my mazda 3 on nos!!!!

[morris]

alright, got my system yesterday, and i will install this afternoon..
I'm going to start with 60hp maybe up to 75 but i dont think so.

I Know there are a lot of people against NOS but its only going to be for a month its not going to be that often

anybody else on nos??? (rockon)

[macklum]

alright, got my system yesterday, and i will install this afternoon..
I'm going to start with 60hp maybe up to 75 but i dont think so.

I Know there are a lot of people against NOS but its only going to be for a month its not going to be that often

anybody else on nos??? (rockon) start with a lower amount ,you risk blowing your engine with a 60 shot

[ChopstickHero]

macklum is right... go with a lower shot for safety. seems like nobody else has nitrous oxide on their mazda3, so you don't know the limits of the engine yet. people have installed nitrous oxide on the 2.0L FSDE and have run into problems etc, so there is a base line of what nitrous shot to use.

[morris]

I think the engine should take it..it has a pretty good displacement but maybe I should go with a 50shot just in case

[ghost]

boom!!!!

[morris]

friend of mine has a matrix with a 60 shot...he has been on nos for 6 months and it runs fine

[mp5jeff]

nitrous, not "nos".

[Gbourdon]

nitrous, not "nos".
(werd) And are you using a wet or dry kit?

[MarkSpecV/M3S]

Also starting w/ a lower shot you will appreciate it more, like everything else you get used to it, gets boring and you crave more power !!!!

When I ran Nos w/ 50 shot it was a little more than 1 sec. off in 1/4, 75 shot and slicks was like 1.5 sec. and about +10mph !!!

Nos is nice, simple and keeps motor stock. Then I got tired of Nos and went w/ turbo ( T3/T4 Integra GSR 8psi 12.8's 110mph ) was fun :)

Great bang for buck , but don't get carried away and spray for long periods of time = driving time bomb !!

[Equinox]

Yeah I have Zex, not NOS, I guess you don't want to hear from me since I don't have NOS, as you've asked.

The deciding factor of nitrous injections and reliability is your compression ratio and yoru octane level.

[Da 6]

Yeah I have Zex, not NOS, I guess you don't want to hear from me since I don't have NOS, as you've asked.

The deciding factor of nitrous injections and reliability is your compression ratio and yoru octane level. yeah what he said don't run 87 anymore!!! also word to the wise....don't spray after fuel cut off...

[goldwing2000]

NOS is a brand name, not a product. Like "Band-Aid" instead of "adhesive bandage".

If you want to abbreviate, call it N2O.

That being said... have fun, hope you don't blow your engine and report back what happens! (thumb)

*edited for proper chemical formula*

[illycut]

when running No2 on all stock parts it is not a good idea at all to run more than a 50shot (personally just wouldnt run it), because i dont think you can suck in enough air for the denser combustion to properly take place amongst other things. Just my quick opinion, but if you run a 50 shot moderately should be quite safe.

[Replica]

Start with the smallest pills you got with it. Probably 35.

[Matthew]

youre gonna blow your engine, almost 99.9999 percent of all people who have run nitrous on their proteges have blown motors. maybe your motor is more durable, but i hope you have a WIDEBAND a/f gauge, wet shot, rev limit pills, bottle warmer, and all that bullshit. and a fire extinguisher for when you blow up your engine.

[Replica]

youre gonna blow your engine, almost 99.9999 percent of all people who have run nitrous on their proteges have blown motors. maybe your motor is more durable, but i hope you have a WIDEBAND a/f gauge, wet shot, rev limit pills, bottle warmer, and all that bullshit. and a fire extinguisher for when you blow up your engine.I only know of one guy that hasen't blown his motor, or at least hasen't said anything. He used to post on here, Patio. White p5 with an NX kit, i think it was a 75 shot running a high 14.

[Newf]

um yeah, what MATT said.

Well, on the bright side of things, we'll just wait for you to blow yours, and then we'll know the limit on the 3's.

[Matthew]

maybe those new engines are super strong :rolleyes:

[Replica]

Well, on the bright side of things, we'll just wait for you to blow yours, and then we'll now the limit on the 3's.I was about to say that, but didn't want to sound cryptic.

[Matthew]

newf its MATT lol!!! j/p

but yea, be sure to post good pics so we can use them as "owned" pics and examples of newbs in the future of why "NOS" is not as safe and cool as it seems in Fast and the Fucktards

[N2OInferno]

n2o, not no2. It's dinitrogen monoxide (two parts nitrogen, one part oxygen)

nitrous is awesome.. on cars that can handle it.

