Interest in Turbo kit for Mazda3?

[HiBoost TS]

We would like to know if there is interest for a turbo kit for the Mazda3. We already developed kits for both the 2.0 and the 2.3 engine for the south american version of the Mazda6.

These are the same engines found on the US Mazda3 and just the intercooler piping would differ the kit from the already developed Mazda6 kit.

Kit would be around $3,800.00 and would produce around 240 WHP on the 2.0 and 280 on the 2.3.


Juan

[Dead Ringer]

I would be interested but would want more specifics... ie. what parts would come with the kit (type of turbo), can I run 91 pump gas, etc...

[Da 6]

can I run 91 pump gas, etc...Forced Induction Yep....to prevent detonation I'd suggest you use just that and higher.

[Nathan G]

OMGOMGOMG! Time to save up! I want a turbo in my 2.3 so bad!

[razorblade kiss]

OMGOMGOMG! Time to save up! I want a turbo in my 2.3 so bad!
Then wait for the MazdaSpeed 3, you'll get a warranty on your turbo.

[IllBinfrontofya]

3,800? JESUS man!! Unless it comes with all NEEDED accessories(fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, intercooler, piping, blow off valve, injectors, mainifold, etc) Becuase If i relaly wanted to, i could go down to a custom turbo shop and have them build me a setup reflecting one of the setups that will be out soon, and have them build me one for less.
Its just that . . . its almost 4K!!! That's enough for a NEW ENGINE in the car!!
Also, how much Tq would it be pusing. I don't know about you guys, but I'm WAY MORE interested in the tq then the hp. Also, are these #'s to the wheels or at the crank?

[Crzyone01]

3,800? JESUS man!! Unless it comes with all NEEDED accessories(fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, intercooler, piping, blow off valve, injectors, mainifold, etc) Becuase If i relaly wanted to, i could go down to a custom turbo shop and have them build me a setup reflecting one of the setups that will be out soon, and have them build me one for less.
Its just that . . . its almost 4K!!! That's enough for a NEW ENGINE in the car!!
Also, how much Tq would it be pusing. I don't know about you guys, but I'm WAY MORE interested in the tq then the hp. Also, are these #'s to the wheels or at the crank?
Agreed.... and have you guys even looked into the fuel management side of going forced induction on our cars ? I have been plotting a custom job on my car since I got the damn thing 6 months ago and asides from going a full blown stand alone unit or completely doign a custom re-flash on the ecu. The ecu currently in our cars will not allow boosting safely givne it's dynamic fuel map controlling capability even at WOT. Not trying to sound negative about this, I am more than happy some companies are taking in interest in our wonderful cars but until someone gives me a definitive answer to our a/f problem I have to call BS. Then again that just my $.02

-Phil Rogers

[IllBinfrontofya]

Well, seems like I'm not the only one here kinda droppin jaw at the price. Good to know too, becuase I can bet you anything the reason why our selection is always sooooo limited, is going to be because of the prices they put on our products!!! Only a select few can/will be able to buy the turbo set-ups(especially at 4K), and that will in turn make the selection smaller! We need to get some good companies that have the $$ to produce turbo setups, and sSTILL be able to sell at a lower price due to mass quantities!! You companies out there should make the price lower, say for the 19-27 year olds that are working F/T and payin rent,food,electricity . . in short . . THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY IT!!!!
Now, as for the ECU . . . SH*T!!! You're tellin me that my ECU's a/f mixture sucks nuts?? Well, that explains a lot of the problems this car has. The stuttering at lower Rpms, slow rise at higher rpms. I think Mazda was trying to limit the power this thing makes. I don't know about you, but I have owned 2 cars, both 1.8L engines. They had almost the same amount of tq this thing has, and ITS A 2.3L!! I know this engine has power WAITING to be unleashed, and it does weigh more!! But, I can feel it in the Accel. and feel of the engine! This car should be guzzeling up gas at WOT, but it somehow manages to use it sparingly!!!!!! Somebody make a flasher or a new comp. to work with it! I need power man!

[Captain KRM P5]

If the turbo kit for the Protege was any indication, than the HiBoost kit for the 3 will probably come with a Haltech fuel management system as well as being a complete kit, as someone above asked. The Haltech alone is a $1000 fuel control computer, which consists not only of a computer, but the sensors and harnesses needed to operate it. This unit would eliminate the need to deal with the stock ECU on tuning.

something that should be noted ; these cars, like the last Protege, use a Ford designed ECU. They have been notoriously difficult to flash by anyone other than Mazda and have also been very resistant to basic methods of fuel control like mechanical FMUs, Apexi AFC and eManage. What I have learned is that these ECUs need to be flashed at a very specific frequency for any programming to stick, whereas on your typical Japanese ECU, its a pretty standard frequency across the board.

the stated numbers above would be in wheel, not crank, horsepower. If Mazdaspeed does make a turbocharged 3, you would have the warranty attached this is true, but I'll go out on a limb to say in comparing all the Protege aftermarket turbo setups to the factory Mazdaspeed Protege setup that anything HiBoost offers is going to be far more potent and smoother than what Mazda will decide to go with on this car as well.

the 3000 to 4000 price range for an aftermarket turbo kit with front mount intercooler, computer controlled fuel system, ball bearing turbocharger, slimline fans and all the assorted intake and charge piping is pretty typical (in fact cheaper than most).

