ETA on the MS-P

[sleeper_]

ack. just got off the phone with mazda canada customer service. i was told that the car release date is being delayed to early next year :'( .... nooooo, wanted it so bad for october.. sigh.. :/
and they have no information on pricing either. i guess i'll buy a beater to drive around, sigh.

[MMMatHeart]

That differs from my inquiry to them last week (which was Dunno). It also goes against what Callaway told me this week (which was Sep-Nov for mods at the port for both countries). What was the reason given for the delay?:confused: :confused:

[sleeper_]

no reason given. that's all the service rep told me... all i can say is that i suuure hope you're right :)

i can't see why there'd be such a huge delay if they're already working on the cars now for them to be released next year 4 months is a loong time.

[MMMatHeart]

I just got off the phone with Canadian Customer Service with someone I've spoken to before. The date that she has (verified yesterday with at least 1 other CSR (out of 5)) is B4 X'Mas, 02. You probably were told the date for the new Mazda 6 which sort of sounds like MazdaSpeed.

Also remember that there has been a sighting at the Vancouver docks.

BTW, there is a info sheet now available at the dealers...no $ yet.;)

[sleeper_]

hehe, ok, great..
definitely gotta find a beater car now. lol

[sleeper_]

spoke to dealer this morn and he was saying that there indeed will be two waves? as he got the info from his mazda rep. first wave is october/november and second wave is early next year supposedly according to what my dealer was told.

[slug420]

december is ABSURD, this car NEEDS to come in october! The only thing that makes me wonder if october isnt a reliastic timeframe is that MAZDA is entirely not on the ball with respects to setting up franchises. No dealers, no matter what they say, knwo for 100% sure yet whether or not they are going to be mazdaspeed franchises. Showrooms will bear displays, and a parts area and signs and stuff all for mazdaspeed and none of that stuff has arrived at the 2 dealers around me who are sur ehtey will be franchises. I wish mazda would get on the ball. I really wish there was somewhere we could go look at a list of authorized MS dealers to make sure the one wehave our deposits with isnt just wishful thinking...

[enry]

I'd be surprised if the car arrived before november here in Canada.

[Traveler]

Just talked to my saleman at our local dealership and he said that he and a couple others are going down to California for a demo session on the Mazdaspeed. They will be there for a few days of training and test driving and Mazda USA will be announcing when the first ones will be available as well as final pricing. They are expecting low $21K to high $21K as far as pricing from what they've heard.

And where is anybody buying a WRX for $23K? I work at a BMW/Subaru/Volvo dealership and the ones I've looked at were around $26,500. The cheapest one without the spoiler was still $24K. I hate to tell anyone this, but I've seen under the car, under the hood, and heard about and seen the warranty stuff that comes in on those cars. They are neat, but they break.

[slug420]

my dealer said the same thing about a regional info session on the car. Management a salesman and service techs are all going. classroom experience and a test drive and stuff.....not sure when the northeast regional one is. hope its soon tho

[LinuxRacr]

my dealer said the same thing about a regional info session on the car. Management a salesman and service techs are all going. classroom experience and a test drive and stuff.....not sure when the northeast regional one is. hope its soon tho
(laugh) ....Tell you why later.

[sleeper_]

man.. thanks a lot to leave us wondering what there is for you to tell :P

[JasonH]

My local dealer is getting 6 orange (which they expect in October, of course, nothing definite yet) and then 6 black, which they expect shortly thereafter. If there's a different color in spring (I've heard rumors of MP3-blue ones as well as yellow ones) they'll probably get 6 more then too.

[oliver2000]

Think about this....if the car does not make it in October, then you may as well wait until next year. With the stock tires on this baby winter driving is a no-no...you would not want to pick up you new MSP with snow on the ground and crash it 5 minutes later, nor would you like to pick up your new MSP and spend more money on steel wheels and snows. So if the car does not make it in canada until it snows you might as well wait...

[sleeper_]

having to buy steels and tires is a given.. a month or two doesn't make a big deal. Besides, getting the dealer to give you a discount for both (at their cost price as goodwill gesture) and work it into the financing.

i already included that in my cost.

[enry]

If there's a different color in spring (I've heard rumors of MP3-blue ones as well as yellow ones) they'll probably get 6 more then too.

Oh boy.

I've heard many other colors will be available in 2003. specifically, I have put a color chart to show you how varied these colors are!
http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/enry/c216table.gif

[sleeper_]

hahaha, good one, enry lol

[odp]

Got a call from my dealer today. ETA is second week of October, for Vancouver area, maybe the same for the rest of Canada.

[Limited Edition]

what does 'ETA' mean??.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

something to do with delivery date?:rolleyes:

[NC_MSP]

ETA = Estimated Time of Arrival. so you got it right.....its got somethin to do with the delivery date.

[MSpeed]

i was told late september, early october

[enry]

WHAT IS MSRP IN CANADA !@?!?!!??!?!

[enry]

I just got off the phone with mazda canada... I asked why there is no MSRP on the @#$@#$ car yet.

The response was:
I know, my daughter keeps bugging me about that car too. We have no information yet on MSRP, and [last I heard] delivery was definitely not in the fall... probably early next year.
I can tell you for sure it is not this fall.

(Can you say DEJA VU?)

Well I'm not too sad, mind you, since I lack the $$$$ right now.

