Alignment Spec Question - Toe in or out up front?

[brianmcd]

So...should I get toe in or toe out up front?

~brian

[DistantTea]

zero

Zero the car all around with toe. Then scribe the bolt settings. Then one day when you need it you can dial in some toe out or in as needed. But zero toe in the front is best IMO anyways.

[brianmcd]

One guy I asked said it'd makeet he car "twitchy" with 0 toe up front, any truth to that? thanks.

~brian

[DistantTea]

Twitchy? If zero toe up front makes a car twitchy my car has goddamn turrets syndrome.

You're wanting an autocross alignment right? Take it to a Pro shop and tell them "I want an autocross alignment" or if you have the cash take it to a shop and say "I want cornerweighted and an autocross alignment" Dollars to donuts the more camber they dial in up front the less toe you'll see.

[brianmcd]

Yeah, I'm wanting an autox alignment that I can drive daily on the street and not destroy my tires. I'm taking it tomorrow so I'll see what they say.

~brian

[Leigh]

it would take some toe out to make a car "twitchy" I think - and even then I'm not sure how much you'd notice day to day.

If you AutoX on your street tires (like me) the alignment won't have a chance to wear out the tires, the autocrossing will trash them first.

Camber is more likely to wear than toe I think - though the MSP comes set up with a bit of neg camber from the factory if I'm not mistaken...

[brianmcd]

I went with as much neg camber as possible up front, 0 toe all around, and 0 camber rear. We'll see how much camber they could get out of it in a couple hours.

~brian

[starflare21]

Camber is more likely to wear than toe I think - though the MSP comes set up with a bit of neg camber from the factory if I'm not mistaken...
too aggressive toe settings will trash your tires faster then camber will. a common misconception is that loads of camber will kill the tires because you can see it, with toe settings it's harder to gauge by eyeballing it. i've had several cars with a good noticeable amount of negative camber and good toe settings dialed in, run for several thousand miles for some road race track days and regular street use. they wore fine vs. having outrageous toe settings. that's why toe in and toe out respectively can be used for better higher speed stability or better lower speed cornering, they each trade off when transitioning to the other.