[GrEeNxEyeZz]

a lil off topic but, crank is "in theory hp" while at the wheel, is what it ACTUALLy does, ie dynos?

Back to topic, the 4k does seem a bit steep, however, like everyone elses concern, if it does include the necessary parts, fuel injectors etc etc, then by all means it to me seems "reasonably" priced, althought I always thought turbos were quite expensive =).

Aside from that, would you offer any package deals to have it in stalled as well? For people like me, that wont be able to do it themselves, would have to fork out another 2k + just to have it installed.

Well, im sort of 50/50 yes I am interested, if all req is met, and I am iffy with the pricing/install.

[IllBinfrontofya]

Well, if it comes with all of that, and a warranty on parts, then I'm pretty sure i would be willing to save up for that! The only problem is going to be that after you install it, there's def. not going to be a warranty anymore. If you can take it off and put it back on yourself, then you are a lucky bastard. As for people like me, I will probably end up just pushing the shit out of the engine (i got a 100K B to B warranty) till it blows, then once i get a new one I'll break it in, and then throw on the turbo.
Also, no one has posted the TQ #'s yet . . . . hmmmm that is kinda odd? I would think the TQ #'s would be Fing GREAT with this 2.3L?
One last thing, how much more strain would this put on the engine. Is this engine capable of running a turbo on stock internals (including the packaged injectors, etc.) for a extended period of time? I Just want to make sure, becuase i don't want to be adding a turbo at like 15-25K, and then have my engine blow at 60K! I ask because its been pretty damn hard to find out what the chassy can actually handel without warping under Tq, and what the engine is capable of doing without pushing limits.
Please do help . . .

[Captain KRM P5]

with proper fuel control (and thus, proper air/fuel ratios) both engines should be able to handle 7 to 10 pounds of boost on stock internals. what you also can get into, and I am sure Juan will offer it, is fuel AND timing control. once you can control both of those aspects you can run higher levels of boost.

greeneyez; crank horsepower is what the engine puts out at the crank - you lose some of that power in the drivetrain getting to the wheels which makes up wheel horsepower. For example, mazda lists the 2.3L at putting out 160 horsepower. this is crank horsepower. A mazdaspeed protege is listed at 170 hp, but on a dyno routinely puts down about 155 wheel horsepower. very few cars, like the SRT-4, are rated at 230 hp when in reality Dodge is underrating a car that puts down about 235 on a dyno :) but thats a whole 'nother topic.

installation/labor cost on a turbo kit should never go above the 500 to 700 price range. this kit is going to be pretty comprehensive for what you pay. If you think this is expensive then try being a Miata owner who has to shell out $5,000 plus for an FM turbo system with injectors and computer :(

keep in mind that there is probably nothing wrong with using stock injectors - its the ECU and how it is tuned to use those injectors that has the problem. change the computer and voila.

[AzMz3]

I'd be very interested if I could get it without the standalone. I just want the hardware. But the price is very good and I'm sure the torque numbers will be just as impressive as the HP. I'd just want to use a different type of tuning.

--Herb--

[Nathan G]

Then wait for the MazdaSpeed 3, you'll get a warranty on your turbo.
I couldn't afford to trade my current 3 in for the Mazdaspeed. I'd rather save up and get a warranty on a turbo that's just as good the Mazdaspeed version.

[Kain]

I couldn't afford to trade my current 3 in for the Mazdaspeed. I'd rather save up and get a warranty on a turbo that's just as good the Mazdaspeed version.
Warranty on the turbo, voided warranty on the car.

[Nathan G]

Warranty on the turbo, voided warranty on the car.

What are you saying? Bad idea?

I'm assuming that the turbo warranty would cover the engine. If it doesn't then screw it, I'm not rich and I'm not taking the risk. I'll slap a CAI, Exhaust and Headers and that's that.

However, the turbo should not void the entire car, just any warranty covering the engine. Am I right?

[HiBoost TS]

For everyone's information, this is not a kit that we will deisgn from scratch. The kit is already running in the Mazda6 for almost one year in both the 2.0 and the 2.3 liter. We just need to change the intercooler piping to fit the 3 front end.

The kit comes with everything needed to bolt it on. You don't have to buy even one screw to fit it in the car.

Included with kit:

Cast iron manifold
Cast iron downpipe
IHI VF22 turbo for the 2.0 liter (Full ball bearing)
Garrett GT30R for the 2.3 liter (full ball bearing) with external Tial 38mm W/gate
CAI Intake system
Intercooler piping
Spearco/HiBoost front mounted intercooler with cast aluminum polished tanks
Silicone hoses
SS clamps
SS bolts and fasteners
Haltech E6X engine control unit (pre mapped)
Steel braided oil feed and oil return lines
All fittings, adapters and brackets
Installation instructions.

Usually a kit with all these components would run between $5500 or $6,000

Juan

[n1smo]

When do you expect to have the kit out? So I'll know when to start living off of Ramen noodles.

