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Orangespeed_03
05-24-2004, 12:11 AM
Which brand is the best to use on the msp??

Dr.Sound
05-24-2004, 12:24 AM
the cheapest and the one that works for most users is Joe P MBC XZ.
http://www.joepmbc.com/mazdaspeed.htm

mspeed101
05-24-2004, 12:44 AM
Id go with either boost sciences or turboxs dual stage mbc

Orangespeed_03
05-24-2004, 12:51 AM
What model from boost sciences??

Dr.Sound
05-24-2004, 12:51 AM
turbo xs is very good too
that would be my next choice before going EBC, but for the money Joe P is the best.

Notorious
05-24-2004, 12:56 AM
I have the turbo xs, the only thing about the xs that is better over the joe p is the ability to return to stock boost. For the money Joe P all the way.

Dr.Sound
05-24-2004, 01:02 AM
the ability to return to stock boost = your ability to take MBC off :D

















P.S. Peter is a n00b :P




















j/k bro, Wassup dude! how u been?

Notorious
05-24-2004, 01:08 AM
hahah I have been bested, wassups man, hopefully I'll make one of the LA meets next week, by then the car should be pretty close to done.




the ability to return to stock boost = your ability to take MBC off :D



P.S. Peter is a n00b :P






j/k bro, Wassup dude! how u been?

505zoom
05-24-2004, 01:24 AM
What model from boost sciences??

Accuboost, if you want to switch back to stock *from the cabin* (no shit please Doc:)), get the Dual stage 1 package. It is not up on the website yet, but it will be soon. If you contact BoostSciences, Cliff will get you squared away.

Dr.Sound
05-24-2004, 01:34 AM
haha!
have i ever given you shit 505??? :D

yeah, those dual stage boost controllers are awesome.
it cured the spiking that some people got with Joe P MBC's.

krillin
05-24-2004, 02:37 AM
just get the greddy profec b like me...
^_^

Wingman21
05-24-2004, 11:35 AM
All you guys with an MBC, did you replace the hose that goes to the wastegate or just cut it a little at the end to place the MBC !???

BOOSTR
05-24-2004, 11:47 AM
Replace the hose. The stock hose gets too hard and will crack. Run a new one while your down there. You will have to cut the old one away with an xacto-knife or something like it. The stock one is one there real good.

Dr.Sound
05-24-2004, 04:51 PM
didnt replace mine.
just cut off a little at the end, used a pass-through fitting and 2 inches of regular 3/16 hose.

Wingman21
05-24-2004, 05:40 PM
didnt replace mine.
just cut off a little at the end, used a pass-through fitting and 2 inches of regular 3/16 hose.
Whats a "pass-through" !? A "T" with only 2 end ?

SpicyMSP
05-24-2004, 05:41 PM
Vic is ten n00b

Dr.Sound
05-24-2004, 05:43 PM
yeah, it's an "I" :D

505zoom
05-24-2004, 06:03 PM
Just take the whole line off, it's crappy hose. I put up a short how-to on removing that entire vac line assembly in one piece, so it can be replaced later if need be. I can't remember where it is though.

KyRaceFan
05-24-2004, 06:16 PM
Im about done with my JoeP MBC... works fine till 10 or 11psi, but with the new exhaust, anything about that and it spikes out of control and is causing some major headaches.

I stand by Joe P's products, but there are better MBCs out there...

If you want to spend the money, the new Halman in-car MBC is absolutely pimpin...
Works very well.

Dr.Sound
05-24-2004, 06:23 PM
Just take the whole line off, it's crappy hose. I put up a short how-to on removing that entire vac line assembly in one piece, so it can be replaced later if need be. I can't remember where it is though.hey 505,
remember that letter that i was talking about few months ago?
the one that dealers got saying if the wastegate line is repplaced then it is a first sign that people have been using boost controllers. and they will deny you worranty just based on that one hose.
it has been done.

in your case u might not care as much about your worranty as others that are only looking at simple mods.

be carefull with what you repplace.

NoVaMSP
05-24-2004, 08:05 PM
im using a turbo smart single stage ... works perfect off=stock boost , on = set boost
its nice cuz u can turn it off with supplied toggle , mines hidden - for times when your in traffic or some one else is driving your ride. aprox 175$$

505zoom
05-24-2004, 10:27 PM
hey 505,
remember that letter that i was talking about few months ago?
the one that dealers got saying if the wastegate line is repplaced then it is a first sign that people have been using boost controllers. and they will deny you worranty just based on that one hose.
it has been done.

in your case u might not care as much about your worranty as others that are only looking at simple mods.

be carefull with what you repplace.

I remember that, and I also feel that is even more reason to do it the way I did. I took the entire piece off (all 3 lines and the T) without cutting any lines. If for some reason I did need to change back to stock (not likely anymore with the internals I am getting:)), I could put the entire assembly back on with no evidence that it was ever off. The guys that are cutting their wastegate hose do not have that luxory, as they have to replace the hose that goes from the T to the wastegate when they take off the MBC. If you take the entire thing off and make a new one, you can put the stocker back on when you need to. (drinks)

Dr.Sound
05-25-2004, 08:50 AM
ahh, gotcha!
very good idea.......

usually what people do is they try to fit the stock hose on MBC....
it cracks and breaks.......
they then cut off a little bit and try again, and again it cracks and breaks.......
then they just take the whole mutilated hose off and replace it with a different one......
so now they dont have a luxury of going back :)

Wingman21
05-25-2004, 10:53 AM
You could always say that the hose cracked by itself and that you replaced it because you had leak :) !!!!!!

jersey_emt
05-25-2004, 10:56 AM
You could always say that the hose cracked by itself and that you replaced it because you had leak :) !!!!!!
(werd) My stock wastegate line cracked, and I spiked to 14psi. I've never had a boost controller on my car, and I don't plan on putting one on until my warranty is up.

I'd love to see somebody TRY to deny me a warranty claim because I replaced a faulty part with something that EXCEEDS OEM specs.

BOOSTR
05-25-2004, 11:30 AM
No doubt. On my MSP and others, the stock hose was a piece of shit. Whatever way you do it, it should be replaced EBC/MBC or no BC!

sickspeed94
05-25-2004, 12:20 PM
i JUST ordered myt MBC, could someone please post a link to that "how-to" that was mentioned earlier on how to remove the whole fixture so that it may be replaced later on, i would really like this since i might need to go back fopr warranty work some time, any help would be appreciated. thank you.

ZMN BY U
05-25-2004, 02:31 PM
I use the turbo smart mbc. the only problem i see is its not very sensative you have to turn it about 7 times to get a good amount of boost out of it. But i like it easy to use and only cost about 80.00. But even with turning it all the way down i still get boost spike until about 9lbs. then drops off to 6lbs But i keep it right at 11psi and it will drop to about 9lbs and hold there so it does spike some.

Dr.Sound
05-25-2004, 02:41 PM
You could always say that the hose cracked by itself and that you replaced it because you had leak :) !!!!!!and they'll tell u that this is what u have road side assistance and worranty for :)

Dr.Sound
05-25-2004, 02:45 PM
i JUST ordered myt MBC, could someone please post a link to that "how-to" that was mentioned earlier on how to remove the whole fixture so that it may be replaced later on, i would really like this since i might need to go back fopr warranty work some time, any help would be appreciated. thank you.505, it's all u bro