[Replica]

Alexiowned.

[bvmazda3]

C'mon you haters! We need a little more fun with our 3's! Blowing my engine is a concern - do you think the Mazda techs will notice the use of n2o in the event of a catastrophic occurrence? :)

Check out this link... http://**********************/viewtopic.php?t=7301

~Bart~

[Matthew]

the disentegrated pistons and bent rods would definately give it away.

[bvmazda3]

the disentegrated pistons and bent rods would definately give it away.

"Uhh, I dunno what happened!? I was driving along (engine doing 2500 RPM, as usual), and it made a funny noise. Maybe it was cheap gas?" (wrc)

[Matthew]

even the dumbest dealer and the lawton police dept wouldnt fall for that.

[Da 6]

I know people who spent rods on N/A applications...if there is room then anything can be done....You could try and see what they say...just don't do like that one guy with the s2000(prank thread) that ran his nitrous lines into his valve cover(rlaugh)

Loving the "Duck Tape" sig(laugh)

[alexlitov]

I only know of one guy that hasen't blown his motor, or at least hasen't said anything. He used to post on here, Patio. White p5 with an NX kit, i think it was a 75 shot running a high 14.


girly also has N20 setup but it's spraying it...so that's another person (headbang)

[alexlitov]

friend of mine has a matrix with a 60 shot...he has been on nos for 6 months and it runs fine

so what if your friend had a 427 and is spraying 120 shot? Is it still ok?? (rtfm)

[mp3moose]

Nawwzz!!!

[Matthew]

girly also has N20 setup but it's spraying it...so that's another person (headbang)
yea but hers is RICE to max. its only there for shows she doesnt even use it. she just uses it to get attention by purging.

[N2OInferno]

which is kinda... extremely.. gay...

might as well have the "intercooler intake"

[Mazda3ofKent]

Forget NO2 and all that fagatronics, save your money and save up for a Turbo kit later on

[Da 6]

Forget NO2 and all that fagatronics, save your money and save up for a Turbo kit later ongranted it might not be as fun as pushing a button but all you need is to floor it to refill the fun factor!

[N2OInferno]

N2O, not NO2

I dunno why I'm picky about that. :D

[N2OInferno]

You don't have to push a button with nitrous. I swear that movie was so friggin overglorified. There are quite a few different setups. One fill flow more nitrous as your RPMs incrase, one can have a button but it's not as convenient, or there's something like the set up I had in my Mustang, which has a toggle switch to turn it on or off, and then at WOT the nitrous flows. It helped a lot too because then I didn't need to worry about the shot when I launched and spinning the slicks. I hated spinning the damn slicks.

[night rider]

word

[Da 6]

take into consideration I never seen a "Real Nitrous Setup" so switches is all I know....as for wot I know a guy who placed the button under the gas pedal so it sprayed when he floored it....found it funny when he let someone borrow his car and didn't know the button was there...(lol2)


PRICLESS....

I prefer turbo and super cause you run out of gas before boost and there is no "well...my nos bottle wasn't full" excuses ;)

[mp5smuggler]

well i have had NOS ( i have a reall NOS bottle) in my car and running a 35 shot for 2 years now. no problems as of yet. i dont use it everyday but ive gone through my fair share of bottles.
i have my system setup with a button placed where i have to let off in order to shift.
nitrous is a great bang for your buck IF you set it up right and IF you use it right. im not saying you wont blow up or anything but be smart about it and you should be fine. just remember just like the idiots with thier hands on the boost knob always turning it up , too much can be a bad thing.

and call it whatever you want too i personally call mine the joy juice.

[Dexter]

yeah, cmon run a 60 shot of NAWZ , so we can find out how strong these new engines are...do it for the mazda3 community!

[Matthew]

lol...smuggler - i keep mine set at 8psi. its good for about double the orig horsepower, unlike nitrous. i guess i hate it because of the bullshit movie portayals.

[N2OInferno]

With a built engine and more fuel you could probably double the horsepower. Not like shots don't go up that high. I can't remember what I had but it was a 100 or 150 shot on the Mustang.

Just gotta know how to tune for nitrous.

[morris]

installed my custom painted coke big ass bottle with NOS everything else

50 shot

today i will go to the track...i have my switch on the gas but there is an aditional switch to turn it on or off

tried only against my friends stock wrx and left him behind...floored from
20mph....
(gun)

[morris]

has anyone instaled and apex s-afc-2?

[Matthew]

wait, can your friend not drive? what other mods do you have done?