[IllBinfrontofya]

I still haven't read the TQ #'s from you yet! :) Would someone please tell me thge #'s :) Also, if i wanted to up boost, i would have to get new injectors and pistons and rods and Rod bearings . . correct?

[Jliao]

Juan,

What happend to the turbo kit for the 6? When will it be release?

[HiBoost TS]

Juan,

What happend to the turbo kit for the 6? When will it be release?
Everything is ready except the mapping. I will have ready soon. The kits are being sold to Latin America only for now.

I will let you know inmediately

Juan

[Jliao]

Juan,

That's good news consider we haven't heard from you in a while. I'm highly interested in the turbo for the 6, so please keep me & us update on the release date and the final price.

[Nathan G]

umm...Juan... (hi)

Do you need a...uh...3 in the states for testing? :D

[Antoine]

Whether you realize it or not now...many of you will join the Dark Side (laugh)

I'm very interested to see what kind of performance (autox, 1/4 etc) a boosted 2.3 Mazda3 would have...:D

It will take some time but I won't be surprised when this community is crawling with boosted Mazda3 owners...

[Pirana]

Guys please dont complain about the prices. If you look at the Eldelbrock kit for the Civic is about $3,600, yes it comes with an Eldelbrock intake, but that is. 6psi for 170hp! No Haltech computer specially an E6X. You guys will love it and it will bring to the 3 a new element of power. (thumb)

[newblu3]

I would definately be interested in the turbo setup for the 2.3l. It probably wont be until the factory warranty is up (at the rate I am driving that will be 2 years) but the car will have a turbo on it if I keep it long enough. The price is reasonable and the hp numbers look very nice. I would like to see tourque numbers as well though.

Everyone just has to realize that you have to pay to play. If you boost your car there is always going to be a risk that something is going to happen, but if the car is tuned properly and taken care of there is no reason it should not last. Will it void your warranty? Yes you can pretty much count on your whole powertrain warranty being gone, but like I said before you must pay to play. You must know the risks involved and make an educated decision on what you do......I had 2 stock turbo cars before my 3 (a WRX and an Audi TT) and I am craving a turbo again. I love the styling and feel of my 3 and if I could have 280 whp to go along with it I would love it.......hopefully we will see the kit soon.

One question though, would you be developing a 2.5", or whatever size would be optimal, turboback exhaust to go along with the kit? Gotta let her breathe.

Thanks,
newblu3

[PhilGood]

Can the auto tranny hold this power? If so, this sounds very very attractive.

[Gbourdon]

Whether you realize it or not now...many of you will join the Dark Side (laugh)

I'm very interested to see what kind of performance (autox, 1/4 etc) a boosted 2.3 Mazda3 would have...:D

It will take some time but I won't be surprised when this community is crawling with boosted Mazda3 owners...
Hells yeah. I cant wai to start seeing numbers that boosted mazda 3s put down. Just by lookng at the number of turbo MP3s and P5s I'm sure its just a matter of time before we start seeing some FAST Mazda 3s.

Saddle up boys, tubo that bitch and see what it will hold.

[Crzyone01]

For everyone's information, this is not a kit that we will deisgn from scratch. The kit is already running in the Mazda6 for almost one year in both the 2.0 and the 2.3 liter. We just need to change the intercooler piping to fit the 3 front end.

The kit comes with everything needed to bolt it on. You don't have to buy even one screw to fit it in the car.

Included with kit:

Cast iron manifold
Cast iron downpipe
IHI VF22 turbo for the 2.0 liter (Full ball bearing)
Garrett GT30R for the 2.3 liter (full ball bearing) with external Tial 38mm W/gate
CAI Intake system
Intercooler piping
Spearco/HiBoost front mounted intercooler with cast aluminum polished tanks
Silicone hoses
SS clamps
SS bolts and fasteners
Haltech E6X engine control unit (pre mapped)
Steel braided oil feed and oil return lines
All fittings, adapters and brackets
Installation instructions.

Usually a kit with all these components would run between $5500 or $6,000

Juan
Since when does the Mazda6 run on a 2.0....and for that same matter what mazda 3s do you know of running the same engine as any 6?? The engine is not the same as in the 6 so yo umay want do do soem research on the 3s engine. And as far as the components and similar kits costing 5500-6000 that is just assinine the most expensive thing on the list is the Haltech and that can be had for less than $900...the VF-22 maybe $700 at the most if yo ulike gettign ripped off...I am failing to see where the enormous mark up in price is coming from. And yes before you ask I do know that when running a business that you are looking to make it a profitable one and so you should be entitled to but not at the cost of ripping off your customers; unless you have no ethics then by all means go ahead. Anyways jsut venting and im drunk so have fun.

[AzMz3]

Since when does the Mazda6 run on a 2.0....and for that same matter what mazda 3s do you know of running the same engine as any 6?? The engine is not the same as in the 6 so yo umay want do do soem research on the 3s engine. And as far as the components and similar kits costing 5500-6000 that is just assinine the most expensive thing on the list is the Haltech and that can be had for less than $900...the VF-22 maybe $700 at the most if yo ulike gettign ripped off...I am failing to see where the enormous mark up in price is coming from. And yes before you ask I do know that when running a business that you are looking to make it a profitable one and so you should be entitled to but not at the cost of ripping off your customers; unless you have no ethics then by all means go ahead. Anyways jsut venting and im drunk so have fun.

