not have roof racks, US versions do (I need a roof rack so yay!)

ph0enixrising

09-12-2002, 04:31 PM

The roof rack looks nice for this type of car, but I wish it had been an option on US cars. I will most likely never use it, and could have done without it, but Mazda has made it a bitch to completely take off (rails and all) I'd do it if it were something easily done, and from the outside only.

HS8

09-12-2002, 06:59 PM

so canada will not get a roof rack anymore?

DeXX

09-12-2002, 07:30 PM

canadian ones never had them

ph0enixrising

09-12-2002, 07:42 PM

Yeah, Canadian P5's don't come standard with one, but you can add it as an option, though it's not the same as the US roof rack.

Jim Frye

09-12-2002, 07:45 PM

Are roof racks on cars illegal in the Great White North? I find it a tad strange that a manufacturer would go to the trouble to make the vehicle that much different if there wasn't a law involved. Or is it an import law that makes the rackless P5 cheaper (or more expensive). The Subaru Brat was able to beat truck import laws by having a pair of plastic seats bolted in the bed, thus making it a car instead of a truck. Jim

Todd

09-13-2002, 09:32 AM

Roof racks are not illegal in Canada. I have no idea why our p5s dont come with them, but I am happy that they dont.

ArkosP5

12-29-2002, 11:51 AM

Does anyone have a picture of the optional canadian roof racks?

Don

12-29-2002, 09:01 PM

Are the 2003 racks the same as the original (and just as noisy)?

I love the rack, and use it every month, but I sure wish it would SHUT UP at freeway speeds, especially on a long drive - Mazda sure "missed the boat" when engineering the one I have.

Don

AbbyVonNormal

12-29-2002, 09:19 PM

I have an 03. The racks appear to be the same as the other models.
I Test drove it without the racks. Dealer said they dont put them on because of the wind noise during test drives.
So the next day i put the racks on & drove on the highway.
ya...its noisy. Especially when i hit 80..thats when the whistle starts!! It's also when the music gets turned up, so i hear nothing! .
8^)

JrTekSilverP5

12-29-2002, 11:19 PM

how do i take it off is the ???!!!!!

mkishon

01-06-2003, 11:41 AM

the US roof rack comes standard but its highly incompatible with most Thule/Yakima accesories, making it virtually useless. In Canada, although the rack is not standard, the one that cam be fitted is Made by Thule and therefore you can use most acessories. You'd think Mazda designers lived in a cave for the past 15 yrs not making a roof rack adaptable to THule/YAkima.

Sir Nuke

01-06-2003, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by JrTekSilverP5
how do i take it off is the ???!!!!!

its simple.....if you are wanting to take off the uprights and the cross bars.....just look in your manual...the instructions are in there...

to give you the readers digest version.....look at the rack where it attaches to the rail...there is a HOLE in the plastic piece...there is a screw in the bottom of that hole...remove that screw and the plastic cover comes off of that upright....then it exposes the screws that holds the upright to the rain on the roof....remove the screws and then remove the rack from the roof....

then you take the pieces that came with your car and snap them in place and it covers the hole where the rack was removed....and makes the total rail look smoothe from front to back.

Humvee

01-06-2003, 12:54 PM

I'll post pics later tonight of the CDN roof racks. I have them for my bikes/canoe.

JrTekSilverP5

01-06-2003, 01:42 PM

what i meant was... HOW DO U TAKE OFF THE BLACK PIECES THAT HOLD UP THE ROOF RACK???? i want it to look like a canadian P5...

JrTekSilverP5

01-06-2003, 01:43 PM

the rails... i wanna take um off to look like this
http://www.emkayusa.net/photo/random/2003p501.jpg

Sir Nuke

01-06-2003, 01:45 PM

there is a how-to that someone did....hmmmmm but it requires you to do a LOT of work....requires you to guy those pieces which are canadian...but you can get them through a US mazda dealer...just have to order them...its been done.....and you have to remove your entire headliner to do the job too....

let me look around and find the link to the site.....it has pics and all....very good tutorial.

Sir Nuke

01-06-2003, 01:47 PM

found it....wasn't as hard to find as I thought..lol

FULL factory roof rack removal procedure....pics and all (http://www.geocities.com/shareafile/index.html)

Don

01-06-2003, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by Sir Nuke

its simple.....if you are wanting to take off the uprights and the cross bars.....just look in your manual...the instructions are in there...