[morris]

If a turbo kit were available i would go staight to that but this makes the waiting more fun..I spent 6,000 on my last cars NA engine (mr2 spyder) and it was just doing 14.1 until i crashed like 2 months ago..I'm never going NA again...boost is the way...might seem more expensive starting out but your dollar/whp is going to be much grater

[Matthew]

hiboost is working on a turbo kit

[morris]

my friend does a 14.7 but remember the wrx advantage comes from the start...it does a 1.8 60 ft wich is awesome but after that they aren't that fast
from 0 mph i probably wouldn't catch him because of the ecu 120 limit....if i get there on n2o i would blow my engine

[Matthew]

yea i wouldnt do that.

[morris]

I hope it doesn't take that long for the kit....i like my mazda but it is missing a little kick for my taste...the matrix is faster but not nearly as nice....mazda could use a better vvt system

[TampaBlackMSP]

Good luck. Keep us informed...

[Matthew]

you could always do a custom system.

[mazda3zoom]

cmon man, tell us how it went????also some picsof the setup would be kool.

[mp3_sieater]

I have been runniing an 85 shot on my mp3 now that I got 3 in exhaust and an AWR header, I ran a 75 shot for a year with no problems. But i'm using a fogger with the fuel jet a little rich

[Manny Fresh]

My friend had bought a Nitrous kit for his Eagle Talon, he only had it for a weekend cuz he blew the engine. He was using a 75 shot. He had to sell the nitrous kit to buy a new engine for his car...

User beware.

[mp5jeff]

my friend does a 14.7 but remember the wrx advantage comes from the start
i see.......driving lessons in your friends future...

[mp5jeff]

nitrous sucks, i have a few reasons, to get a real setup that won't blow up your engine, you are looking at 1k off the bat, and install prices unless you do it yourself. Now you have to think about re-fills, how much are you going to be using the nitrous? you could be looking at another 1k just in re-fills in the 1st year depending on how much you use it...that's if you use a bottle every week or every other week...so now you are looking at around 2500 dollars in the 1st year of using it, to me it just isn't worth it...and if you aren't going to be using it that much, then don't bother getting it in the 1st place...

[mp5jeff]

the one advantage i see in nitrous, is it can be hidden, unlike a turbo kit...so if you decided to race someone they wouldn't even know. But that still to me doesn't justify it in the end.

[speedhawaii]

(werd) And are you using a wet or dry kit?
i would think dry.

[mp3_sieater]

Nitrous is no different than any other power adder. Too much gas = BOOM!!
Too much boost = BOOM!!. It all depends on the tuning, and the strength of the engine internals. I for one have had no problems with my nitrous kit, as many have had no problems with turbos. I also know that the 2.0 FS engine has weak rods. But if you can make 85 hp with a turbo kit and have no problems then at least in my case you can run an 85 shot fogger with no problems.

[FC3s Boy]

you can run it safely just don't get carried away and do not hit the rev limter

[morris]

well i hit a 60 shot..my two bottles are now empty and it's fast...the only thing that i didn't count on is that I lost power on normal driving because of the new spark plugs.....so its either really fast or really slow
(drive)
I'm keeping it for a couple of weeks and see how it goes but everything seems fine, BIG Difference with heated bottle..

just as long as you drive as you're supposed to you there is no problem at all

my car has had like 30 test drives... everything is OK (rockon)

[morris]

depends on the amount of power you want...and the only way you blow your engine is if you don't know how to drive or you don't know how to set it up... wrong spark plugs, not enough gas, low octane gas, and just plain nitrous driving ignorance are why people blow engines...I know many people who have used it for long periods of time and have had no problems

[acidbbg]

youre gonna blow your engine, almost 99.9999 percent of all people who have run nitrous on their proteges have blown motors. maybe your motor is more durable, but i hope you have a WIDEBAND a/f gauge, wet shot, rev limit pills, bottle warmer, and all that bullshit. and a fire extinguisher for when you blow up your engine.
I guess i am taht .0000001 percent that didn't blow.

I was running a 50shot..Nitrous express. Never had a problem..and still don't..but now i am turbo'd!

The only reason why i changed..was cost to fill bottle!

Chas(rockon)

[Shane5425]

friend of mine has a matrix with a 60 shot...he has been on nos for 6 months and it runs fine
matrix is made by toyota , there engines are alot tougher....

