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yanyan
06-12-2004, 12:39 PM
Well... i just had a question to ask ya'll, the mods i have so far are..

Turbo XS high performance boost controller at 10 psi
Joep FCD
Custom intake
Turbohoses hardpipes
Greddy TypeS BOV

I was wondering with those mods... is it safe to run 13 psi??? without blowing anything up?????

BTW i will be getting an APEX DP w HIGHFLOW CAT soon....

murdock_
06-12-2004, 12:40 PM
no

cvp0917
06-12-2004, 12:41 PM
i doubt it

pdhaudio83
06-12-2004, 12:42 PM
i love it. kids come on here, boost to 13psi, then expect MAZDA to pay for their fucked up cars. Not to mention they have NO IDEA what they are doing. BTW, yanyan, you no longer have an engine warranty. So don't blow your engine.

mazdaspeedpower
06-12-2004, 12:43 PM
wait until you have a full exhaust, bigger injectors(atleast, maybe more fuel upgrades aswell), and also, FMIC. Then, maybe it'll be safe. I get the feeling I'm forgetting something from the list.......

KyRaceFan
06-12-2004, 01:04 PM
Safe NO. Can you do it at the track on Race Gas. Yea, probably. I ran 15 psi at the track on turbo blue, and didnt have a problem.
I dont have any fuel upgrades yet, and the car still runs. Of course, i only run 10psi daily.


Be careful!!

mazdaspeedpower
06-12-2004, 01:27 PM
yeah, KY is right, you can run it on the track with the High octane race fuel...just don't run it daily. But if you want to run it daily, take the precautions

wicked
06-12-2004, 01:40 PM
13psi=pop goes your motor!

why modify your car if you have no clue what your doing?
sell the car and buy a civic!

msp4you
06-12-2004, 05:34 PM
love it

IBTL

Rich24km
06-12-2004, 05:49 PM
Well... i just had a question to ask ya'll, the mods i have so far are..

Turbo XS high performance boost controller at 10 psi
Joep FCD
Custom intake
Turbohoses hardpipes
Greddy TypeS BOV

I was wondering with those mods... is it safe to run 13 psi??? without blowing anything up?????

BTW i will be getting an APEX DP w HIGHFLOW CAT soon....

Dude if you know what you're doing there won't be much problem. I ran 14psi with the same mods, accept i had a CAI. I got my engine listened to through each gear at every RPM at full throttle on a dyno with an engine stethescope, and There was no knock detonation etc. This was without a fan or anything to cool the engine because i wanted the worste possible conditions. I also road on the street for a while to get the engine bay good and hot prior to this. Some MSPs can't do this though from what previous problems have shown. So yeah i wouldn't do it without checking your shit out to make sure its not having problems. I started out on race gas driving like that for a few weeks then put 93 octane in and went to the dyno to listen to the motor. My friend is a really experienced tuner. I have gone back down to 8psi for a while just because its hot as hell, and gas costs to much. But Alot of people are really paranoid because some peole blew they're motors. Which i believe they didn't tell the full story. Supposedly before you couldn't run 10psi and there are a shit load of people running 10 daily on this board. Everyones scared. Just be carefull.

mazdaowner123
06-12-2004, 05:53 PM
i love it. kids come on here, boost to 13psi, then expect MAZDA to pay for their fucked up cars. Not to mention they have NO IDEA what they are doing. BTW, yanyan, you no longer have an engine warranty. So don't blow your engine.
Some kids on here know what they're doing, not all are idiots.

And to answer your question yanyan, no.

~brian

Rich24km
06-12-2004, 06:00 PM
Some kids on here know what they're doing, not all are idiots.

And to answer your question yanyan, no.

~brian
Agreed :)

msp4you
06-12-2004, 06:12 PM
Yeah, I'm running .85 bar daily. No FCD either.

spacemonkey
06-12-2004, 06:29 PM
YES! 13 PSI!

def no on regular pump gas...maybe race gas. Non of those mods help you boost that much except for the FCD. Get a wideband and see how rich it runs with that much pressure. If you really want to boost that much without risking it go with a piggy back and standalone.

