auto tranny WTF?

[gimpo2]

ok so i got a flat and put on the spare... then after i put the regular wheel on i got to start the car, when i try to take it out of park the shift lock won't disengage... so i stick the screwdriver in the hole and unlock it. when i put it into drive it automatically goes into 3rd gear safety mode or somebull shit.. keep in mind that my A/T light is NOT on... and it was running perfectly fine before i put the other wheel back on... the only thing i did wrong was i jacked it up before i took off my lugs............. has anyone experienced this? did i kill the tranny?

[eting_pro5]

That is fucked.

The owners manual states this:

If the shift lever won't move from P with the brake pedal depressed ,continue to hold down the brake pedal.

1) Insert a screwdriver into and push down on the shift-lock override.
2) Move the shift lever
3) Take to a Mazda Service Dealer for inspection

I'm guessing it's in a safe mode and just needs to be reset. I'm checking the shop manual now.

[Roywhitep5]

oh well... time for a manual tranny swap. mp5jeff can give you details if that is the case

[gimpo2]

yeah i was thinking about doing that but now i don't hav the money for it. i need a cheaper fix at the moment

[gimpo2]

AAAARGH this is making me mad... what pisses me off even more is that i didn't even have a hole in my fucking tire. some fucker just let out all of the fucking air in it.. somehting that takes a quarter to fix for air at the gas station is turning into something really big...

[eting_pro5]

Well I've determined your car is in "fail-safe mode" meaning it's not totally f'ed. I'll try to figure out how you can reset it tomorrow, but it's bed time now. If you get antsy, just take it to the dealer and they can reset it.

I also have the issue that I'm looking at an '02 shop manual, meaning it's not the Sport Auto.

If someone has a link for an online workshop manual for the '03 Pro5, it'd be appreciated.

[eting_pro5]

fail-safe mode is third gear all the time...

[eting_pro5]

And just so you know....there is a fairly long list of serious issues that could cause it to go into fail-safe mode. Dealer may be a good option right about now.

[gimpo2]

fuck man i just took off the lugs and put the back on while the car was jacked up... i think thats why its fucked up... FUCK!

[eting_pro5]

The following cause the tranny to go into fail-safe mode:

a) Short or open circuit in wiring
b) Poor connection of connector
c) Disconnected shift solenoid connector
d) Poor ground of shift solenoid

I'm still looking into it. How much effort were you putting into loosening/tightening the lugs? I can't imagine it having much of an affect. Maybe you jacked up in a bad spot and pinched a wire?

[gimpo2]

The following cause the tranny to go into fail-safe mode:

a) Short or open circuit in wiring
b) Poor connection of connector
c) Disconnected shift solenoid connector
d) Poor ground of shift solenoid

I'm still looking into it. How much effort were you putting into loosening/tightening the lugs? I can't imagine it having much of an affect. Maybe you jacked up in a bad spot and pinched a wire?
those lugs were on there pretty tight. i had to stand on the wrench and hop on it to get it to loosen them. i put the jack at the hard point where i was supposed to

[gimpo2]

but there's always the possiblity that my turbo killed the tranny... but i can't point the blame directly at it cuz of the circumstances.. and i don't wanna take it to the dealer cuz of the turbo...

[eting_pro5]

You were hopping on your wheel when it was jacked? That doesn't seem like the smartest thing in the world to me. Didn't it occur to you as you were jumping on an elevated car "WAIT! I'm supposed to loosen the lugs on the ground!"

I'm gonna look at some wiring diagrams now to see if there's anything fuses/relays you can check? Do you know anything about wiring/electricity?

[gimpo2]

yeah i'm pretty good with wiring and shit, i just hate missing with it cuz its a headache

[eting_pro5]

OK, I give up. If you don't want to take it to a dealer take it to some other shop where they can use an OBD II scanner to see if theres a DTC (code) that reveals what the problem is.

[Brian MP5T]

Dealer...!!! I agree.

[eting_pro5]

Even if you've voided warranty with your turbo, you can still take it to your dealer. I'm guessing if it's one of the four wiring/solenoid/ground issues it can't be that much to fix.

[gimpo2]

well i just dropped my car off at the dealer.. now to just wait and see what they say... the service manager said something about you're not supposed to put the spare on the front because of the difference in wheel size from the spare and the other front tire and it fucks with the open differential or soemthing

[MonsterB]

well i just dropped my car off at the dealer.. now to just wait and see what they say... the service manager said something about you're not supposed to put the spare on the front because of the difference in wheel size from the spare and the other front tire and it fucks with the open differential or soemthingso then the stock spare then will mess your car up if you use it on the front? sounds like a load of crap to me, I highly doubt mazda would spec their cars with spare tires that will damage the car itself....Id say that dealer has some issues, sounds like he is looking for excuses not to fix it under warranty.....Id march out to the showroom and tell all the customers what the mechanic told you..then the whole service department will look like this(attn) (attn) (attn) (attn)

[gimpo2]

hahahah well i don't expect them to fix it under warranty, i have a turbo

[03ProES]

With a limited slip you don't want to mix sizes, but it should be fine with an open diff. That's also total BS about not putting the spare on the front!

[+ friction]

Long story, but my gear range selector was bad when my automatic went into safe mode:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51834

[gimpo2]

hrmmm well i think i'm gonna definatly have to go the manual swap route... anyone selling a manual tranny?

[gimpo2]

well the dealer wants $3647.03 to fix the auto tranny... FUCK THAT! i remember seeing a list of all the parts that i would need to do a manual swap but i can't find it anymore... can anyone help me out here?

[ChuEy826]

$3647.03.. thats f*ckin insane. Good luck with the tranny switch

[gimpo2]

hrmmm well apparently my tranny works again... its a REALLY wierd situation well along with my tranny breaking my radio fuse blew out too. apparently my remote lead to one of my amps was shorting out again the frame so i fixed that and then replaced the fuse... well after i did that my tranny all of a sudden works again... does anyone know if the tranny is on the same fuse as the radio? seems really stupid

[MonsterB]

yes, I believe it is...i have a 5spd, but I remember reading about other people having the same problem...maybe do a search for tranny problems....I know Ive read of that happening to more than a couple people.....

thats cool thats all it was...better than 3400$(hump)

[JOS3]

its time for the dealer to take a look

[AbsoluteSwed]

well the dealer wants $3647.03 to fix the auto tranny. Thats is the biggest bull shit i have ever heard. You can probably buy a brand new custom made tranny have it shipped and installed for less then that. That just makes me really mad that the dealer would actually say that WTF. And that the front tire could have caused that problem is redicules. I got a flat on my front tire and i put on the spare and two days later i had the orginal wheel back, tranny works fine. Front tire could have caused that problem?? HAHAHA bull shit

[Brian MP5T]

Perhaps the tranny was on the outs and this was just the killer.

It would be cheaper for you to do a M/T swap from a wrecked P5...