Guess what we have to test???

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Muhahahaha All you people saying its never gonna happen... Well now you guys gotta guess what we have to test.

It's something really good.... (dunno)

I'll show you guys tomorrow =) But if this thread isn't bumped/ on the top... You guys might not even find out. (spin)
REAL THREAD STARTS ON PAGE 10 So please skip to PAGE 10 Thanks.
Hint: Its for the Mazdaspeed Proteges (chair)

Acutally TWO THINGS to TEST.

New Rule 1 letter per user.

ProPartsUSA Hang Man.



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S I D E.... M O U N T.... I N T E R C O O L E R...A N D..M A Z D A S P E E D

D O W N P I P E... O W N Z

E Q S M T I R D A N P O U

[SpicyMSP]

Jeff your lame.

[jersey_emt]

Smic?

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Jeff your lame.haha your (screwy)

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

(dunno)
Smic?(dunno)

[Dexter]

uhm...uhh...gotta be somethin Mazdaspeed

uh...what did we say they would never make...hm...

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

uhm...uhh...gotta be somethin Mazdaspeed

uh...what did we say they would never make...hm...
(band2)

[SpicyMSP]

I know what it is....... :X

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

I know what it is....... :X
haha once again spicy msp is (screwy)

[SpicyMSP]

nah nah nah nah nah nah

[2K3 MSP]

uhm...uhh...gotta be somethin Mazdaspeed

uh...what did we say they would never make...hm...
Hopefully it's an "S pipe" upgrade...

[SonicX]

A turtle shell dashboard.

[Heathen23]

Hopefully it's an "S pipe" upgrade...
Hasn't an upgraded S pipe been tested and show crap for results?

I'm hoping for an upgraded/retuned pcm/ecu upgrade. If so GIMME!

[[syko.xero]]

a v8 upgrade that balances the car to a 50/50 weight distribution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wiggles6983]

i got a good idea, i just wanna know how much.

[Gbourdon]

I say side mount

[Wiggles6983]

i wish it was a ecu upgrade that works

[2K3 MSP]

Hasn't an upgraded S pipe been tested and show crap for results?

I'm hoping for an upgraded/retuned pcm/ecu upgrade. If so GIMME!The only S pipe I know of is the one Ion sells with his turbo back. Do you have another one in mind?

[Mr. Win]

piggyback

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

/0< 0< Now Playing 0<|
|(band2) | (group) <-- Back stage
---------------------
(no) ============ (no) <--- body gaurds
(butt) (butt) (butt) (butt) (gossip) <---- Front row
(butt) (butt) (protest) (butt) (butt)
(butt) (protest) (bicker) (protest) (butt) <--- FIGHT!!!
(butt) (protest) (protest) (protest) (protest) (butt)
(butt) (butt) (butt) (butt) (butt) (butt)

Okay im done.

[Dexter]

hey that was pretty good actually. lol

[KyRaceFan]

Jeff, dont do that to us...... :squint:

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

hey that was pretty good actually. lol
Hey thanks.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

(moon)
Jeff, dont do that to us...... :squint:

[unwrittenLaw]

its Mazdaspeed boxer shorts

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

its Mazdaspeed boxer shorts
Maybe mazdaspeed G-strings?

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Actually its (second) things now.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

/0< 0< Now Playing 0<|
|(band2) | (group) <-- Back stage
---------------------
(no) ============ (no) <--- body gaurds
(butt) (butt) (butt) (butt) (gossip) <---- Front row
(butt) (butt) (protest) (butt) (butt)
(butt) (protest) (bicker) (protest) (butt) <--- FIGHT!!!
(butt) (protest) (protest) (protest) (protest) (butt)
(butt) (butt) (butt) (butt) (butt) (butt)

Okay im done.
None of you like my picture??

[_Slotegé_]

Mazdaspeed sunglasses and, Mazdaspeed sun tan lotion!;)

[Dexter]

i do! i love it! so much! you can PM me what you are testing! XOXOXOXO LOVE FOREVER

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Mazdaspeed sunglasses and, Mazdaspeed sun tan lotion!;)Test it out on the mazdaspeed :cool: (godown) models... can tell shes a little tan.. must be that lotion.

