Cold Air Intakes: ATX vs. MTX

[Loose]

Ok, sorry if this has been out there already but I gotta ask it. I purschused an AEM CAI for my 3. It is currently on backorder from Ptuning.

My question is, in installing a CAI does it matter if the car is an auto or stick? The reason I asked is that I looked at my car and at some of the installs on this page and most (if not all) were sticks. I have the ATX and am worried I should cancel my order. Anyone....Anyone...Bueler....Bueler......

[ArchAngelRacer]

i don't think it should dude. The mechanics are all the same for that part of the car. i got the automatic yesterday and compaired the intake with a buddys 3 stick and they are exactly the same. It shouldn't be a problem. Sorry if i end up being wrong but have only had the car since last night and i'm already tearing it apart. But really it shoudn't unless the intake in this car is computerized or some weird s**t like that.

[Fobby_Monkey]

you are wrong.

The intake will be in the way of a bolt on the ATX. AEM is currently working on the issue. It will "fit" with slight modification.

[Loose]

you are wrong.

The intake will be in the way of a bolt on the ATX. AEM is currently working on the issue. It will "fit" with slight modification.

Slight modification? Should I cancel my order?

[El Ropo]

Slight modification? Should I cancel my order?

Yes, either that, or invest in lots of wire ties lol.

[bvmazda3]

Slight modification? Should I cancel my order?

Heyas...

A couple people have reported the 'bolt-in-the-way' problem, but they seemed to have just used zap-straps to alleviate the rubbing.

Check out http://**********************/viewtopic.php?t=7140 and evilezekiel's cardomain page http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/579894/3

~Bart~

edit: added link

[Loose]

order canceled. Thanx all.

Tim

[Loose]

To answer some questions that have arised, AEM CAI is now specified for the "manual transmission only". Injen has listed part numbers (RD6061P or RD6061BLK) "for all Mazda3 2.3L." Whether this is for both transmission types, I am not sure. I will try and contact the company for more info. They aren't the most "phone friendly" company.

As for now, all of us "losers" with the auto-stick will just have to wait for AEM to get off of thier collective asses and built use a CAI "for all Mazda3 2.3L." (glare)

[Da 6]

man that sux...the tranny if setup anything the same sholdn't have interfeared. Nayone have a picture of where the culprit screw is? we didn't face these problems with the 6...


edit...I se it now...your intake bends inside by the tranny wher ars hoes durectly into the fender. from the picts I saw the intake sits rught on the return line of the atx ad that ant good...one is gonna give. AEM had a problem with the intakes on the 2nd gen neaons the metal intake was runbbing the plastic splashgard and the intake wore a hole and the plastic splashguard hand minor surface scratches. I'm gonna bet the bolt will wear a hole in the intake if not covered...I'll post picts of what I mean when I say it never touches near the tranny for us..

[Loose]

man that sux...the tranny if setup anything the same sholdn't have interfeared. Nayone have a picture of where the culprit screw is? we didn't face these problems with the 6...
Sucks, doesn't it.

[Da 6]

Sucks, doesn't it. yes it does...looks like they didn't test a atx...also here is where our pipe leaves the engine bay...where our maf is...is where your intake is already going down?
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/373000-373999/373599_143.jpg
where is the battery located again...was that an issue as of why it made that extreme 90 degree pitfall before the fender? here is a farther way pict to get a better idea as in placement for us
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/373000-373999/373599_144.jpg

[Loose]

1/2 custom huh? Looks good.

[ArchAngelRacer]

(chair) people who sayed that it was fixed have now be fixed (blowup) . oh well i guess we will just have to wait, and the "loosers" actually have a little bit better life, the person who drives the car other than us has a less chance of screwing up the car. OH well it'll have to wait i guess, i'm not willing yet to go to zip ties, although if it takes another 3 months then i may do it. (encourage). Oh well thanks loose.

[Loose]

"loosers"


Your welcome dude. (thumb)

[ArchAngelRacer]

"loosers"


Your welcome dude. (thumb)

no i mean when you said the lossers with the automatics, and i called them and they wouldn't give me an answer as to if it would work for our cars.

[Da 6]

1/2 custom huh? Looks good. aem doesn't put out a system with black couplers...
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Da%206/1/MzI005.jpg
it's originally a sri with custom heat shield and air/oil seperator
http://www.msprotege.com/members/Da%206/1/MzI001.jpg
the actual aem cai setup makes a sharper bend than the sri twards the fender and the filter sits just above the ugly side marker. my setup uses a difrent size pipe just after the black coupler and goes down to the 12 inch filter that sits almost on the bottom of the splash guard with fog light mesh mod.

the actual aem cai is this...
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/493000-493999/493410_35.jpg
mine is like this
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/373000-373999/373599_145.jpg
so for those who have an Idea what the cai is to look like from aem are baffled at my setup that looks...um kinda difrent.