You really should not reply when you are drunk.......

The mazda 3 and the 6 do share the 2.3L.... (confused)

And if you can get a cheaper turbo then do it, and quite complaining!
This is a new vehicle and if you want some mods to make it fast quit bitching about the price, if you don't like it don't buy it.....It's not like they will lower the price because someone doesn't have enough to buy it.


---Herb---

[HiBoost TS]

Since when does the Mazda6 run on a 2.0....and for that same matter what mazda 3s do you know of running the same engine as any 6?? The engine is not the same as in the 6 so yo umay want do do soem research on the 3s engine. And as far as the components and similar kits costing 5500-6000 that is just assinine the most expensive thing on the list is the Haltech and that can be had for less than $900...the VF-22 maybe $700 at the most if yo ulike gettign ripped off...I am failing to see where the enormous mark up in price is coming from. And yes before you ask I do know that when running a business that you are looking to make it a profitable one and so you should be entitled to but not at the cost of ripping off your customers; unless you have no ethics then by all means go ahead. Anyways jsut venting and im drunk so have fun.
The only place where the Mazda6 comes with 6 cylinder is the US. In the rest of the world, it comes with either a 2.0 16 valve with no VVT and the 2.3 with VVT. These are exactly the same motors found on the Mazda3 in the US. There might be a slight difference, but inside the motors everything is the same.
Now, for the price, I am not saying it is going to be $5500 or $6000, I am saying that a kit like this from any other big company would be arond this. There is research, development, parts and manufacturing involved.

[GrEeNxEyeZz]

maybe he doesnt have the excat figures yet? and if he did say numbers people would say thats a lie and ask for dynos and when he doesnt produce dynos youll compain and say his full of shit and he will never pull through etc etc etc....so he is playing it safe keeping his mouth shut and probably awaiting the dynos or at least comming up with a better educated guess on what it should be, just BE PATIENT....please


i dont mean this as a personal threat, but from reading on MULTIPLE car forums, this is the stereotyped and most general way things tend to follow.

[Emode]

Id say some of you should show some respect to a vendor who has done a lot of cool things for the mazda community. The 3 is new but the protege has been around for a long time. They have had kits making lots of power for awhile and they know what they are doing. I really cant wait to see how the product all turns out, I dont think any of you will be let down.

[Dead Ringer]

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Dude CALM DOWN!! How old are you, I have NEVER seem someone soooooo impatient!! please re-read his first post

"We would like to know if there is interest for a turbo kit for the Mazda3. We already developed kits for both the 2.0 and the 2.3 engine for the south american version of the Mazda6.

These are the same engines found on the US Mazda3 and just the intercooler piping would differ the kit from the already developed Mazda6 kit.

It SOUNDS like they would need to make the kit for the American version still.. Please be patient and let them develop the kit, report the figures and then you can start to bitch to your hearts content, but this time KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!!!! Some (but im sure MOST EVERYONE) on this board does NOT like to read your immature post.... If you must cuss and use a rhino's dick in your post, why dont you go to another forum where the young and idiot post stupid comments like the one you did....

I dont know if the admin to these boards would allow for such rude and crude language, and I hope that he deletes your post (and banning you if this is how you react to someone who doesnt respond back to you in a timely manner)..

Don C.

[Captain KRM P5]

Id say some of you should show some respect to a vendor who has done a lot of cool things for the mazda community. The 3 is new but the protege has been around for a long time. They have had kits making lots of power for awhile and they know what they are doing. I really cant wait to see how the product all turns out, I dont think any of you will be let down.
took the words out of my mouth.

HiBoost has been developing turbo kits for mazda four cylinders for over a decade now. All he was aiming to do was gauge interest on a kit whose components haven't even been finalized yet. How the hell is he supposed to give you dyno numbers for something that hasn't even been finished yet? And before someone wants to sound off on that, he's not going to develop a kit if there is no interest which makes threads like this a nessecity.

If you want a good indication of a hp/tq ratio check the dyno sheets of his protege kit at www.hiboost.com (http://www.hiboost.com) And yes, I know its NOT the same engine, but those kinds of increases should tell you what to expect from a project like this.

As for cost, a Haltech fuel-only setup is around a grand, this is true. I'm going to hazard a guess by saying this car will require a fuel and timing solution because of the VVT, which is a tad more pricey than a fuel-only computer.

Juan is a great vendor who will answer all your questions with the information he has. Coming in to post rude curse-outs and drunken remarks is no way to treat a vendor who has been serving these forums long before the 3 even existed. Let's keep it clean and keep it professional.

[HiBoost TS]

I am used to this in all forums. I remember all what we took a year ago when we came out with the P5 turbo kit. Very few believed in what we were offering until the first kits were sold and the members saw the feedback from our customers. Now we are the only ones making a production turbo kit for the Proteges with all the goodies to enjoy up to 300WHP and 340 TQ.