[IRISH22]

Yeah we tested those last week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not gonna tell though, you tell me to make sure we're on the same page here!

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

How about we play hang man.... anyone up for that idea???

[_Slotegé_]

What ever it is i'm sure it's, gonna be bad ass!

Nice work man!(band2)

[_Slotegé_]

downpipe?

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

downpipe?
sorry dude you gotta guess in letters.

[tekkie]

how about the new ECU flash?

[tekkie]

E

[tekkie]

C

[tekkie]

U

[tekkie]

lol

[IRISH22]

Q? ok there's 4 left, then you win, gotta tell the answer

[IRISH22]

I know I know. They are testing those really really cool light up washer nossiles, you see on all the Honda's!

[AutoBox]

this is lame...just tell us before we grow corns on our fingers from hittin "reflash" on our browsers(freak)

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

new rule 1 letter per user!

[IRISH22]

Sarcazim. Do not take that seriously

[IRISH22]

You cant make up rules after the game is started! I'm telling.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Anyone else wanna give it a whirl.

[tracknfield423]

whats the part the suspense is killing me!!!!!! i'm going insane!

[IRISH22]

Any clues??

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

whats the part the suspense is killing me!!!!!! i'm going insane!
(screwy) You gotta guess a letter than.

[KyRaceFan]

nossiles!

NOSSILES= TEH NEW HANDLOBRAESING!!

IM GONNA POINT MY NOSSILES SIDEWAYS AND SPRAY YOU WITH WIPER FLUID WHILST I OUT HANDLOBRAES YOU!!!!


bahahahaha!!!

[Gbourdon]

S?

[1FASTMP5]

mazdaspeed front mount??????(dunno)

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Anyone like to buy a Vowel? Vowels = a new add on to the head.

[2K3 MSP]

We better get started...

M?

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

mazdaspeed front mount??????(dunno)\

Guess a letter mikey. Remember me from Protegefest? (spank)

[IRISH22]

It's the Mazdaspeed Tribute.

[tonkabui]

side mount intercooler and mild steel downpipe.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

side mount intercooler and mild steel downpipe.
(screwy) Guess a letter.

[tonkabui]

but i got the answer... i don't need to guess no letter.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

but i got the answer... i don't need to guess no letter.
Its wrong btw. So you got everyone a Neck on mr. Smiley face.

[SOSPEED]

Pat give me a T

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Pat give me a T
It's jeff btw.

[tonkabui]

jeff, give me a D

[IRISH22]

I think they mean Pat Sajack

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

jeff, give me a D
Sorry you already took your guess when theres no guesses allowed.

[tonkabui]

i hate you.

[Heathen23]

It's jeff btw.
Pat, I'd like to buy a vowel....

An I please.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Game on Hold Until I get back from school.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Pat, I'd like to buy a vowel....

An I please.Gonna cost you an Arm!

Game on Hold.

[SOSPEED]

What pat sajak doesnt do hangman?????

[KzA]

S _ _ E.... M _ _ _ T.... _ _ T E _ _ _ _ _ E _..._ _ _..M _ _ _ _ S _ E E _

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ E

Side Mount Intercooler for Mazdaspeed Protege

[SonicX]

NOOOO, the game is ruined. :(

[IRISH22]

What pat sajak doesnt do hangman?????No, but you cant buy vowels on hangman either. Besides this sounds more like wheel of fortune, than hangman anyway.

[AutoBox]

boo this game suxs...im returning it for the new resident evil :)

[IRISH22]

No you are disqualified. You didnt answer in the form of a question.

[Heathen23]

No you are disqualified. You didnt answer in the form of a question.
(pow)

[low_psi]

Mazdaspeed brand boost fluid and Mazdaspeed fire extinguisher, guys. You were WAY off.

[BinaryRotary]

Mazdaspeed Poop Shute.

[AutoBox]

OFFICAL mazdaspeed shoulder pads!!!