[morris]

matrix motor are made by yamaha....have you taken a looK at them?...great performance but they aren't strong engines.. check a litttle around celica sites or matrix sites and you'll se they can barely take any boost... regular corolla, mr2 engine are alot tougher but not as much performance

[N2OInferno]

I owned a Celica GT-S, and it was a pretty good engine. But they have such high compression and THAT is the reason they don't take well to boost (the 2ZZ). But the 1ZZ engine, which is what the Celica GT comes equipped with, has lower compression, no lift, and takes well to boost, but you normally only see numbers that sit right around where the 2ZZ is after light modding.. In the end it's not really worth it as much.

[crossbow]

Just a side note on Nos.

If you do encounter an engine problem because of nitrous...there is no way out of it. A simple look at the top of your pistons, or a UOA of your vehicles oil will paint a very clear, and unmistakable story.

http://www.wam.umd.edu/~greghess/piston4.jpg

When your piston looks something like this, its pretty hard to say "oh I didn't do any mods...."

So if you perform such a mod, just be prepared to deal with a giant "WARRANTY VOID" stamp on your VIN.

[Shane5425]

matrix motor are made by yamaha....have you taken a looK at them?...great performance but they aren't strong engines.. check a litttle around celica sites or matrix sites and you'll se they can barely take any boost... regular corolla, mr2 engine are alot tougher but not as much performance
the reason they cant take much boost is because the pistons are tooo high compression, the gts is 11.1 to 1 if i remember right, . after maket pistons and rods are the best way to go to turbocharge the celica and mr2 .... think about it, the protege engine would explode if u boosted it with 11.5-1 compresssion, i have seen a few gts's that are turbocharged at 7 psi and they run fine....

[goldwing2000]

Just a side note on Nos.

If you do encounter an engine problem because of nitrous...there is no way out of it. A simple look at the top of your pistons, or a UOA of your vehicles oil will paint a very clear, and unmistakable story.

When your piston looks something like this, its pretty hard to say "oh I didn't do any mods...."

So if you perform such a mod, just be prepared to deal with a giant "WARRANTY VOID" stamp on your VIN.

Sweeeet... (2thumbs) I like the cooling hole in the top of the piston. Or is that a compression release? (crazy)

[Shane5425]

Just a side note on Nos.

If you do encounter an engine problem because of nitrous...there is no way out of it. A simple look at the top of your pistons, or a UOA of your vehicles oil will paint a very clear, and unmistakable story.

When your piston looks something like this, its pretty hard to say "oh I didn't do any mods...."

So if you perform such a mod, just be prepared to deal with a giant "WARRANTY VOID" stamp on your VIN.
what kind of car did that come out of???? .. i have seen a piston take to much nos, it was burnt but not that bad, the eshaust valve was melted shut..... couldnt budge that thing from the head....

[crossbow]

http://www.wam.umd.edu/~greghess/piston3.jpg

There's another nice one for ya.

[goldwing2000]

There's another nice one for ya.

Outstanding...

Boost is bad, mm-kay?

[acidbbg]

Just a side note on Nos.

If you do encounter an engine problem because of nitrous...there is no way out of it. A simple look at the top of your pistons, or a UOA of your vehicles oil will paint a very clear, and unmistakable story.

There is a simple way around the oil inspection. Make sure you use medical grade nitrous. This way it doesn't leave that residue in your oil.

Chas

[Shane5425]

There is a simple way around the oil inspection. Make sure you use medical grade nitrous. This way it doesn't leave that residue in your oil.

Chas


so , go to the hostpital to tank up... lol..... i am sure they will comply...

[acidbbg]

to funny..

No just check around..that's what i did..and i found 2 shops that held the medical grade nitrous!

Chas

[Shane5425]

whats the difference in it

[N2OInferno]

Nitrous as a performance adder has sulfur added into it so you can't inhale it and become intoxicated, if I'm correct.

[crossbow]

There is a simple way around the oil inspection. Make sure you use medical grade nitrous. This way it doesn't leave that residue in your oil.
Chas
K, scratch one. So then how do you magically repair all the melted pistons? :)

[morris]

last night was fun again, there have been no explotions...car seems to take the 60 shot with no problem...I dont plan on going higher I actually am not a nitrous fan but I had the kit in my garage for some time now...it probably will just be on my car for a couple more bottles. I'm sure the car could take a 75 shot but I'll let someone else try it...Im satisfied with my car for now...I still don't have track numbers because it's been closed but on thursday I will give it a try.....Its like I said before, if you take precautions and drive like you're supposed to you won't have any problems

I have already done like 25-27 runs changed my oil and my spark plugs just to be safe and i test my gas selenoid before each run

[flydigs]

Just make sure you use copper spark plugs if you are going to use nitrous. That is one of the things that is often overlooked and can lead to big problems. The tips on platinum spark plugs get very hot and stay very hot when used with nitrous, the tip could break off into your cylinder and that would be bad. Also if your using a manual I would get a window switch. This tells the nitrous at what RPMs to turn on and off. This way you can shut off the nitrous right before redline, so if you miss a shift your engine doesn't go boom. (blowup) Just be carefull, make sure your a/f ratio is fine and have fun. (burnout)

[Airman Jack]

so how did the track times come out?