If you like to take a risk then go ahead.

jurgs01
06-12-2004, 06:30 PM
If you can afford $2500 for a new engine (including installation), then get a piggyback or a standalone, a FMIC or upgraded SMIC, an intake and take the standalone to someone who knows what they are doing and have them program it for you. There are some great systems out there that allow you to program your computer (timing and fuel delivery) for every 100-300 RPMs at different boost levels. Otherwise, wait until you can afford those mods to boost above 10 psi. This is my second mazdaspeed, and upping the boost will be one of my last mods on this one.

azian6er
06-12-2004, 06:31 PM
i wouldnt recommend it without free flowing exhaust and race gas. And even then becareful of high rpms on high boost. our rods/bearing do not like high rpms.

-B

spacemonkey
06-12-2004, 06:37 PM
i wouldnt recommend it without free flowing exhaust and race gas. And even then becareful of high rpms on high boost. our rods/bearing do not like high rpms.

-BVery true which is why Unichip boost 13 psi and bleeds off to 10 psi at high RPM. Good call....its all about that margin of saftey.

But this 13 psi is with new timming and fuel maps something you dont have. so I wouldnt go for it unless im on racegas.

BoOsTiN
06-12-2004, 06:57 PM
i love it. kids come on here, boost to 13psi, then expect MAZDA to pay for their fucked up cars. Not to mention they have NO IDEA what they are doing. BTW, yanyan, you no longer have an engine warranty. So don't blow your engine.

Good job, im sure he's learned his lesson ......(jerkit)

pates03
06-12-2004, 08:48 PM
he never said taking it to mazda, i dont know where the fuck that shit came from...some kids know what they are doing...

jurgs01
06-12-2004, 09:17 PM
he never said taking it to mazda, i dont know where the fuck that shit came from...some kids know what they are doing...
From the blown engine that's bound to happen with lack of knowledge...

yanyan
06-12-2004, 09:24 PM
Hmm thanks for all the replies everyone, i think imma hold back and just upgrade to downpipe w high flow cat, and greddy sp2 exhaut... and maybe a corksport S pipe,i was just wondering about the 13 psi, i run 9.5 psi daily.... where can i get bigger injectors that will work for our msp's... and how much?

Rism
06-12-2004, 10:02 PM
Hmm thanks for all the replies everyone, i think imma hold back and just upgrade to downpipe w high flow cat, and greddy sp2 exhaut... and maybe a corksport S pipe,i was just wondering about the 13 psi, i run 9.5 psi daily.... where can i get bigger injectors that will work for our msp's... and how much?
Waste the cats they are worthless. All u need to pass emissions is to make ur own emissions sticker with ur home PC, and the cops will never know otherwise.

yanyan
06-12-2004, 10:05 PM
I was thinking about forgetting the cat, but then... i need it, cuz i need it to be quiet, my mom will murder me... i live at home still... shiznit.

low_psi
06-12-2004, 11:40 PM
Turbo XS high performance boost controller at 10 psi
this is what makes it alright :)

nah man, its no safe. you're fine at 10psi.

Horse
06-13-2004, 01:02 AM
All u need to pass emissions is to make ur own emissions sticker with ur home PC, and the cops will never know otherwise.

LMAO - I beg to differ.

(ps - I work for the PD!)

benimal
06-13-2004, 01:53 AM
Besides... 13 is an unlucky number. Try 12 or 14. :) j/k
I am gonna defer to the smarter guys and gals on the board cause they know their stuff better than I do.

Ben



Hmm thanks for all the replies everyone, i think imma hold back and just upgrade to downpipe w high flow cat, and greddy sp2 exhaut... and maybe a corksport S pipe,i was just wondering about the 13 psi, i run 9.5 psi daily.... where can i get bigger injectors that will work for our msp's... and how much?

Captain KRM P5
06-13-2004, 01:57 AM
side note, bigger injectors mean nothing on this car without engine management. period.

muohio
06-13-2004, 02:37 AM
I would really look into something like the Unichip and a FMIC with colder plugs to start with. From there you may want bigger injectors and fuel pump. Turning up the boost is not the best way to make a faster car IMO. You will get more from the car by making better use of a certain boost level when coupled with better fuel/air mappings and a FMIC. Also, decide what power you want out of your car and build to that point.

MazdaSP
06-13-2004, 04:51 AM
well if you plan to do it... turn the boost down in cold weather... you dont want to be at a 16 psi spike, i spike at 13 when i boost 10 in cold weather...

yanyan
06-13-2004, 11:15 AM
Hmmm i guess im gonna just stick to the 10psi that im at, and just beef up everything else... i wanna hit high 13's.. without boosting too much, i know it'll take time, but i got all the time in the world =)

speedhawaii
06-13-2004, 05:20 PM
it'll be possible. just practice.