[Wiggles6983]

ok letter how bout "S"

[Mallard]

I'd like to solve the Puzzle:

SIDE MOUNT INTERCOOLER AND MAZDASPEED DOWNPIPE

:D

[AutoBox]

it better be a damn ecu upgrade...i swear if he get another dp im ognna scream.....he already told us ms is makin the fmic he tested already...im assumin its 2 "NEW" parts :)

[GI-]

I'd like to solve the puzzle Pat...

...Side Mount Intercooler for Mazdaspeed...



What do i win?

[pdhaudio83]

a new SMIC

[MSPinVA]

I think Mallard is right....

[_Slotegé_]

Mazdaspeed brand boost fluid would, be the shiznit!:D

[jersey_emt]

Dude I guessed before anybody i win it damnit

[Mallard]

You don't expect me to read 6 pages of people guessing letters do ya?? ;)

[Nemesiis]

Mazdaspeed windshield washer fluid ???
Do i win !!!!!

(lurk)

[muohio]

A new exhaust tip with a neon ring and whistle? An even larger wing that attaches to the roof? NAZ? Fake disc brake wheel covers?

I just want to be on the thread when the real answer is given :)

[jersey_emt]

Yeah I want some fake disc brake wheel covers for my real disc brakes lol but I already got the (woowoo)

[1FASTMP5]

\

Guess a letter mikey. Remember me from Protegefest? (spank)
sup...jeff, sure do!

[Wiggles6983]

it better be a damn ecu upgrade...i swear if he get another dp im ognna scream.....he already told us ms is makin the fmic he tested already...im assumin its 2 "NEW" parts :)
damn i only hope you are correct

[low_psi]

Pre-set boost controllers @ 22.3psi?

MS CarbonFiber ashtry?

[1FASTMP5]

mazdaspeed carbon fiber condoms????????????????????(dunno)

[low_psi]

WOOOOO!!! Please send an economy pack my way!

j/k

[muohio]

Yeah I want some fake disc brake wheel covers for my real disc brakes lol but I already got the (woowoo) To achieve ricer perfection, you have to write the rules. If that means fake disc brake wheel covers over disc brakes, then you have to.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Game On

Whos gonna give it another whirl? (poke) You guys got another arm for guessing. Guessing Only Letters

[jersey_emt]

OK i'll bite

'R'

[Mr. Win]

your buying us all around of beer?

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

(dunno) No money here (headshake
your buying us all around of beer?

[MP3skaterNC]

side mount intercooler and mazdaspeed yea thats all ive got

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Can you guys guess the right letters before you hang the man! Remember buying vowels will kill ya !

[Sixmil]

D

[Mr. Win]

e

die die die

[Mr. Win]

a

[Mr. Win]

d

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

e

die die die
E Was already taken!!!

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

a
You just got another body part for tht eam!!!

[LiLiTaLy]

S I D E.... M _ _ _ T.... I _ T E _ _ _ _ _ E R...A _ D..M A _ D A S _ E E D

D _ _ _ _ _ _ E... _ _ _ _


Side Mount Intercooler and mazdaspeed downpipe

[jurgs01]

hope the part is worth the suspense.

[jersey_emt]

That's only the first part.

AND NOBODY GUESS ANY MORE VOWELS

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

its a side mount intercooler, can't u say thats the right answer
You need to guess letters so you dont kill the man!

[TheJohnny]

Your testing it doesn't mean that we'll ever see it, or does it. Because if it does then where is the FMIC from MS that you guys tested?

[FBI14]

(edited)
haha no you dont

[LiLiTaLy]

n

[jersey_emt]

N, C, L, Z, P, W

[Mr. Win]

You need to guess letters so you dont kill the man!
i was taught to stick it to the man.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

N, C, L, Z, P
You can't guess anymore. Your turn is over. (band2)

[goku4658]

p

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Your testing it doesn't mean that we'll ever see it, or does it. Because if it does then where is the FMIC from MS that you guys tested?
We are trying to enjoy the game... Ask me questions after.

[jersey_emt]

N, C, L, Z, P, W

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

You can take N and P out of it. haha. Not lookin good!