[morris]

best time was 14.5@ 97mph....

with some 15's and some weight taken off it should do at least a 14.3

[acidbbg]

Schweet...How's traction coming off the line? What gears are you shooting in?

Chas

[morris]

all gears are on n2o... off the line my best was 2.42 in 60ft......
without nitrous i've managed a 2.38.... but those big seventeens don't help very much

[acidbbg]

What you need to do is upgrade your motor mounts..this will help w/ wheel hop..as well as traction.

Not sure if there is aftermarket yet..but Window weld works really well. You fill your motor mounts..let them sit over nite..and install..

Makes a very noticable difference!

Chas

[morris]

I'm not going to spend much on n2o tuning...just having a little fun while a turbo kit or supercharger come out...I'm not a big n2o fan ....I hope the come up with reliable boost fast cause this is a pretty slow car

[acidbbg]

That window weld mod..works great for both nitrous & turbo!

There is already a trubo kit out for the mazda3. Made by highboost.

Chas

[morris]

thanks for the tip acid... about the highboost kit...wich is their web page? (omg)

[FC3s Boy]

i got the hiboost kits for the 3 for $3600.00

[acidbbg]

HiBoost Turbo Systems, Inc.
info@hiboost.com
www.hiboost.com (http://www.hiboost.com)

HiBoost TS (http://www.msprotege.com/forum/member.php?u=3945) vbmenu_register("postmenu_1103234", true);
Boosting 20 psi

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/image.php?u=3945&dateline=1052090255 (http://www.msprotege.com/forum/member.php?u=3945)

[goldwing2000]

I thought Hiboost's Mazda3 kit was still in development. When was it released??

[FC3s Boy]

I thought Hiboost's Mazda3 kit was still in development. When was it released??the kit is out i sell it for $3600.00

[IllBinfrontofya]

I don't see anything that reads" Mazda 3 turbo kit"

[morris]

I wrote to highboost and the kit is in development...they have a a phone number if you're interested ...they will call as soon as it's ready.

[Kimo5d3s]

Hmmm im alittle hesitant in the Highboost application as their website does state "As long as you have a Mazda Protege 5 2002 or beyond with the FS 2.0 liter engine, our kit will work for you.The kit should fit the Mazda MP3 and the New Protege Mazdaspeed turbo (upgrade).
As a consumer I would feel more comfortible in buying an application that is made specificly for the mz3 2.3 engine. I know I might be the only one thats so protective of my 3 I dont trust the word SHOULD. However if it does fit and works ok with the 2.3 that would be awesome. I cant wait to hear the results from some one who gets it installed . (thumb)

[bvmazda3]

Hmmm im alittle hesitant in the Highboost application as their website does state "As long as you have a Mazda Protege 5 2002 or beyond with the FS 2.0 liter engine, our kit will work for you.The kit should fit the Mazda MP3 and the New Protege Mazdaspeed turbo (upgrade).
As a consumer I would feel more comfortible in buying an application that is made specificly for the mz3 2.3 engine. I know I might be the only one thats so protective of my 3 I dont trust the word SHOULD. However if it does fit and works ok with the 2.3 that would be awesome. I cant wait to hear the results from some one who gets it on.

From what I understand, Hiboost's turbo for the 3 is still in development. The one listed on the website is only for those applications listed, and not for the 3.

He's developing the new kit on a Mazda3 2.3L, and it will be a modified (and tested) version of the one he has developed for the Mazda6 2.3L.

Anyone, jump in with corrections!

Bart

[Kimo5d3s]

From what I understand, Hiboost's turbo for the 3 is still in development. The one listed on the website is only for those applications listed, and not for the 3.

He's developing the new kit on a Mazda3 2.3L, and it will be a modified (and tested) version of the one he has developed for the Mazda6 2.3L.

Anyone, jump in with corrections!

Bart
Well with that in mind that might be somthing worth waiting for! (rockon)

[N2OInferno]

I think, maybe, you were getting the MP3 (Special model of Protege) and the Mazda 3 confused. The P5, MP3, and MSP all have the 2.0L engine and the same front end as far as I know, so it should fit them all. That's what they were saying.