Two weeks ago, we started selling the FMIC kit for the Mazdaspeed protege and there are some people criticizing the product. The truth is, that we can hardly keep the orders coming everyday and over 20 kits have alraedy been shipped in two weeks, while others have been waiting over three months for a kit from other vendors.

We will continue to bring good quality performance parts for the Mazda community.

Juan

[Matthew]

uh, ive seen the hiboost installed on a p5, and rode in it. and it would beat your 3 or 3s or 3 whatever in reverse. so the 3s will produce even more power. you are talking about a kit that at one point was designed from scratch and performed all the R&D by juan at hiboost...that costs money...now if our mazdas were a dime a fucking dozen like civics, the kit would maybe not be so expensive, because he could sell more...HOWEVER, this is one of the most complete kits on the market, and about the only kit i would speculate available for your car. SO CALM THE FUCK DOWN KIDDIES!

[IllBinfrontofya]

Dude CALM DOWN!! How old are you, I have NEVER seem someone soooooo impatient!! please re-read his first post

"We would like to know if there is interest for a turbo kit for the Mazda3. We already developed kits for both the 2.0 and the 2.3 engine for the south american version of the Mazda6.

These are the same engines found on the US Mazda3 and just the intercooler piping would differ the kit from the already developed Mazda6 kit.

It SOUNDS like they would need to make the kit for the American version still.. Please be patient and let them develop the kit, report the figures and then you can start to bitch to your hearts content, but this time KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!!!! Some (but im sure MOST EVERYONE) on this board does NOT like to read your immature post.... If you must cuss and use a rhino's dick in your post, why dont you go to another forum where the young and idiot post stupid comments like the one you did....

I dont know if the admin to these boards would allow for such rude and crude language, and I hope that he deletes your post (and banning you if this is how you react to someone who doesnt respond back to you in a timely manner)..

Don C.
Hey, don, how about you just shut your little mouth buddy! If you would have stoped writing a ego raising, ranting post that you just did, you would have noticed that after he posted the HP #'s I posted once to get the Tq #'s. He posted almost 3 - 4 times and each time i just kinda was wondering how he could responde back to other people's post, but was always able to not post ANYTHING on the TQ #'s. I never even got "We can't get the Tq #'s right now, sorry". So, maybe kinda gettin thrown to the side kinda got me a little mad. But, I was in no way dissing HiBoost's turbo setup. I may have done the SH*T stuff with the astrisk, but I'm not calling him a BIG huge RHIn.... I was saying the situation sucked big rihno . . So before you decide to write and call me an idiot and try to improve your self image/name on this board, read up on what you are writting about!
Now, to HiBoost, I'm sorry if I made it seem like i was putting down your turbo setup, even your company. All that i was trying to say morever was that, you ahve the HP #'s, so why couldn't you give out the Tq #'s also. I will apologize for anything that may have made you feel like i was making fun of you or your company!
Board members, I'm sorry if my language was to much for your eyes. I didn't want to offend anyone on this board, and of course I think my Big, HUGE, Rhino D**K shouldn't be mentioned again . . :) I'm sorry , I watched Boiler Room way to much that night!

[IllBinfrontofya]

maybe he doesnt have the excat figures yet? and if he did say numbers people would say thats a lie and ask for dynos and when he doesnt produce dynos youll compain and say his full of shit and he will never pull through etc etc etc....so he is playing it safe keeping his mouth shut and probably awaiting the dynos or at least comming up with a better educated guess on what it should be, just BE PATIENT....please


i dont mean this as a personal threat, but from reading on MULTIPLE car forums, this is the stereotyped and most general way things tend to follow.

I wasn't calling his 280 hp claim a lie, infact i hope it makes more then 280 :) I just wanted to know the TQ #'s, and he decided to not responde to my Q, not even with "Sorry, but at this time the Tq #'s are still in discussion." :)

[newblu3]

Like I posted before I look forward to seeing what this kit will do for the 2.3l 3s and I think the price looks to be about right. I am definately interested in a kit for this car but it may be 2 years or so until I could buy it. I am sorry if I upset some of the other members by asking the wrong question, wondering about a rough number for the anticipated torque output but isnt that a natural question to ask about a kit that will run about $5000. I have looked at Juans product online, done much reading and am confident that he does deliver a good product and has done a lot for the Mazda community. Having just joined the Mazda family and being a car lover I would like to realize the full potential of my car, so Hi Boost please develop on and once again I will say that I hope to see the kit out soon so we can see the turbo'd 3's out on the road.

Thanks,
newblu3

[mazda3zoom]

now i know its probably a while away, but is there any planned release time? like next month, next year?? just tryin ta get an idea so i know how long i have ta save up the $$$. ive had my car for just over 3 months and have 10,000 miles on it so if its gonna take any time at all my warranty should be up by the time i get one so i dont gotta worry about that.lol.

[Dead Ringer]

He posted almost 3 - 4 times and each time i just kinda was wondering how he could responde back to other people's post, but was always able to not post ANYTHING on the TQ #'s. I never even got "We can't get the Tq #'s right now, sorry". So, maybe kinda gettin thrown to the side kinda got me a little mad.!
so instead of ranting and raving on this board, did you try to call or email his company? Did you go to his companies website and look around?

