Help me out....

[MSP-Ralfi]

Hey i own a yellow msp protege 2003.5 i just got my custom boost gauge and turbo timer installed under my radio...looks nice ;) anyways....i just wanted to know like everyone opinion....i wanna start buying things and working on my car to up the performace...up the boost and u know....make it faster....what mods should i do....downpipe? which down pipe ? what else should i do....just give me all ur advice on everything u would do and the best products u tihnk....i have all the money ready just want everyone opinion.... thanks

Ralfi

[Striker187]

question is, how fast do u wanna go and how much are you willing to spend to get there?

[MSP-Ralfi]

question is, how fast do u wanna go and how much are you willing to spend to get there?

How fast do i wanna go...well from what i heard on our size turbo the most u SHOULD boost is around 15 psi ? any higher isnt that good on that little turbo(so ive heard let me know if not)...i just wanna get like the most i can from the turbo and get it as fast as i can.....and the money im working ive saved around 3000 dollars already and im ready to start working on the car....

[Little Beavis]

FMIC and complete exhaust and fuel management. . .that covers the $3000! Whew, that was easy! (I love spending other people's money!)

[Striker187]

the t25 looses efficiency around 15 psi or so i think so that's about right. if you want reliable, build the motor up. replace the pistons, rings, and rods with stronger ones. i think most people will agree that the rods are the weak point. then you'll have a strong starting base to build off of. you'll most definitely want some kind of fuel management, standalone or otherwise. and then of course, the basic bolt-ons (i.e. full exhaust, intake, fmic, plugs, wires, etc.). you may also want to get larger injectors and a larger fuel pump. you'll prolly need to up the clutch and/or flywheel to handle the extra power. and depending on how much torque you're pushing and if you go to the strip regularly, upgraded axles. of course there's safety options as well, larger radiator, upgraded fans, knock sensor, appropriate gauges, maybe an oil catch tank. the list is endless......just remember, hp doesn't come cheap. if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

[Striker187]

oh, then there's discreet's way........fmic, midpipe w/cutout, intake, electronic boost controller set to 15-18 psi daily, 21psi for the track, and a mix of race gas+pump gas. how his motor is still in one piece, i do not know. i'm amazed :). extremely fast? hell yeah. do i recommend? i prefer to err on the side of caution so no.

[Little Beavis]

Don't forget about Discreet's turbo mod as well.

Get yourself a good FMIC to start with. Heck if Ion's claim of 15 whp (or whatever is true), then it is not only safer, but adds a chunk of power. Good place to start regardless of what you're doing. Exhaust too. The above advice is great, but will cost you much more than $3000. . .but if you're going all out, I agree you should go down that path then. A little extra oomph. . .well. . .you know.

[Striker187]

^^^^
haha, yeah, more like $10,000

discreet's turbo mod? which mod is this? i remember when i rode in his car way back when, it was definitely in the mid 13's and what i listed was all the performance mods he had done.

[MSP-Ralfi]

And what do u guys suggest for the FMIC the only two ive seen for our car is the Ion and the Hiboost...which one ??

[Striker187]

i think essential speed has one as well. i like ion's the best though. that's the one i will go with whenever i get around to it.

[MSP-Ralfi]

And where can i find the Ion one at ???

[Striker187]

they're here on the boards. you can try sending them a pm. or emailing them. i forget their email address but i think you can find it at their incomplete website: www.ionperformance.com (http://www.ionperformance.com)

[jred321]

FMIC and complete exhaust and fuel management. . .that covers the $3000! Whew, that was easy! (I love spending other people's money!)(mswerd) a boost controller too, depending on the ems



i'd go with the hiboost fmic personally

[RX-KEVIN]

I spent about 400 dollars and I went 14.05 @102 in street trim

[speedhawaii]

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