There is no mention of the roof rack in the owners manuals which came with the early US versions of the car - No drawings of the car WITH the rack, let alone any instructions on how to remove it. Not even a "Roof Rack" in the index at the back of the manual.

Don

shawnthemonster

01-06-2003, 02:15 PM

i live in seattle and i was wondering if any body from canada wanted to trade us roof racks for their canadian non-roof rack peices?

ArkosP5

01-06-2003, 02:45 PM

I got the roof rails for Christmas

Did the entire install in about 2-3 hours by myself (accompanied by an oil change).

The hardest part is getting the headliner out (obviously).

The front a-pillers just pull out (3 snaps and a little tab at the bottom).

The b-pillars require a bit more. The cover on the seat belt just pulls out (it doesn't seem like it will go, but just pull). Then there is a big 10mm(?) nut that holds the belt to the slide, it's easiest to remove these. I ended up removing one, then jimmying out the headliner, but I really didn't want to mess with the seat belts too much.

The c-pillars were like 6 clips, and some pegs. I ended up losing one of the metal clips, so be careful when you pull it out.

Other than that, the two sunvisors (3 screws total), the map lights (pull out), the dome light (2 screws), and all the Oh $ht handles (two screws each).

There are also three of those plastic retainer clips along the back edge of the headliner.

Pull all these out, there are 4 bolts (I think the website says 5) pull on the roof rails, and it just pops out.

Sir Nuke

01-06-2003, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Don

There is no mention of the roof rack in the owners manuals which came with the early US versions of the car - No drawings of the car WITH the rack, let alone any instructions on how to remove it. Not even a "Roof Rack" in the index at the back of the manual.

Don

this is TRUE.....this was discovered some time ago....and discussed.....and I scanned the pages and posted them....here is the thread

http://forum.protegemp3.com/vbb222/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7614&highlight=roof+rack

Sir Nuke

01-06-2003, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by ArkosP5
and all the Oh $ht handles (two screws each).

since you mentioned these......did you get the DELUX ones?

the ones pictured here?

http://www.sirnuke.com/ohpoop.jpg

Don

01-06-2003, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by Sir Nuke

this is TRUE.....this was discovered some time ago....and discussed.....and I scanned the pages and posted them....here is the thread

http://forum.protegemp3.com/vbb222/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7614&highlight=roof+rack

But . . . . You're STILL telling folks to go look in the manual :confused:

Don

Sir Nuke

01-06-2003, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Don

But . . . . You're STILL telling folks to go look in the manual :confused:

Don

YEP....sure enough.....and if the post would have stated...

"I went all through my manual...and its not in there anywhere....can someone help"...

the original post would have been different...

its a fact that the MAJORITY of all drivers RARELY EVER look at their manuals for ANYTHING.....they somewhat forget that they are even in the glove box, and many don't have a clue as to what sort of information is in there........

Humvee

01-06-2003, 09:52 PM

For those that wanted to see the CDN roof rack. There 4 plastic covers on roof. Just pop those off and these just bolt right on. On and off in about 5 minutes.

Humvee

01-06-2003, 09:53 PM

another

Humvee

01-06-2003, 09:54 PM

one day I'll read the thread on posting pics in-line...

yellowp5boi

01-06-2003, 10:07 PM

Here is my 2002 with the factory roofracks... Canadian Version (canada)
http://members.shaw.ca/jeff_orr/DSCF0004.JPG

mxzoom

01-07-2003, 11:10 AM

hey nice to see some guys here from canada . hey yellowp5boi
and humvee how much did you pay for your roof racks?and how do you find em for utiltity wise. I got a new addition comin to the family in june and i figure i m gonna need one of these things.:D :D

BSN_mt

01-07-2003, 12:13 PM

here is my p5 with the yakima rack on the qtowers. fits ok, but the antena is in a bad spot and I need to push the box forward about a 1/2 inch to clear the spoiler.

http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/Sir Nuke/carside1.jpg

Humvee

01-07-2003, 12:47 PM

I like mine just fine. I thnk the dealer charged me $300.00 or so. They aren't wide enough for a canoe, but I just jimmy-ied up my old thule bars and top of the mazda ones and they work fine. For just bikes they work great. Of course, they're loud with the sunroof open, but otherwise not a big deal. I only put mine on when I need them.

ArkosP5

01-07-2003, 12:49 PM

That's the first time I've ever gotten a Canadian to take those pictures, and I wanted to say thank you.