But, I was in no way dissing HiBoost's turbo setup. I may have done the SH*T stuff with the astrisk, but I'm not calling him a BIG huge RHIn.... I was saying the situation sucked big rihno . . So before you decide to write and call me an idiot and try to improve your self image/name on this board, read up on what you are writting about!
uh, as you can see it was my second post, what/why do you think I would need to "improve my self image/name"? I am not here to sell anything, I will never meet 99% of the people on this board... what in the world would make you think I care what people on this board think of me??? I just dont want to read the crap you posted, I would expect a little more mature response from members of this forum, guess I was wrong (since you insisted on responding back to me the way you did)

Board members, I'm sorry if my language was to much for your eyes. I didn't want to offend anyone on this board, and of course I think my Big, HUGE, Rhino D**K shouldn't be mentioned again . . :) I'm sorry , I watched Boiler Room way to much that night!
that sounds like a civilized response, I am sorry we got off on the wrong foot, but I will be the first to say Im sorry for calling out your post. True you did ask for the tq numbers, but next time maybe just show a little more restraint, I am sure you would get the chance to see the numbers before you can even buy the kit.... peace (usa)

Don C.

[Sdrotary2]

it made over 300wlb-ft of tq on a fs 2.0 I saw it can make atleast that but likely more. I think Juan and highboost have excellent product and thank them for continuing to support the Mazda community, hopefully mx-5 soon too. I have a mule for you Juan here in the states.

[supa saiyan pr5]

This reminded me about about a year ago when Hiboost came on the scene...he had the same resistance on the protege section and he has proven himself and the company. Now he is one of the most respected vendors on the forum.
I think you guys should move your mouse down to the Forced Induction section and read up on the turbo kit that he designed for the PR5...And looking at the parts list for the 2.3 a GT30R $h1t that alone is some $$$$$$...and the e6x all in 1 package for less than 4 grand its a steal..


Jeremy

[supa saiyan pr5]

Mather of fact I'll be interested for all the people that aren't so that this turbo kit can get built. I would hate to see a chance like this get swept under the carpet.


.......Build this thing JUAN!!!!!!!!
You never know someone might reck my protege one day and then I'll have to get the Mazda3 and with those numbers...seeeee yaaaaaaaa zoom zoom

[Da 6]

to answer the q on engies....non us mazda 6 2.0 is the 3i 2.0 and non us and us mazda 6 2.3 is the 3s don't remember which engine is diesel....other than that the difrence is the block....duratec is the crap we get and the jdm guys get the other one with like 174hp IIRC...as stated he is reputable

[IllBinfrontofya]

so instead of ranting and raving on this board, did you try to call or email his company? Did you go to his companies website and look around?


uh, as you can see it was my second post, what/why do you think I would need to "improve my self image/name"? I am not here to sell anything, I will never meet 99% of the people on this board... what in the world would make you think I care what people on this board think of me??? I just dont want to read the crap you posted, I would expect a little more mature response from members of this forum, guess I was wrong (since you insisted on responding back to me the way you did)


that sounds like a civilized response, I am sorry we got off on the wrong foot, but I will be the first to say Im sorry for calling out your post. True you did ask for the tq numbers, but next time maybe just show a little more restraint, I am sure you would get the chance to see the numbers before you can even buy the kit.... peace (usa)

Don C.
Peace to all . . .

[splitvizion]

interested, but think the same about the price being way too high. Also need more specs and equip. coming with turbo setup would have to all be there for any price close to what you listed.

[mazda3zoom]

does anyone know an estimated time as to when this would be for sale???

[PhreakV]

interested, but think the same about the price being way too high. Also need more specs and equip. coming with turbo setup would have to all be there for any price close to what you listed.are you kidding? if you want cheap parts go buy a Honda (not an attack but a piece of advice :D ) seriously, most turbo kits offer some crappy fuel management system that is designed to just get you by and are not truly 'tunable'. the quality of parts and thought-out design are enough to justify the cost on almost any other car. the fact that its for the Mazda community and at this price is amazing. the Haltech will allow for much more than a PnP setup and help to fully take advantage of the potential of a turbo-ed 3.

let's see... some people are paying upwards of $1k for a FMIC alone to upgrade from the stock MSP side-mount, add $1k for a Haltech E6X at an amazing price and then take a look at it. you'd be paying about $1800 for the turbo kit that most people would sell to you. I just don't understand how people can bitch and moan about shit they apparently don't understand very well. find another way to get ~120 hp reliably for under $4k (without motor swaps)... go have fun looking for it, because you're probably not going to come anywhere close.

edit: what do I know, maybe the world is flat...

[SoCalMzda3]

I would be interested in buying a turbo kit. Keep us updated in the forum when you find out the date you can release it. thanks

[goldwing2000]

I'd be interested...

... AFTER somebody else guinea pigs it. :D

[MrTea]

I talked to Juan last night and am scheduled to go in for work on my car on the 22nd. this will be the finishing up, up the US spec system for their turbo for the 6.

