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TXMazdaSpeeder
05-28-2004, 05:29 PM
pics

batmang
05-28-2004, 05:44 PM
hey tx, what diameter size is the piping where the air filter connects? is it 2.5" or 3" ?
im gonna be buying a new filter after work today.

TXMazdaSpeeder
05-28-2004, 05:45 PM
hey tx, what diameter size is the piping where the air filter connects? is it 2.5" or 3" ?
im gonna be buying a new filter after work today.

3", i need another filter, the vato zone filter sucks

batmang
05-28-2004, 05:46 PM
they sell k and n ones at auto zone/checkers dont they? i wanted to buy the hks filter cause it wouldnt be hitting so much of the headlight.

TXMazdaSpeeder
05-28-2004, 05:47 PM
mine doesnt touch the headlight

p5sundevil
05-28-2004, 07:31 PM
mmm, get the Apex'i filter....tested to be the bestest evar =)

no really seemed to have best flow out of all filters along with filter life and cleaning abilitiy, I heard the HKS mushroom style had great flow but let a decent amount of particles through.

Gen1GT
05-28-2004, 07:36 PM
Ya, the APEXi filter is the best. It's got a funnel and a horn in it, plus it's supposed to filter the best too. I tried to get one, but the adaptor to connect to my AFM was too big. I'll have to shorten my intake first.

R2Di2Dc2Do
05-28-2004, 08:31 PM
hey i got a ?. will the apexi 80mm filter the protegegarage sells fit on the injen cai or do i have to get one with an adapter? basically which size do i need?

oh and that does look good TX. are you gonna make a heat shield for it?

TXMazdaSpeeder
05-29-2004, 03:43 AM
hey i got a ?. will the apexi 80mm filter the protegegarage sells fit on the injen cai or do i have to get one with an adapter? basically which size do i need?

oh and that does look good TX. are you gonna make a heat shield for it?
not really any reason to, that area has fairly cool air, im gonna take the drivers side headlight out next time i go to the track.

CanMP5
07-13-2004, 02:46 PM
I know this is an old thread revisited... but looking at those pictures shouldn't getting the auto tranny SRI be the same thing for those who haven't already purchased the manual SRI?

akhilleus
07-13-2004, 03:02 PM
U should run a pipe from the fender well to the filter and then box the area in with a heat shield.

Gen1GT
07-13-2004, 08:26 PM
What's the deal with the FS throttle body? How does the intake/TB/manifold all work there. It's hard to see in that picture, but does something make a 90 degree turn there? Anyone got a pic of the intake/tb/manifold?

daKiNeP5
07-14-2004, 04:16 AM
U should run a pipe from the fender well to the filter and then box the area in with a heat shield.
I know you probably wouldn't feel the difference but is there a difference if you do this? What is a good material to make a heat shield with?

FunkyBuddha
07-16-2004, 06:54 AM
I did that too a few months back. Turned my sri to sit behind the headlight. Kinda ghetto right now but works better. The pipe stays cooler and plus I don't have any weather stripping since i have a carbon hood. Air gets in better. Noticed the throttle response is a bit better, sound is louder, and less heat soak from the radiator = cooler air. My car doesnt feel bogged down after some time in the heat/traffic.

TXMazdaSpeeder
07-16-2004, 12:03 PM
What's the deal with the FS throttle body? How does the intake/TB/manifold all work there. It's hard to see in that picture, but does something make a 90 degree turn there? Anyone got a pic of the intake/tb/manifold?
i can go take a pic of alll that on mine here in a few minutes.

TXMazdaSpeeder
07-16-2004, 12:08 PM
http://www.msprotege.com/members/TXMazdaSpeeder/P2110008.jpg

TXMazdaSpeeder
07-16-2004, 12:08 PM
http://www.msprotege.com/members/TXMazdaSpeeder/P2200006.jpg

Gen1GT
07-16-2004, 08:29 PM
Thanks man. Hmmm, looks like the 3rd gen is dying for a battery relocation.

edit..LOL..it took you 5 minutes to take the pics and post them....good job!