[Kimo5d3s]

*scratches head* hmm you know what you are probably right. Some times i forget that the mz3 comes in a 2.0 engine. However, thanks to bvmazda3's post we know a kit for the 2.3L is in progress.

[morris]

the kit is in development for the 2.3l engine...it wont be the same kit as the one on the website...you can write to them and get yourself on the list to be called when its ready

[FC3s Boy]

hi boost has many mazda 6 2.3l motor with the turbo kit on it, if you do a search for hibosst and mazda6 his post will come up about it

[crossbow]

Yes but those turbo kit's don't apply to US spec Mazda6's or Mazda3's, which have different compression ratio's then their oversea's counterparts, as well as different emissions regulations, which requires that the kits be refitted and designed for the US spec cars.

[4u2nv BlUe M3]

Morris you and i are very similar we both felt that this car need more of a pick me up ..so i too went the way of nitrous ..but my story doesnt have a happy ending ...

See before i had my Mazda 3 i had an eclipse on nitrous it was great i loved the power. my car had nitrous for 6 months then i took it off and sold the car now...i did atleast 3 months of research on the 3 after i got it ..and waited for the AEM Cai to come out so i could be the first to install the kit..well i took my 50 shot wet NX kit and installed it as soon as the intake was made...and let me tell you she was a monster..i could still see the face of the driver behind the Blue RX-8 after he saw my lil blue mazda 3 walking away from him..it was running great i was putting the car on the map down here in miami ... but then i got power hungry.. dont get me wrong i did the most i could to keep it safe with the limited avalibilty of after market fuel management for this car never in my right mind would i imagine that this would happen to me... so i went ahead and i got the 75 shot jet ...now i had one freaking fast lil 3 ..G35..SRT-4..S2000..lots of boosted cars..were all falling behind me and it ran great for a whole month ...intill i went to disney world and well everytime i was in 3rd gear it would make this very loud noise like maybe i burned one of the syncro so when i get back home the whole tranny just gives out ...now if you dont blieve me here are the link and you'll get more details i can even send you pictures if you want


When i got it:nitrous install (http://**********************/viewtopic.php?t=7301&highlight=)


The Aftermath: the tranny (http://**********************/viewtopic.php?t=9518&highlight=)


Now im not saying your gonna suffer the same fate but i would advise that you lower your shot or take the kit off till more after market parts are avaliable ...just my .02 cents

[AzMz3]

Morris you and i are very similar we both felt that this car need more of a pick me up ..so i too went the way of nitrous ..but my story doesnt have a happy ending ...

See before i had my Mazda 3 i had an eclipse on nitrous it was great i loved the power. my car had nitrous for 6 months then i took it off and sold the car now...i did atleast 3 months of research on the 3 after i got it ..and waited for the AEM Cai to come out so i could be the first to install the kit..well i took my 50 shot wet NX kit and installed it as soon as the intake was made...and let me tell you she was a monster..i could still see the face of the driver behind the Blue RX-8 after he saw my lil blue mazda 3 walking away from him..it was running great i was putting the car on the map down here in miami ... but then i got power hungry.. dont get me wrong i did the most i could to keep it safe with the limited avalibilty of after market fuel management for this car never in my right mind would i imagine that this would happen to me... so i went ahead and i got the 75 shot jet ...now i had one freaking fast lil 3 ..G35..SRT-4..S2000..lots of boosted cars..were all falling behind me and it ran great for a whole month ...intill i went to disney world and well everytime i was in 3rd gear it would make this very loud noise like maybe i burned one of the syncro so when i get back home the whole tranny just gives out ...now if you dont blieve me here are the link and you'll get more details i can even send you pictures if you want


When i got it:nitrous install (http://**********************/viewtopic.php?t=7301&highlight=)


The Aftermath: the tranny (http://**********************/viewtopic.php?t=9518&highlight=)


Now im not saying your gonna suffer the same fate but i would advise that you lower your shot or take the kit off till more after market parts are avaliable ...just my .02 cents

I just see you mishap as unfortunate. And also see this post as just a friendly warning for something that might happen.
As I am surely not one to jump to conclusions and say the Mazda3 has a weak tranny. Beside you DID NOT do every thing possible to run a safe shot of nitrous....no dyno time!
I think I will wait till atleast acouple more start falling before crying wolf.