[FBI14]

Games are fun but MazdaSpeed Upgrades are even more fun so lets know what they are and whats going on with them

[FBI14]

And what happened to my "o"

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

And what happened to my "o"
Haha you gonna kill the man even more?? Fine with me..!!!

[2K3 MSP]

T_IS GAM_ S_X_RS!!!

[FBI14]

BULLSHIT the P's in the word on on the man killing list this is the greatest injustive in the world I refuse to be a pawn in this scheme of marketing sorts Im not out of order your outta order this whole freaking systems out of order, you dont know what its like Im the one putting his ass out on the line everday and you want the truth you cant handle the truth cause when you reach over and put your hand in a pile of goo that was your bestfriends face FORGET ITS CHINATOWN

[low_psi]

"Donnie you are out of your ELEMENT!!"

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

BULLSHIT the P's in the word on on the man killing list this is the greatest injustive in the world I refuse to be a pawn in this scheme of marketing sorts Im not out of order your outta order this whole freaking systems out of order, you dont know what its like Im the one putting his ass out on the line everday and you want the truth you cant handle the truth cause when you reach over and put your hand in a pile of goo that was your bestfriends face FORGET ITS CHINATOWNhaha
(screwy)

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

All you guys gotta do is do say the U and the game ends.

[low_psi]

haha. who's gonna kill him?

[FBI14]

Dont anyone be stupid either and pick some wacky letter

[jersey_emt]

Side Mount Intercooler And Mazdaspeed Downpipe Ownz

[FBI14]

Booyah

[FBI14]

The day of redemption is at hand REPENT AND THOU SHALL BE SAVED

[Mr. Win]

U!!!

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Ya we picked both of these products on the way to ProtegeFest.

The Downpipe is a lot better the flexpipe is bigger so there will be no issue with leaking. There are Two O-2 Bungs. The first which u close up and the 2nd right after the hanger rods. Not sure on price yet. SMIC we had out at protege fest but no one even looked at it =) Everyone was to busy for us.

[low_psi]

threeve!

[MP3skaterNC]

so is this downpipe a replacement "s-pipe" or yet another mid-pipe

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

so is this downpipe a replacement "s-pipe" or yet another mid-pipe
It actually will only replace the mid pipe section. We might be a carrier for a cat that will flow pretty nicely around 395 CFM that might be an additional option. I will see how that will work out.

[2K3 MSP]

Please work on the S pipe as well!! And any way to get some street legal (CARB exept type) high-flow cats in there?

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Heres a picture =) (dance)BTW that is not me... the white guy. I'm asian.

[MP3skaterNC]

boo i need an spipe

[FBI14]

so it deletes the 2 cats and will there be hard pipes with the SMIC or just the stock ones

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

so it deletes the 2 cats and will there be hard pipes with the SMIC or just the stock ones
There will be no hardpipes available for the car. I can find out if they will be coming out with any.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

boo i need an spipe
has anyone tested the S-Pipe vs a J-Pipe yet?

[goku4658]

no cat on the downpipe tho?

[jflo]

wtf ?!??! how come no one ever said anything about the damn SMIC and pipe @ PFest ? i'm pretty sure a bunch of us would've swarmed your booth jeff !

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

no cat on the downpipe tho?
(headshake If you wanted us to custom weld one on for you we could do that. We are still testin out a Hi-Flow cat. It sure beats the crap out of the Car Sound ones.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

wtf ?!??! how come no one ever said anything about the damn SMIC and pipe @ PFest ? i'm pretty sure a bunch of us would've swarmed your booth jeff !
Haha I don't know (dunno) To late. We were right next to the MOCC raffle too. Haha (band2)

[pip7441622]

Awsome!

[MazdaNeal]

Ooh, keep us posted on the sidemount, how much..., etc.... Also I would be interested in a catted (hfc of course) mid pipe. What diameter would it be?

[_Slotegé_]

Will this SMIC come with hard pipe's?(spin)

[FBI14]

Will the SMIC be a drop in replacement, is it bar and plate ?