As for the cars at the vancouver docks. Can someone find out if they read miles or kilometers on the odo? :D

[Prophet]

Still talking early October here...... I may be putting my deposit on mine this Saturday....

-Jeremy-

[enry]

Went to my dealer today for a car fix. Sales manager confirmed early next year. (I am in Canada).

And think of this... how can it be october? We don't even know MSRP, it would be unreasonable to announce MSRP 1 month before delivery.

If it's not october, it could be november. Depending when and where you are in Canada, delivering the car with 215/45ZR17s would be nuts.. and who wants to buy a sports car and immediately torture it with canadian salt and dirty roads?

Another issue... I don't have a money tree in my backyard, so I can't come up with 24-30K (whatever it will be) in weeks.
And if the price is attractive, I'd like to SELL my MP3 to someone that will care for the car and pay me fairly, not trade it in at a big loss and have it go to some random jack.

-e

[MMMatHeart]

Enry, you need to chill!. All this speculating is getting to you. Per Toronto area dealers I researched with before, the MP3 was "dropped" unannounced on the dealers when they came out. They expect the same pattern for the MSP.

As of late, I could not get an official date other than the following personal confirmations:
1. Mazda Canada Customer Service has stated before X'Mas as recently as Aug 29
2. The Canadian sales glossy info sheet (printed in Canada in June) states October availability. This was given to people on the waiting list in the last 2-4 weeks
3. A memo I received from Callaway states Sept-Nov for mods for BOTH countries done at their ports of entry (logically Vancouver for Canada).

With them being spotted in Van. the only thing I can see stopping the 1st deliveries in the next month is if the Canadian certification wasn't done properly, or that some Canadian regulation mods wasn't done (e.g. billingual labelling). The latter is the situation with the new Honda ST1300 bikes that is stalled right now in a Canadian warehouse. I know because my cousin is waiting for it.

However, you're right that it sucks that we can't get advance notice for financing purposes.

Keep the faith!

[slug420]

no word from Mazda USA (I am in the US) but all the dealers I have contacted in my area, and I have contacted several have said next couple weeks/mid october for delivery. I havent heard any numbers later than those. My dealer is going to NJ on Monday to MAZDASPEED school where the service techs, managemenbt, and salesmen (1 of each I think) learn everything there is to know about the mazdaspeed and how to sell it and fix it and yadda yadda.

The dealer Ia m buying from is one of the top 50 in the country, and the number 1 dealer in CT and is in both of the presidentila service guild things on the MAZDAusa site so I am confident in my ability to get one in the "first wave" but when I went to put my deposit on one the dealer knew nothing about them. He thought the color was "copper" and didnt know anything about how different it would be fromt he mp3, so i sat down with him and told him everything I knew about it (everything there is to know basically) and he was just blown away by all the info I had. He in fact didnt have any flyers for the car (and this was a good few weeks after the fliers had been out) so I gave him one of my extras. He laughed and said this is the first time he has ever had a customer teach HIM about a car and give HIM a flyer about it. Nevertheless he said "Im going down this monday to find out all about the mazdaspeed at mazdaspeed school, probably nothing you dont already know though" but I imagine at the very least he should come back with a solid ETA.......

[TreyG73]

I'm a salesman here in Houston, TX and our training is on the 18th. My Gen. Mgr., service manager, parts manager, 1 service tech and I are the only ones going from my dealership (MUNDAY MAZDA). I will have more info. after that date.

[LinuxRacr]

Originally posted by TreyG73
I'm a salesman here in Houston, TX and our training is on the 18th. My Gen. Mgr., service manager, parts manager, 1 service tech and I are the only ones going from my dealership (MUNDAY MAZDA). I will have more info. after that date.

:D (laugh).......Space center...right?!

[MMMatHeart]

I just cut this from the "official press release" from Mazda USA's website's section on the MSP http://www.mazdausa.com/mazdaspeed/mazdaspeed_motorsport/ms_motor_press_article2.asp :
"...Available in mid-September, and limited to only 2,000 units for the U.S. and Canada, the 2003 MAZDASPEED Protegé ..."

This totally revamped section (in the last 2 weeks) on MazdaSpeed indicate that this is fairly current thinking from the company.

Keep the faith!

[andr3w]

I wouldn't be suprised if MNAO drop shifts to dealers in Canada ahead of official marketing, dealer and Canada specific MSP web pages because they do not have time to develop them.

I used to work for a major marketing agency in Detroit which did alot of work with the autos. The dual language requirement in Canada is royal pain in the arse and means that content can not be published in English until French is ready. The "Ford Approved" translation bureaus used to get booked solid, and every document had to pass thru two legal hoops, extra proofing, double creative time as well as Ford of Canada people. I imagine Mazda uses the same or similar channels.

Well, this is my theory about the lack of information about Mazdaspeed and the MSP in Canada!!

[Performance]

For the Canadian dealers or people reading, the car is scheduled to be here in late October. Journalists from Ontario and Quebec will be testing the Mazdaspeed plus the Mazda 6 in Montreal on October 6. I have a journalist customer who will send me pics of both cars later that day.

[JasonH]

Originally posted by Performance
Journalists from Ontario and Quebec will be testing the Mazdaspeed plus the Mazda 6 in Montreal on October 6. I have a journalist customer who will send me pics of both cars later that day.

I hope to be able to post pics of my MS Protege by then. Of course, I'm not in Canada.