[morris]

I'm no longer on nos...removed the kit this weekend... it was fun while it lasted but the truth is I don't think I'm completely happy with this car...i'm too speed hungry for it....there are too many like priced cars that are much faster... the mazda three is a beautiful car it just not meant for performance....I'm going for the srt-4 leaving this one to my mother

[Mazda3ofKent]

I'm no longer on nos...removed the kit this weekend... it was fun while it lasted but the truth is I don't think I'm completely happy with this car...i'm too speed hungry for it....there are too many like priced cars that are much faster... the mazda three is a beautiful car it just not meant for performance....I'm going for the srt-4 leaving this one to my mother

is it me or do most Mazdas dont like da N2O

[Rock]

What do you expect, Most motors can't take more than a 50shot w/o major problems. You need to make sure that the fuel system is capable of handling the extra power, add a unexperienced tuner spraying all the time or doing stupid shit and you're bound to break something. As far as the mazda 3 is concerned, it has boatloads of potential, just needs time and tuning to get it done. One thing I Will say is that it won't be the Fastest car you can get for the money, but it certainly is the best car OVERALL you can get for the money. I mean think about it... what car can you get that Looks sexy as hell, handles curves like all it's mazda predecessors, and has some Zoom-Zoom to it?

[4u2nv BlUe M3]

As I am surely not one to jump to conclusions and say the Mazda3 has a weak tranny. Beside you DID NOT do every thing possible to run a safe shot of nitrous....no dyno time!

Now AZmz3 lets be honest what would you! have done to make it safer to run nitrous ..cuz unless you got some big bucks in your pocket i dont see you building up the tranny just to runn a 75 shot and if you do shyt now you got a tranny that can hold lets say 400hp ...what about your motor...looks like it gonna cost more... i kinda under estimated and that being that it was a fresh motor',shyt fresh evrything tthat i would have no problem ...i mean damn lil freaking civics have 100 shots and they use it all the time and dont break a damn thing ... i hope that doesnt mean honda is better then mazda cuz ill freaking flip... the bottom line EVERYONE here is in a hurry to go faster shyt at least make it more fun to drive and if you say no then why would you post in the engine performance section of this forum..there is vurtually nothing out for the car yet (intake and springs)... (eek2) for the exhuast i think somebody(VRS) has one out but is expensive as hell..but what can we do but save and wait hopefully there will be some means MZ3 out there doing major damage someday hopefully not to far

P.S. AZMZ3 i dont mean this post to come at you the wrong way just my .02 cents

[morris]

I had no Problems running on nitrous I had a 60+1 shot and never had any problems...actually it was really fun... you become well known fast ...its crowd pleasing to see the mazda take more expensive faster cars... my defeated list was pretty cool...even i was surprised

[N2OInferno]

If you want a fast, streetable car, then your best bet is to look for something used and RWD. I say used because a lot of new RWD cars are $$. Not that FWD isn't good, but once you start getting high hp numbers for a FWD car they suck to drive on the street and finding traction will become another problem altogether.

[Kimo5d3s]

A wise man once told me While he was tunning his eclipse gsr "when using nitrous as your forced induction step 1 know your vehicles strong points and weak points. Make the strong points stronger if possile and make the weak points even stronger before you start spraying. Start off small, very small, then increase the power little by little untill you find the right ballance where your car is eating it like candy. He also said the moment you dont know the weak points or strong points and just throw a kit on and start getting power hungry you are bound to F*#K up something. With the car being so new its kinda hard to properly tune the vehicle for nos. On the opposite end if there werent for the power hungry speedsters the patient tunners wouldnt know What not to do. Thanks for the post. Im sure alot have learned something from this post. I have to say Though I hope you get a black or blue SRT4 cuz the Yellow one looks like a downsyndrome Peekachew...i dont care how fast it is its still 10 kinds of ugly. (rockon)

[Dexter]

just please call it Nitrous. It sounds bleh... " TUNE IT FOR NOS"

[4u2nv BlUe M3]

you not whats sad though lets say that the nitrous was truely behind this ...just imagine how hard it is going to be when we all start boosting will the car hold its self together .... im about 100% positive that i was over 200whp on the juice damn gets you thinking huh?

[Kimo5d3s]

just please call it Nitrous. It sounds bleh... " TUNE IT FOR NOS"


oh please forgive me oh great one for not checking in with you as to which is the correct termonology to use! <== Dripping with extream amounts of sarcasam incase it wasn't noticed. Lighten up you know what I was talking about as well as tons of other people....LOL I thought this was a forum not an english class.

