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muohio
06-11-2004, 02:43 PM
Well, I'm about ready to buy the Unichip and see how it works out. Before I put down the ~$900, does anyone see a reason not to do this? If it is truly ready, I could order next week once I get back from Hawaii. I'm really tired of the jerky and hestitation and the fuel cut almost every morning and this seems like the best solution.

SoniCraze
06-11-2004, 02:46 PM
Go lift some weights to be ready for the massive torque steer your gonna get @ 13psi :D, or use the switch and run stock boost.

I love my unichip so far.

NoVaMSP
06-11-2004, 02:50 PM
Well, I'm about ready to buy the Unichip and see how it works out. Before I put down the ~$900, does anyone see a reason not to do this? If it is truly ready, I could order next week once I get back from Hawaii. I'm really tired of the jerky and hestitation and the fuel cut almost every morning and this seems like the best solution.
i know how ya feel , ive almost ordered it like 20 times this week alone.just not sure if its working right on flashed cars yet? any one know for sure?
fuel cut sucks

AutoBox
06-11-2004, 02:58 PM
thing im worried about is that i have no clue if im flashed or not......i got massive hesitation thanks to the warm weather but i got my car in november....so doesnt that mean the dealer was suppost to flash it? is there some way u can find out if it was flashed or not

celdridge
06-11-2004, 03:00 PM
thing im worried about is that i have no clue if im flashed or not......i got massive hesitation thanks to the warm weather but i got my car in november....so doesnt that mean the dealer was suppost to flash it? is there some way u can find out if it was flashed or not


Take it to the dealer and they will hook up the diag computer to your ECU and tell you in about 20 seconds if your flashed or not.

AutoBox
06-11-2004, 03:05 PM
oh great...my freakin dealer has shitty mechanics.....they say my "clunk" is because the car has sport suspension lol....get used to it:( ok i guess ill have to make an appointment now

low_psi
06-11-2004, 07:06 PM
what dealer?

mattybo
06-11-2004, 07:36 PM
wait till some real numbers come out my friend. Numbers without upped boost. I dunno how many times i have to say it but anyone will see an increase with upped boost.

Whats important is how this chip corrects the f*cked up ECU. If i see decent gains on a car with this chip (running stock boost) i will definitely purchase this chip without the boost controller.

SoniCraze
06-11-2004, 08:20 PM
I send Jack @ unichip a list of questions on this forum. He will have them answered by tomorrow, thats insane.

The unichip will work with both flashed and unflashed, a different map is not needed like was thought as the chip adapts around the car and its performance. Jacks answers will be more in depth so just hang on till tomorrow.

Btw, you will not be able to by the chip without the boost controller, if you could it would only knock off 80$. Just run it on the stock boost setting.

low_psi
06-11-2004, 09:16 PM
The unichip will work with both flashed and unflashed, a different map is not needed like was thought as the chip adapts around the car and its performance.
That is not 100% correct. If that were the case you could run a shitty base map that only gets the car started and the chip would adapt to throttle input, load etc and run well over at any RPM. The Unichip doesn't adapt, atleast in any of the research I've done.

Can you run the unflashed maps on a flashed MSP? Yes. The car will run, but will it be optimal and produce the same power? No. They need to release 2 different fuel/ignition maps for the car.

What's the point in tuning a car, if you're not going to do it correctly? Grr Pineapple, grr.

SoniCraze
06-11-2004, 09:43 PM
The information is from unichip, take it as that.

As far as 2 msp's making diff dyno, flashed vs unflashed. I thought the same untill we had both dyno'd. Same #'s.

muohio
06-11-2004, 10:02 PM
what dealer?

I only know of Corksport selling it online. I think iON might be but I haven't seen a thing on their site and I hate tracking down posts to get an answer. I'm not as concerned about the amount of power but rather being able to run ~10 psi safely without hestitation and fuel cut. I figure a EBC is about $200 plus another $100 for a FCD. That means the Unichip is only $600 extra which is good enough for me.

low_psi
06-11-2004, 10:29 PM
^^I was asking AutoBox about his Mazda dealer :)

SoniCraze, can you post the 2 dynos? so far I haven't seen a flashed MSP w/ Unichip dyno. I'm a bit confused as to how the Unichip can produce the same results while using one map for two different stock ignition maps. I'll talk to CS about this Monday when I call them back.

mattybo
06-11-2004, 10:31 PM
Don't bother talking to Corksport. They dont really know exactly what is going on, they just resell the chip. Wait for jack from unichip to answer your questions. He is the best source for information, and hopefully he will come through with some real information regarding flashed vs. unflashed and show us some numbers on a car with stock boost.