[Loose]

Looks nice. Tell me more about this fog light mod?

[Da 6]

bottom left and bottom right bumper the 3 gets their fogs stock...in that location the 6 has assesory fogs. Remember our fogs are in the headlight housing for those who got those stock...

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_img_a/373599_118_full.jpg

from left to right: Lo Beam(H1) turn sig (1157) Integrated fog(H3 or empty as mine above) Hi beam(H1)

basicly I removed the front facia(Bumper) and pulled the fog light delete pannels(black mesh pattern same as grill but not open on any model but the wagon) and dremeled the center out and left enough of a ring to hold on to the custom mesh(Home Depot sells a big as section for $7.99 in the drywal section where as you can get it in 1/8 the amount of mesh for $15-25 dolars at the local rip off speed shops) be careful cause once you cut the mesh it tends to becomes C-Wire and cuts thru flesh eaisly. Make a long story short I cut the mesh and used the original delete plates dremeled to retain the mesh in place and painted it flat black to not draw attetion. they look real oem(upload picture of them later tonight/morning). and my filter can be seen from the front...after 12 hard rains and multiple times thru hi pressure wash the filter doesn't get wet enough to effect the engine especally with a tb that is running a 100F and up temp.

ok in summary...opened both plates so intake gets real cold air and is maybe 15% more louder but nowhere loud as SRI and the horns(2 of em) located on other side just below the washer resevoir(SP?) are 19%-22% louder and scare anyone who is standing in front when I arm my alarm.(poke)


P.S. the K&N and AEM filters are way to soft and should be replaced with something else. The filter I have now is 12 inches long and can support my weight!....no lie (160 lbs dry). Pro Car Parts is the place I got it. Also if you can get an open top filter...

[burke]

um i got a atx and installed the aem cai with almost no problems.. i had a little "bracket" like thing and bolted that in where the cai was supposed to go and then bolted the cai into the end of the "bracket." you prolly wont understand what i said, but i wouldnt have cancelled the order over somethig so easy to get around.

[Da 6]

due to the soft as fock MM's the 3 and 6 have the entire engine shifts around under vvt accel and shifts...does the intake hit the bolt on your returne line on your tranny? Bolt attached to lil metal piping with red paint splashes on it? The intake will give way before the bolt will but i the case that is reversed then thats even worse. You have pictures or can you use the pictures on the 1st page of the post to discribe what and wahere you modded the intake?

[Da 6]

Bump....


picts or how-to on fix for atx tranny clearance issues?

[Loose]

...just don't want to M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E the intake. Sorry I'm just very anal. I am now waiting for the Injen CAI to be delivered. It has the application for both the ATX and the MTX.

Tim

[dulog]

anything out for the atx yet?

[Loose]

anything out for the atx yet?
Injen is out and it fits "all applications."

[Da 6]

Injen is out and it fits "all applications." make shure you post lots of picts so we can compare.

[Mazda3hatchback]

Hey guys I let K&N borrow my car to create an intake for the Autos. They had a manual next to my car to see the difference. They should have them out in the next month I believe. I cant wait since they are going to give me a free intake system. I will give you guys the results of my car dynoed before and after the intake. Dont say we are losers. There will be plenty of parts for our cars. The only difference is the tranny. Big woop.
(shrug) (shrug) (shrug) (shrug)

[Da 6]

actualy....the auto is the big difrence. auto launches from 780 rpms(Unless brake torqued but I only got to 2k) where as a manual can launch from wherever. also the gearing is more mpg and torque friendly. Reason I have mine is D.C., MD, and VA are rated #3 in worst traffic jam nightmares. manual mode gives you the feel of a manual w/o the hassle of clutch in and clutch out at the expence of your mpg.


Loose...I finally got the pictures uploaded of the Grille Mesh Mod.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/373000-373999/373599_147_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/373000-373999/373599_148_full.jpg

[Loose]

Looks almost factory. Can't even tell you modified it. (cool) Personally I am split. Ordering the Injen or waiting for the K&N, what do you guys think?

Tim

[Da 6]

depends...lets see what the dyno says ti get an idea...lucky you an atx is dynoing for the K&N. yes I wanted it to not stand out...dealership still hasn't noticed it. The super loud stock alarm shud have given it away.

[anthony2558]

have any pics of what its looks like inside the engine bay. Is it a typhoon system? Thanks

[Loose]

The are still in the R&D part of the process. If I had to guess I would say it's probably a typhoon though. Ask Mazda3hatchback, he/she may know.

[Da 6]

yes and same might have been instructed when they get it to not take pictures of it just yet either. wonder if it's gonna be 2 piece like most their applications. That way you can run cai in summer and for those paranoid of the snow and rain run sri when felt needed.