[Dr.Sound]

yeah, it's gonna be a direct replacement.
hey jeff, since this is the protosport prototype, when will we be able to see the production of the actual ones we can buy?


by the way, i was the one who took that pic :)

[1FASTMP5]

here we go.........lol.....how much? is it plug and play? dyno? bar & plate?
will it come with hard pipes? how much to ship to 90262211145511525

[charles]

if people want hard pipes so badly why not just grab one of a junked turbo volvo or something

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

yeah, it's gonna be a direct replacement.
hey jeff, since this is the protosport prototype, when will we be able to see the production of the actual ones we can buy?


by the way, i was the one who took that pic :)vic... Mazdaspeed Prototype. Hehe I forgot where i got it. Thanks =)


I'll let you guys know all the answers tomorrow.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Ooh, keep us posted on the sidemount, how much..., etc.... Also I would be interested in a catted (hfc of course) mid pipe. What diameter would it be?
2 1/4.

[FBI14]

here we go.........lol.....how much? is it plug and play? dyno? bar & plate?
will it come with hard pipes? how much to ship to 90262211145511525


THe questions arent for you so its not bothering you any, didnt know there was a problem with being curious about a new product, proparts doesnt seem to be annoyed with the questions

[PaulMP3]

Jeff that IC looks nice.

I see in the pic you got a radiator..

PM me a price and some specs/brand radiator.

[Dr.Sound]

THe questions arent for you so its not bothering you any, didnt know there was a problem with being curious about a new product, proparts doesnt seem to be annoyed with the questionsit's a joke dude,
dont know if u were here when spicyMSP (steph) prototyped her injen.
there were a million threads like "where", "how much", "when", "how"........etc




edit: actually, i think u were arround then......remember?

[2K3 MSP]

What's the difference between a "S pipe" and a "J pipe"?? All I know is that the stock piece is restrictive, and I need it replaced. I don't care what shape it's in, as long as it flows better than the stock one:)

[FBI14]

Yeah I remeber and SpicyMSP was the one who got annoyed I dont see proparts having any problems and like I said whats the problem with being curious about a new product. He only had us drooling like dogs over this stuff to begin with

[funnylittlman]

MMMMM Mazdaspeed SMIC....

MMMMM. Mazdaspeed Downpipe :D

Me likey

[evolv]

I dont want to rain on anyone's parade, but: SMIC is only useful if you can get air to it. I'm more curious to know how you plan to pipe air to the SMIC without cutting the body, or creating some elabotate duct work for the air flow.

You "ProPartsUSA.com" come in here and parade your fancy SMIC. Funny, no price yet? Why is that? Why can't someone spend some realistic time and figure out who's "junk yard FMIC" will fit to replace the original FMIC. Develope some piping and boxes to accomodate it and deliver a product that's $100's cheaper.

This is a nice 12 page thread thats says absolutely nothing except you might have a SMIC and new downpipe.

Why don't you post when its available with an attached price?????

[Devilspawn]

I dont want to rain on anyone's parade, but: SMIC is only useful if you can get air to it. I'm more curious to know how you plan to pipe air to the SMIC without cutting the body, or creating some elabotate duct work for the air flow.

You "ProPartsUSA.com" come in here and parade your fancy SMIC. Funny, no price yet? Why is that? Why can't someone spend some realistic time and figure out who's "junk yard FMIC" will fit to replace the original FMIC. Develope some piping and boxes to accomodate it and deliver a product that's $100's cheaper.

This is a nice 12 page thread thats says absolutely nothing except you might have a SMIC and new downpipe.

Why don't you post when its available with an attached price?????


Why I ask you why (hand) Don't like the thread then don't open it or better yet don't read all of it...If you read the first 5 pages and don't like it and saw where it was going, STOP READING....

Thanks Proparts for all your support...keep up the good work and the updates.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

What's the difference between a "S pipe" and a "J pipe"?? All I know is that the stock piece is restrictive, and I need it replaced. I don't care what shape it's in, as long as it flows better than the stock one:)
You can call the J Pipe "the integrated downpipe" basically what you want =) I will have to see about that.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

I dont want to rain on anyone's parade, but: SMIC is only useful if you can get air to it. I'm more curious to know how you plan to pipe air to the SMIC without cutting the body, or creating some elabotate duct work for the air flow.