lamp3
06-12-2004, 12:26 AM
My concern is not wether the flasked and non-flashed cars make the same power, its if the FLASHED car makes the same power while detonating out the ass from the advanced timing....

low_psi
06-12-2004, 01:11 AM
exactly. trying to run the non-flashed tuning is just asking for detonation.

muohio
06-16-2004, 07:54 PM
Well, I went ahead and ordered mine today. I guess the units are already setup since they didn't ask any questions about parts already on my car. Probably have to get someone to program it on a dyno down the road.

low_psi
06-16-2004, 08:03 PM
awesome. let us know how it is since the maps are fine for flashed and unflashed ecu's. get dyno'd at stock boost and on the second map!

steve_protege
06-16-2004, 08:12 PM
I just wanna know if this Unichip will be available to me and my sedan when I go F/I in the future? Would the chip work well with my car if I don't plan on boosting anything higher than 7 or 8 psi?

muohio
06-16-2004, 09:57 PM
awesome. let us know how it is since the maps are fine for flashed and unflashed ecu's. get dyno'd at stock boost and on the second map!
I will probably have a local shop tune the Unichip and do dynos before and after. I'm not sure how long it will take to get in, but hopefully it will be soon :)

orangezoom
06-16-2004, 09:59 PM
I will probably have a local shop tune the Unichip and do dynos before and after. I'm not sure how long it will take to get in, but hopefully it will be soon :)
You can't tune these yourself can you?

orangezoom
06-16-2004, 10:00 PM
Did not one of the threads say you sent it back and for $30.00 they will retune it.

mattybo
06-16-2004, 10:04 PM
I will probably have a local shop tune the Unichip and do dynos before and after. I'm not sure how long it will take to get in, but hopefully it will be soon :)

yea having a shop tune it will run you another 2-300 bucks.

orangezoom
06-16-2004, 10:07 PM
yea having a shop tune it will run you another 2-300 bucks.
You probalbly need a special program that no one has to tune it. That would be my guess

mattybo
06-16-2004, 10:09 PM
You probalbly need a special program that no one has to tune it. That would be my guess

as long as they are certified unichip progammers he should be ok. Dyno time alone around here is around 85 bucks for 3 runs. So, im guessing he is gonna have to shell out alot to get it tuned the way he wants.

MazdaSP
06-17-2004, 12:34 AM
im working my ass off to get this as my next mod.., i wont reach 900 dollars until next year probably if i dont find myself a second job

well times like this im glad my dealership was a bitch about doing the flash for me...(they tried to make me pay for it), so i was like screw that and now i have no worries about the chip?

also if any of you run into any problems with the unichip make sure you tell us about it right away...

low_psi
06-17-2004, 03:20 AM
You probalbly need a special program that no one has to tune it. That would be my guess
you need the Unichip hardware and software which only Unichip certified tuners have. there are plenty of shops around with it.

I have NEVER heard of people paying for dyno tuning by the run! its usually $100-150 an hour for a decent dyno tune using a wideband o2. Jack said that for $35 you can have the unit remapped. that's if you want to use the maps they provide as you add upgrades to the car.

Jack @ Unichip stated that the timing was not touched in the RPM band the "flash" re-mapped. so for their 2nd map you'll be fine but once you start tuning @ higher boost pressures you'll most likely want to retard it a bit.

mattybo
06-17-2004, 04:24 AM
you need the Unichip hardware and software which only Unichip certified tuners have. there are plenty of shops around with it.

I have NEVER heard of people paying for dyno tuning by the run! its usually $100-150 an hour for a decent dyno tune using a wideband o2. Jack said that for $35 you can have the unit remapped. that's if you want to use the maps they provide as you add upgrades to the car.

Jack @ Unichip stated that the timing was not touched in the RPM band the "flash" re-mapped. so for their 2nd map you'll be fine but once you start tuning @ higher boost pressures you'll most likely want to retard it a bit.

is that when you are tuning it yourself or paying someone else to do it?

muohio
06-17-2004, 10:50 AM
is that when you are tuning it yourself or paying someone else to do it?
You would have to pay someone else to do it since only certified Unichip tuners have the software.

orangezoom
06-17-2004, 11:04 AM
I guess that is not bad $35.00 for re tuning. Sounds like you wont have to do it much the way people are talking when they order it they do not even ask what you are running that suprises me

muohio
06-17-2004, 11:51 AM
I guess that is not bad $35.00 for re tuning. Sounds like you wont have to do it much the way people are talking when they order it they do not even ask what you are running that suprises me
That surprised me as well since we have been talking about tuning for downpipes, intakes, and other parts up to this point. I'm not sure how Corksport deals with tuning since they have a 3rd party company doing the actual work.

low_psi
06-17-2004, 02:24 PM
is that when you are tuning it yourself or paying someone else to do it?
well I dunno how much Unichip tuners cost, but the ones Ive seen and had experience with are around 100-150 IIRC. maybe i'm way off, i'll double check with my buddy who just got his s14 tuned. these are top tuners in houston, who travel around the country as well, so its not billy-bob's motEr sh0p...