[Antoine]

stay on topic and chill people...;)

[tkhawaii]

A wise man once told me While he was tunning his eclipse gsr "when using nitrous as your forced induction step 1 know your vehicles strong points and weak points. Make the strong points stronger if possile and make the weak points even stronger before you start spraying. Start off small, very small, then increase the power little by little untill you find the right ballance where your car is eating it like candy. He also said the moment you dont know the weak points or strong points and just throw a kit on and start getting power hungry you are bound to F*#K up something. With the car being so new its kinda hard to properly tune the vehicle for nos. On the opposite end if there werent for the power hungry speedsters the patient tunners wouldnt know What not to do. Thanks for the post. Im sure alot have learned something from this post. I have to say Though I hope you get a black or blue SRT4 cuz the Yellow one looks like a downsyndrome Peekachew...i dont care how fast it is its still 10 kinds of ugly. (rockon)

Got a kick out of this post... too funny! down syndrome peekachew... LOL. Good one Kimo

I agree with the go fast deal. Our MZ3 afterall is set up initially as an economy class leader. I believe it's doing just that... its also getting Mazda big bucks! Being an economy class leader, I am sure there are areas in our current drivetrain that are not quite set up to handle the torque and stress mega shots of Nitrous would subject it to. The SRT on the other hand was designed by the folks at Chrysler to be a sport compact leader - hell, it's the second quickest vehicle they put out - only the Viper is quicker. I've seen sites which have proven parts and machinings to Stage 3 the SRT - well over 350 whp - scary thought. The thing is this... when is enough enough and what car do you want to be in with all that power. There is currently some folks that are turning a MZ3-5 into one hell-of-a barnstormer albeit after stripping the hell out of it and putting in ultimately about 90K!!! Jeez... let me think.... bought mine for 17K, take the 3K to put in intake, exhaust, underdrive, wheels and rubber..... take the leftover 70K and put it as a down payment on 3-4 income property rentals.... LOL. Wanna spend 31K and know that you have one wicked, screaming terror on the road??? Buy the Subaru STi; spend 20K and then 6K for a stage three on a SRT neon and eat up that Subaru? - go for it. Otherwise, our 3s are pretty darn cute and a really carvin' grocery getter.

Thanks for the information on the Nitrous... I'm hoping the aftermarket folks get crackin' soon and give us some hope.

[Dexter]

oh please forgive me oh great one for not checking in with you as to which is the correct termonology to use! <== Dripping with extream amounts of sarcasam incase it wasn't noticed. Lighten up you know what I was talking about as well as tons of other people....LOL I thought this was a forum not an english class.
man, all im saying is it sounds Fast and Furious to say "Tune it for NOS".
thats all. im not teaching an english class.

[Kimo5d3s]

man, all im saying is it sounds Fast and Furious to say "Tune it for NOS".
thats all. im not teaching an english class.

hmmm well not to sound rude or disrespectfull at all but all I can say is SO WHAT! *LAUGHS* Any way lets get back to the guy that was gonna leave his mother with the ubber nice MZ3. And he was gonna go for a Peekachew car where the backseat windows dont roll all the way down... (scratch) Just like a Dodge there is always something unfinished. SHHH dont tell any one Kimo5d3s <==== previously owned 2002 Ram 1500 I should know....lol

[acidbbg]

is it me or do most Mazdas dont like da N2O
Mine did. I ran 50 shots all day long fri sat sunday! I used to toast cars left and right..

I had cai, header exhuasts, no cats...but cost to much to keep fillin the bottle!

Sounds like the guy he blew the tranny...had been shooting while going into the gear. You have to let off between shifts!

Chas

[AzMz3]

Well since there has only been 2 people on here that has ran nitrious I would not say that the Mazda3 does not like it. One tranny has said to be gone because of it, which I kinda doubt. I see the engine being very strong, alot stronger than the 2.0L Zetec in the Focus and the 2.0L in the Protege. Not only that it takes very well to mods, in fact better than most 4cylinders. I just don't see you putting down 200hp on a 75shot. I say what happened to you was either a bad part that MAYBE got worst from the nitrious.

[morris]

our engine is tough...i'm sure it has a lot of potential...the only thing I've disliked is the wheelhop from the line on some kind of surfaces......seems like the car is going to fall apart.. you are safer if you run at 10mph..plus it'll be to your advantage since our seventeens and stock rubber aren't very impressive for this purpose...I tried to put on some 15's but never found any that fit....I was so confortable with my 60 shot that i have no doubts that a 75 will work fine... maybe he broke his tranny because he was hitting nitrous from the line instead of giving it only gas .... too much torque at low rpm will do this... my nitrous never was hit below 4500 rpm