1Canuck2
07-17-2004, 01:25 AM
The automatic version of the short ram is a lot shorter. It doesn't reach over to the left of the engine bay as far. Here's an old pic of my engine bay:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robin.smith1/Engine.jpg

TXMazdaSpeeder
07-17-2004, 01:51 AM
Thanks man. Hmmm, looks like the 3rd gen is dying for a battery relocation.

edit..LOL..it took you 5 minutes to take the pics and post them....good job!


actually i had them on my comp already, notice the blue tube turns into a filter, creepy eh?

Gen1GT
07-17-2004, 06:36 AM
You know, as much as I know about cars, I don't know what those are? Is that the PCV valve?

CitizenPro
07-17-2004, 12:08 PM
The automatic version of the short ram is a lot shorter. It doesn't reach over to the left of the engine bay as far. Here's an old pic of my engine bay:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robin.smith1/Engine.jpg gawd, i hate looking at that AT intake......completely worthless, i dont what AEM was thinking at the time (hand)

1Canuck2
07-17-2004, 02:20 PM
I like my AEM SRI and would refute that it is completely worthless. Have you ever driven a car fitted with this model?

It does make a difference, and I also think it looks good in the engine bay, and those were my two criteria for purchasing it:
1. Get rid of the ugly black plastic and
2. improve on the restrictive intake of the stock system.

The reality of the SRI vs CAI in our cars is there is no huge difference between the two, and there is no huge gain from either. My butt dyno notices a difference in what I would call "throttle response", and it sounds good to my ear, thus it can hardly be "completely worthless". I have also not noticed any degradation in performance from heatsoak that everyone says "should" happen. There have been so many back and forth discussions about which is better and why. And I have yet to hear anything conclusive that proves that the CAI is a noticeable improvement over the SRI, just people opinions and feelings.

My friends Mustang GT got 9 HP (dynoed results) out of a K&N SRI with heatshield, now that is $300 well spent! For the same money with a Mazda CAI or SRI mod we get 1 - 2 hp tops. Another few hundred $s on underdrive pulleys and he got 5 HP more. He justed added a $500 throttle body and got another 5 HP. From 228 HP to 247 HP for about $1300 US in parts.

CitizenPro
07-17-2004, 05:02 PM
I like my AEM SRI and would refute that it is completely worthless. Have you ever driven a car fitted with this model?

The reality of the SRI vs CAI in our cars is there is no huge difference between the two, and there is no huge gain from either. My butt dyno notices a difference in what I would call "throttle response", and it sounds good to my ear, thus it can hardly be "completely worthless". I have also not noticed any degradation in performance from heatsoak that everyone says "should" happen. There have been so many back and forth discussions about which is better and why. And I have yet to hear anything conclusive that proves that the CAI is a noticeable improvement over the SRI, just people opinions and feelings. LOL.....dont take it to heart. I actually have driven a P5 with that model intake, and at the time wasnt looking for any differences. BUT!! i can tell you that you are gathering much more heat than the "rerouted AEM MT intake", since it sits so close to the engine. Boxing in the filter (rerouted intake) with a heat shield would be even better, since you can still get cooler air coming in from the hole where the CAI goes through (with the help of a custom ram air kit :D). I used to have the Injen CAI, so i know the differences.......and yes, you get much better throttle response with the SRI than you do with the CAI......deciding which one is better is up to the buyer.

Here's an old pic of the AEM AT SRI: brought to you by 1Canuck2
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robin.smith1/Engine.jpg

Pic of the rerouted AEM MT SRI: brought to you by CitizenPro

1Canuck2
07-17-2004, 05:34 PM
I am not "taking it to heart", I am simply disagreeing with a statement that I feel could mislead people. No biggie, but I gave my two cents.

This subject seems to come up time and time again with people spewing all different kinds of "knowledge" on the subject. All I can tell you is I "feel" the difference is not worthy of argument. I don't have scientific proof, but then no-one has presented proof to convince me that CAI is better. I think the heatsoak issue is a fallicy though as the CAI is longer and also gets hot from just being in the engine bay. Any difference in air temp is probably offset by the difference in airspeed/pressure (using the long straw / short straw logic) to the point of my original statement that there are not much gains to be had by either and not much difference between the two.