[Rock]

Not to knock Juan out or anything but I have a few things that need to be answered as far as the turbo kit goes:
1)Looks like the kit does NOT come with any kind of fuel system upgrades. except for the Haltech unit.(which is VERY VERY good IMHO, great choice)
Is there any kind of fuel regulator,pump, injectors?
2)How much boost can a stock fuel system adequately handle?
3) if not looks like you might want to make your system in stages like stage 1(basic setup) Stage2(upgraded injectors, better fuel mapping,etc) stage3(bigger turbo, upgraded regulator,etc).
4)I Think it would be great to either post some dyno numbers with both HP and Torque @ set psi, or post your website where some dyno numbers maybe found.

Personally this looks like a very nice turbo system, and is pretty decent for the price. One of my concerns is will it be CARB legal for those in states like California.


My biggest concern is that I think the next biggest/best upgrade as far as getting power to the ground in the mazda 3 is LSD or quaiffe. I mean I heard about how the stock 3's have tons of problems hooking up at launch. Imagine adding another 60-80hp.........

Also not only are custom turbo systems cheaper, but they also are more powerful and upgradeable b/c they don't have to be CARB legal (gun)

Also I wanted to add, unless you are a professional installer or know how to work on a turbo system you are looking at paying some $$ for installation.
Also you may need to get the haltech system fine tuned to YOUR car even if the fuel map is pretty accurate.

[goldwing2000]

3) if not looks like you might want to make your system in stages like stage 1(basic setup) Stage2(upgraded injectors, better fuel mapping,etc) stage3(bigger turbo, upgraded regulator,etc).

I think somebody has been playing Need for Speed Underground too much. (ricer) (headbang)

[Rock]

HAHA nice one goldwing.
But seriously, it'd be good to make the setup upgradeable. without full fuel upgrade I'm pretty positive the stock fueling system can't handle more than 11psi max.

what he's offering is approx 9-10psi, maybe more depending on how much the haltech FMU is tuned.

P.S. needforspeed is too unrealistic for me (upyours)

[RODSCALIP5]

Any Updates :D???

[ARD MP5]

I briefly read thru some of the replies and figured I may have some input on a few things. First off, I own a Protege5 with the HiBoost Turbo kit. Also have spent quite a few years building up the protege as well as importing and distributing some of the more revered products from Japan available for our "Familia". My name is most likely new to your community but am quite veteran amongst other Mazda communities.

I opted to choose Juan's system because it was the most complete of any that have been or where available for the FS at that time. MY primary concerns were reliability over anything. Reliability was something I was and am willing to pay a higher price for. Juan's system and experience with these engines for the past ten years led me in only one direction. The VF22, hehe so I could tease my WRX buddies, spearco front mount, all cast piping, a cast manifold, haltech F10 or E6 option, slimline fans, HARDLY ANY CUTTING, NO RELOCATION, turbo kit for the protege5. Juan kinda came out of nowhere into our community and was served with the exact same kind of response. I liked the fact that it was almost "All or Nothing" with his kits. No starting off with mechanical fuel mgmt, etc... then stepping up the pump, then injectors, etc.... Just one shot and done. Prior to purchasing I made sure I saw factual results, i.e. dyno, and had numerous discussions about the setup and components of it with friends of mine.

I went thru both stages of development for the P5. Initally with an F10 and stock fuel injectors. Ran amazing boost the first week. After that the clutch was toast and anything above 5psi would further shred it. Second, we met up and installed the E6 with 440cc injectors to gain timing adjustment. Juan was quick with his installation, as if he had done it a million times, plus at about 6:30AM in the cold outside LA county air. LOL. WE then street and dyno tuned it for a brief period. I have been EXTREMELY satisfied thus far, just wish I had time to really really dial it in. While there is no pinging the car runs so strong I am concerned about it's longevity.

However, if you do consider purchasing a system be forewarned that these most likely will not be carb exempt. And the parts will only retain manufacturer's limited warranties. I know Juan stands by all his castings. Last I was told, my manifold has a lifetime warranty. I really really liked that. HE stands by his parts more than the collaborating manufacturers.

I only suggest purchasing a kit like this if you have the ability to tune such fuel management. If you can't, please be sure there is an available tuner and a "tuning specific dyno" available, in laymen's terms. Not a simple dyno you do power runs on. For those of you in the country, not like us city folk. I'm sure you can find an empty straight highway, get a good friend to drive the car, and tell him what to do. There are multiple places to find how to tune haltechs on the net. THe beauty of a haltech is its aftermarket support. Juan will always provide you with SAFE BASE MAP. Depending on your specific environments you will want to fine tune it after it's installed and everything checks out.

I highly suggest contacting your local trusted tuning shop and ask them to contact Juan so that they may install and tune this system for you. Juan is a very very very busy man traveling back and forth from his facility to Los Angeles to do all this R&D. He may be difficult to get a hold of but am sure he has the greatest intentions. He is an amazingly humble man.

Enough of my gibberish. Hope this helps build some anticipation. I know Juan can pull those numbers out of the 2.3 cause i'm doing some pretty good numbers at only 10psi. hehe. It's quite a surprise when a Mini Station Wagon that's front wheel drive not only walks away from WRX's, 350Z's, etc... but can also hang with the best of them in the corners.