You "ProPartsUSA.com" come in here and parade your fancy SMIC. Funny, no price yet? Why is that? Why can't someone spend some realistic time and figure out who's "junk yard FMIC" will fit to replace the original FMIC. Develope some piping and boxes to accomodate it and deliver a product that's $100's cheaper.

This is a nice 12 page thread thats says absolutely nothing except you might have a SMIC and new downpipe.

Why don't you post when its available with an attached price?????Someone get this guy out of my face! (poke)
1. SMIC IS ONLY USEFUL IF YOU CAN GET AIR TO IT? CUTTING THE BODY? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FIRST OF ALL. IT SITS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CAR! HOW MUCH MORE AIR CAN YOU GET DIRECTLY IN FRONT WHERE ALL THE AIR IS COMING FROM! CUTTING THE BODY?? (screwy) DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT??? WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT CUTTING THE BODY??? LOL (dunno) Okay Junk yard fmic. good one... (braindead


(canada) (notcool)

[yashooa]

Thanks for the info and ignore that UBER TARD!
Most of us really like to see new stuff for our cars.
Thanks for the effort.(headbang) (usa) (headbang)

[marashka]

i want one . as long as price is not too steep i'd rather go with a SM then a FM..

[SpicyMSP]

Um I told you I knew. I even talked to the manufacturer before you brought them to protegefest. He told me you would have them on display. You are still lame Jeff

[Black Majik MSP]

If this is just for the IC & no hardpipes, what do we do about the lame ass plastic pipes? As far as I know, Essential Speed is the only company who makes them (& I can't even find them on their site). Hopefully, Forge will decide to make silicone hose replacements & I can just get those, but until then, what's the deal?

[jersey_emt]

I'm hoping you start a new thread with price, performance, and availability information instead of throwing it here.

[SpicyMSP]

Dont worry about replacing your stock plastic pipes. They were pressure tested up to 24psi. I dont know why everyone sees that as a problem.

[Notorious]

They'll hold 24psi without blowing apart, but they expand at anything above 10 psi, and the seams leak at higher boost levels. At the track I was unable to boost above 9.5 psi, same with Mike (TBL).


Dont worry about replacing your stock plastic pipes. They were pressure tested up to 24psi. I dont know why everyone sees that as a problem.

[SpicyMSP]

Ive just relaying what i have been told by the engineers of the MSP. That wasnt my personal test or anything.

[Notorious]

I dont want to rain on anyone's parade, but: SMIC is only useful if you can get air to it. I'm more curious to know how you plan to pipe air to the SMIC without cutting the body, or creating some elabotate duct work for the air flow.

You "ProPartsUSA.com" come in here and parade your fancy SMIC. Funny, no price yet? Why is that? Why can't someone spend some realistic time and figure out who's "junk yard FMIC" will fit to replace the original FMIC. Develope some piping and boxes to accomodate it and deliver a product that's $100's cheaper.

This is a nice 12 page thread thats says absolutely nothing except you might have a SMIC and new downpipe.

Why don't you post when its available with an attached price?????
The stock location you still get decent airflow. You don't need to do any crazy cutting or anything like that. If you can see the intercooler from the front of the car, that means its getting air. It's like saying the radiator isn't getting air because there is a bumper in front of it.

[1FASTMP5]

THe questions arent for you so its not bothering you any, didnt know there was a problem with being curious about a new product, proparts doesnt seem to be annoyed with the questions
IT'S A JOKE FOR JEFF!!!!! LOL.....:confused:

[AutoBox]

argh post prices when u get them....circut sport has their smic for 600 on www.jspec.com (http://www.jspec.com) and 289 for their dp.......where is the ecu upgrade.... :(

[Notorious]

Yea i kno (spin)

I was told at sevenstock that they were pressure tested up to 50 psi as well. I'm actually gonna test them next week using an air compressor to see exactly what they hold up too.... heh heh heh



Ive just relaying what i have been told by the engineers of the MSP. That wasnt my personal test or anything.