Here's another exciting thread from recent days on the subject:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72400&page=3&pp=20

FC3s Boy
07-17-2004, 05:46 PM
I got some monsterflow foam filters for $40.00 shipped (they are 3")

CitizenPro
07-17-2004, 05:51 PM
I got some monsterflow foam filters for $40.00 shipped (they are 3") (thumb) good 'ol FC3s Boy tryin to make a sale.


1Canuck2: Its cool bro......we all have our opinions.

fLyPiNoY7
07-17-2004, 08:29 PM
i gotta change my filter too...but im looking to a k&n filter...anyone kno what model is needed for this?...i think the apex-i filter with 75mm will fit on this too but its a bit too expensive...

Gen1GT
07-17-2004, 09:24 PM
Well for Pete's sake...a bunch of you need to get together, pay for some dyno time, and dyno each person's car with both CAI and SRI. THEN, with the same car and intakes, you need to hit the drag strip, and with the same driver, do runs on both cars, with both intakes. THEN we'll see which is better..no arguing.

Who's gonna take up this challenge? You'll be a pioneer. It's almost hard to believe, that with the SRI/CAI controversy, that it hasn't been done already by some tuner magazine. Canuck, which do you have? We'll find someone from the torontoprotege club with the opposite kind, I'll pay for HALF of the dyno time($85, and you and the other guy can pony up $40 each, since both cars have to be tested with both intakes for consistancy), then I'll drive both cars down the strip at Cayuga, with each intake tried out. You in?

p5sundevil
07-17-2004, 09:38 PM
lol, the ultimate test =)

I had a SRI and now I have a CAI, didnt notice a throttle response difference but I always rev to at least 1500(1.5k daily, 3.5k on launches) before going anyway so nvr have any sluggish response off the line. Basically I switched cause at the time no one had rerouted the AEM and the CAI's were the only ones I believed to actually be bringing cool air into the system. Only thing I would upgrade now is if I could upgrade my intake piping from alumnium to CF.....mmmm carbon fiber

1Canuck2
07-17-2004, 10:29 PM
Gen1, I see you posted in othe other thread too. I am not that interested in investing money to prove my point. I am convinced enough to satisfy me that there is no difference worth all these posts (yet still I post).

You'll note that MPChi thinks the SRI conversion of his CAI is better, and there was someone else recently who posted something similar. If those guys think SRI is better, I am satisfied in my assersion that SRI is NOT WORSE. Beyond that, I'll keep posting this point of view when the opportunity arises and not be bothered by those who remain unconvinced.

Thanks for the offer though, its good of you...

twilightprotege
07-18-2004, 05:20 AM
i think that you'll all find that an SRI make more power on a dyno, but a cai will make more real world power - ie when the bonnet (hood for you yanks) is closed

but we're seriously only talking such a small amount of power - just buy what you want to buy and be happy :D

Gen1GT
07-18-2004, 09:03 AM
Screw intakes! Individual runner throttle bodies! Ah yeah!

FC3s Boy
07-19-2004, 12:36 PM
(thumb) good 'ol FC3s Boy tryin to make a sale.


1Canuck2: Its cool bro......we all have our opinions.that's what i do here....lol

TXMazdaSpeeder
07-19-2004, 03:32 PM
You know, as much as I know about cars, I don't know what those are? Is that the PCV valve?

its the breather for the crankcase

ProDriva
08-01-2004, 02:38 AM
This maybe stupid, but can you use the AEM SRI for the Manual Trans. on an Automatic Trans.(scratch)

FunkyBuddha
08-01-2004, 02:44 AM
no..the tranny is bigger on the AT cars.

1Canuck2
08-01-2004, 09:53 AM
AT can be used on manual but not the other way around. Hence the reason they created a AT version, as the manual version wouldn't fit.

CitizenPro
08-01-2004, 07:55 PM
This maybe stupid, but can you use the AEM SRI for the Manual Trans. on an Automatic Trans.(scratch)
Yes you can.....just turn it sideways. Same way as this thread shows you.

1Canuck2
08-02-2004, 12:49 AM
Well duh, how stupid am I. That was the original point of this thread, so of course CitizenPro is correct. In fact, the Manual version will move the filter itself further over to the side, over the hole where the CAIs go, so its prolly the best buy if you agree with all the heatsoak stuff that pops up in the CAI vs SRI debate.