I greatly hope that aftermarket support builds quicker for you guys than it did with us. I am collaborating on a couple of projects, namely Fiber Images' Mazda3 to be displayed at SEMA, so that's just a hint that we are again pushing hard to gain some functional and appealing performance parts for the axela. SELF PLUG: Juan, we want this turbo kit on their car BTW. We've already put it in the plans. So I hope you got one ready. SEMA is only a few months away.

Take care axela peeps,

Rishie

[DZnutz]

so whats the update on this?

[MrTea]

unfortunately Juan never called me back after several attempts. i was working on a mazdaspeed down in San Diego when i was supposed to go in for the install. as stated in prior posts, he's a really busy man, going around doing installs/tuning on some of the cars. So i guess i'll just wait for a return call or email from him, but i'm not sure how it's going, been a month since our original schedule.

[ARD MP5]

Ya many many times even his dealers have a very very difficult time tracking him down. I'm in the same situation. I love his product, but unless it can be supported I would be leary of purchasing it. Now if he contacted his dealer base more often so we could educate our customers it would take a lot of slack off his back.

This is why i've suggested either learning about doing this stuff yourself or having a competent tuner and turbo guy in your area.

Peace, Rishie

[sndsgood]

although it will be next year or the year after i will turbo my 3, and want a good setup. i'm sure once juan gets the turbo in a test car and gets things setup most peoples quesitons will be answered, and as for the price you gotta pay to play sure u can get other turbo systems for other cars cheaper, but thats what happens when u have a dozen diffrent turbo options. and the cheapers ones are generally junk. u pay for quality, if u think its' to much money stick with your high output sparkplugs and exhaust tips.

[morris]

Since when does the Mazda6 run on a 2.0....and for that same matter what mazda 3s do you know of running the same engine as any 6?? The engine is not the same as in the 6 so yo umay want do do soem research on the 3s engine. And as far as the components and similar kits costing 5500-6000 that is just assinine the most expensive thing on the list is the Haltech and that can be had for less than $900...the VF-22 maybe $700 at the most if yo ulike gettign ripped off...I am failing to see where the enormous mark up in price is coming from. And yes before you ask I do know that when running a business that you are looking to make it a profitable one and so you should be entitled to but not at the cost of ripping off your customers; unless you have no ethics then by all means go ahead. Anyways jsut venting and im drunk so have fun.

it seems you don't know much about pricing for a kit with these specs...I think the price is fair and I'm really interested in buying it... 280whp on stock internals???? that seems a little high and risky but if it's true I won't sleep till i have my track slips

[crossbow]

I'd say 240 WHP would be obtainable with these internals. 280 WHP...you'd have to start replacing axles and all sorts of crazy shit.

Remember that the 6i has a long stroke...the more boost you run, the more stress on those rods. Not to mention unless you do a FULL engine management system (piggy back's only temporarily work), you won't be able to fully control it =/. Stupid can bus....and wonderful canbus :).

[morris]

Not to knock Juan out or anything but I have a few things that need to be answered as far as the turbo kit goes:
1)Looks like the kit does NOT come with any kind of fuel system upgrades. except for the Haltech unit.(which is VERY VERY good IMHO, great choice)
Is there any kind of fuel regulator,pump, injectors?
2)How much boost can a stock fuel system adequately handle?
3) if not looks like you might want to make your system in stages like stage 1(basic setup) Stage2(upgraded injectors, better fuel mapping,etc) stage3(bigger turbo, upgraded regulator,etc).
4)I Think it would be great to either post some dyno numbers with both HP and Torque @ set psi, or post your website where some dyno numbers maybe found.

Personally this looks like a very nice turbo system, and is pretty decent for the price. One of my concerns is will it be CARB legal for those in states like California.


My biggest concern is that I think the next biggest/best upgrade as far as getting power to the ground in the mazda 3 is LSD or quaiffe. I mean I heard about how the stock 3's have tons of problems hooking up at launch. Imagine adding another 60-80hp.........

Also not only are custom turbo systems cheaper, but they also are more powerful and upgradeable b/c they don't have to be CARB legal (gun)

Also I wanted to add, unless you are a professional installer or know how to work on a turbo system you are looking at paying some $$ for installation.
Also you may need to get the haltech system fine tuned to YOUR car even if the fuel map is pretty accurate.

what he said! (nice questions)

need some answers...VERY interested

[morris]

I'd say 240 WHP would be obtainable with these internals. 280 WHP...you'd have to start replacing axles and all sorts of crazy shit.

Remember that the 6i has a long stroke...the more boost you run, the more stress on those rods. Not to mention unless you do a FULL engine management system (piggy back's only temporarily work), you won't be able to fully control it =/. Stupid can bus....and wonderful canbus :).


i'd be happy with 240whp as well...I'd still buy it

280whp seems a little risky.. but sounds wonderfull ... 13's here we come!

[Trdans]

I'm only a newbie to the forums & i'm been reading through the thread. I may have missed it but has anyone stated what sort of HP the engine internals or gearbox can handle? I've just sold an Aussie GC8 WRX with 190kws ATW's.
The gearbox's in the GC8's were prone to expiring easily & engine internals usually were at their limits from around the 170 - 200 kw's atws...
I'd be interested in a turbo kit for my 2.3 but would preferr to have a VF29 over a VF22 anyday