Now, ... if possible, could you take a picture of the "nut" end of the roof rack? i.e. remove the 4 small pieces, and take a picture of what's underneath them?

The american version (obviously) doesn't have ANYTHING under the four holes, and I wanted to see what all else I'm going to need.

ArkosP5

01-07-2003, 12:51 PM

Another question: Is that a different set of towers in the second picture?

BSN_mt

01-07-2003, 01:20 PM

The second picture is a different car, sorry about the confussion, that and american p5. you can see the factory rails under the box.

Humvee

01-07-2003, 06:40 PM

Roof rack "nut" cover:

Humvee

01-07-2003, 06:42 PM

roof rack "nut". Actually, the bolt screws in, then the plastic thing follows the screw down and tightens it down. (that made no sense, but if you saw it, you'd understand) no tools required.

yellowp5boi

01-08-2003, 12:27 AM

I believe they were about $300 canadian. They are huge and fit any Thule or Yakima box/ski rack. Only complaint is the noise with the sunroof open, above 40 mph it is almost deafening!

REMillers

01-08-2003, 12:47 PM

Roof rack was extrememly easy to take off, only about 5 minutes and from the outside. And they do create a good amount of window noise, kinda of a negative result of placing a rail right over the sunroof. Notice on some other cars that the front rail is set little back from the sunroof.

LovemyProtege

02-24-2003, 04:17 PM

How hard is it to take off the roof rack completley and whoud i have to get anything painted afterwards. Also where can I pick up one of those canadian racks

WaatDaHell

02-25-2003, 03:26 AM

Originally posted by Sir Nuke

YEP....sure enough.....and if the post would have stated...

"I went all through my manual...and its not in there anywhere....can someone help"...

the original post would have been different...

its a fact that the MAJORITY of all drivers RARELY EVER look at their manuals for ANYTHING.....they somewhat forget that they are even in the glove box, and many don't have a clue as to what sort of information is in there........

I know it's been a while since you guys posted your quotes but at least I have an answer to your question. It's not in the manual like you said. However, when you purchased a US Model P5, you were supposed to receive a copy of the "Roof Rack Manual." It's separate from the Owner's manual that's why you can find it in there. And regarding 2003.5 models, eventhough the salesmen refuse to state "2003.5," the roof rack is now a stand-alone accessory. The P5 comes without the roof rack, but it can be requested. The salesman said that there's no price difference, but the Mazdausa.com site states that it's about $225 I believe to get the Roof Rack now. They need to educate their own people within their company to know what their selling because it's pathetic how much they know of their products. Anyway, if you want the roof rack, it now comes with a rubber piece wit jagged edges in front of the front crossbar to reduce wind noise. From what I heard, it's a huge difference.

chuyler1

03-03-2003, 02:02 PM

They just switched over to the 2003.5 as you put it. I got alot of info about it from my sales rep. Because everyone complained about the roof rack making too much noise, all 2003.5s still come with it, but the cross beams are not installed by default. The dealer will put them on for you if you ask, but only if you agree not to complain about the wind noise if you are chosen for The JD Pwr Assoc. survey.

Furthermore, 2004 will NOT have the roof rack option at all. The roof rack is the only reason why the car isn't getting a perfect score from JD Pwr so they are giving it the axe...thanks to all the people who didn't listen to their dealer and complained about it anyway.

A roof rack causes wind noise...its a fact. Anyone who skis knows this. There is no way around it. The roof rack on a $40K Tahoe has the same problem. Get used to it or take it off.

ck_cols

03-07-2003, 11:17 AM

Just picked up my P5 from the dealership on Monday. The deal w/the roof rack is that they are now all coming in w/o them. Before, you either got a roof rack or a subwoofer standard. If you got the rack, the subwoofer was $250 to add, if you got the sub, the rack was $250 to add. Now, they are all coming in with the sub only.

chuyler1

03-07-2003, 11:19 AM

How does that sub sound btw? I want to add bass to my car but I'm not sure I want to go all out just yet. I've got equipment but most of it won't fit w/o taking up a lot of space.

ck_cols

03-07-2003, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by chuyler1
How does that sub sound btw? I want to add bass to my car but I'm not sure I want to go all out just yet. I've got equipment but most of it won't fit w/o taking up a lot of space.

I don't have it in mine, but when I went in to pick it up, they had cleaned up one with a sub in it by accident. I got in it and gave it a listen....made me want to add it before I drove off (I didn't though). The thing is round and sits in the inside of the spare in under the spare cover. Pretty good place for it.