03MSPRO
06-17-2004, 02:40 PM
well I dunno how much Unichip tuners cost, but the ones Ive seen and had experience with are around 100-150 IIRC. maybe i'm way off, i'll double check with my buddy who just got his s14 tuned. these are top tuners in houston, who travel around the country as well, so its not billy-bob's motEr sh0p...
which shops in Houston are you talking about?

AutoBox
06-17-2004, 02:54 PM
anyone have a unichip tuner list? i would like to check these out

low_psi
06-17-2004, 04:09 PM
which shops in Houston are you talking about?
Jason @ Auto-logic and Tom @ Lightspeed Performance.

mattybo
06-17-2004, 05:36 PM
Jason @ Auto-logic and Tom @ Lightspeed Performance.

are these in MD?

blynzoo
06-18-2004, 11:51 AM
anyone have a unichip tuner list? i would like to check these outwww.unichip.us has a dealer locator.

EDIT: They have an email and 1-800 # so you can find a tuner near you.

low_psi
06-18-2004, 12:26 PM
mattybo-


which shops in Houston are you talking about?
Just shops I frequent in Houston.

mattybo
06-18-2004, 02:38 PM
mattybo-


Just shops I frequent in Houston.

bah! I cant seem to find one here in MD :(

muohio
06-24-2004, 06:24 PM
Just got mine today :) I can take pictures of it and while installing. What would people like to see in general?

ForceFed
06-24-2004, 06:26 PM
Just got mine today :) I can take pictures of it and while installing. What would people like to see in general?I would like to see me helping you install it!
Wanna do it tonight!
I wanna ride!
Matt

low_psi
06-24-2004, 08:01 PM
bah! I cant seem to find one here in MD :(call TurboXS and see who they recommend. they should know of ppl in the area since they used to be a tuner.

muohio
06-24-2004, 09:59 PM
It's installed and all I saw is WOW (shocked)(shocked)(shocked)

The install would probably take 30 minutes if my hands where smaller, had a flashlight, and could get the kick plate on the first thru tenth time. Other than that, it's as easy as hooking up a Playstation mixed with a MBC.

To the good part. The car is 100000% better IMO. The stupid sputtering and hestitation is gone from even earlier today. The power is amazing and so is the torque steer if you are not careful. Spoolup is faster than before and even 10psi feels stronger than 10psi with my Hallman MBC. I haven't watched the post closely as I'm nervous to full crank it out just yet (give me a few days :) ). I'm only running on Map A as I want to be a little conservative with my engine. I can only imagine how much better the car will feel when the downpipe is finally installed with an exhaust and then a FMIC.

To sum it up in a few words, "My car feels that way that it should have."

mattybo
06-24-2004, 10:05 PM
It's installed and all I saw is WOW (shocked)(shocked)(shocked)

The install would probably take 30 minutes if my hands where smaller, had a flashlight, and could get the kick plate on the first thru tenth time. Other than that, it's as easy as hooking up a Playstation mixed with a MBC.

To the good part. The car is 100000% better IMO. The stupid sputtering and hestitation is gone from even earlier today. The power is amazing and so is the torque steer if you are not careful. Spoolup is faster than before and even 10psi feels stronger than 10psi with my Hallman MBC. I haven't watched the post closely as I'm nervous to full crank it out just yet (give me a few days :) ). I'm only running on Map A as I want to be a little conservative with my engine. I can only imagine how much better the car will feel when the downpipe is finally installed with an exhaust and then a FMIC.

To sum it up in a few words, "My car feels that way that it should have."

*considers purchasing one*

Do you think most of the improvement is from the re-tuned ECU? I am planning in purchasing the chip, but continuing to use my Boost Sciences Dual MBC setup...

lamp3
06-25-2004, 12:07 AM
I wouldnt mind some pics =)

ForceFed
06-25-2004, 01:05 PM
Muohio...CHECK PM!

Matt