[tbl]

where is the ecu upgrade.... :(http://microtechefiusa.com (http://microtechefiusa.com/)<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[tbl]

I cannot boost past about 7.5psi at higher rpm... I got the AWR front motor mount, and this helped a little, I can boost to 8psi now. In fith I can go up to about 9. I think what's happening is the pipes lose their seal, and leak boost at higher rpm due to the expansion of the plastic. Anyone else besides me and peter experiencing this?

btw, what a waste of race fuel!


I was unable to boost above 9.5 psi, same with Mike (TBL).

[AutoBox]

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im talkin about a new reflash or upgraded ecu..not stand alone

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Um I told you I knew. I even talked to the manufacturer before you brought them to protegefest. He told me you would have them on display. You are still lame Jeff
haha Steph has got to have her hands always in something =) (band2)

[tbl]

_always_ !

[CatD399]

Yea i kno (spin)

I was told at sevenstock that they were pressure tested up to 50 psi as well. I'm actually gonna test them next week using an air compressor to see exactly what they hold up too.... heh heh heh
That can be a very dangerous procedure there notorious; if you really want to make a pressure test, fill it with water and then pressurize it.... otherwise you'll have the equivalent of a small bomb ready to go...

[tbl]

put water in the engine? no thanks! hydrolock anyone?

[jersey_emt]

put water in the engine? no thanks! hydrolock anyone?

He's talking about pressure testing the pipes...which you wouldn't want to do with them on the engine anyways.

[funnylittlman]

lol

[tbl]

He is doing it while connected to the engine, as long as it isn't running you can put the preasure up to to 800psi without effecting the engine. he is testing the pipes at a very low psi (20-40)

[CatD399]

put water in the engine? no thanks! hydrolock anyone?

lol!! that's a good way to bust a head and bend a few rods! anyone been ticking you off lately?!!

[Notorious]

you are aware that the cylinders see over 700 psi of pressure during normal use right?? This does not damage the engine at all, its a safe procedure as long as you don't blow the plastic pipes to pieces. Which of course we aren't gonna go that far.

Its common practice to pressurize the pipes (yes on the engine with it off) to see where you have boost leaks.

*edit* i might have mis-interpreted your post, but I'm not literally blowing the pipes apart, I just want to see where they leak, and at what boost.


lol!! that's a good way to bust a head and bend a few rods! anyone been ticking you off lately?!!

[SpicyMSP]

argh post prices when u get them....circut sport has their smic for 600 on www.jspec.com (http://www.jspec.com/) and 289 for their dp.......where is the ecu upgrade.... :(

Its all the same one.
Protosport, Circuit sports, Tripoint, JSpec. Same one. Same with the braces. They are all by the same manufacturer.

[SpicyMSP]

Your Crazy Peter! Take Pics!

[Notorious]

hahah i was gonna pressurize the boost gauge and just park the car out in the middle of the road and take a picture the gauge pegged at maximum boost. It would have been a great april fools picture.

[CatD399]

you are aware that the cylinders see over 700 psi of pressure during normal use right?? This does not damage the engine at all, its a safe procedure as long as you don't blow the plastic pipes to pieces. Which of course we aren't gonna go that far.

Its common practice to pressurize the pipes (yes on the engine with it off) to see where you have boost leaks.

*edit* i might have mis-interpreted your post, but I'm not literally blowing the pipes apart, I just want to see where they leak, and at what boost.
about right for the pressures, it's the procedures i wasn't aware of. you see, you just can't do that on a ship.... besides there is a known incident where a junior engineer tried pumping a drum dry by plugging it to the ship's service air. He forgot to hook a pressure regulator to bring the pressure to ten pounds and instead plugged 95...i'll let you guess the rest........

[Metal MP5]

about right for the pressures, it's the procedures i wasn't aware of. you see, you just can't do that on a ship.... besides there is a known incident where a junior engineer tried pumping a drum dry by plugging it to the ship's service air. He forgot to hook a pressure regulator to bring the pressure to ten pounds and instead plugged 95...i'll let you guess the rest........
im no engineer nor do i know anything about that ... but "BOOM!!!" is my guess ... ?

[Notorious]

wow, yea thats one of those things were you just can't cut corners and still be safe.




about right for the pressures, it's the procedures i wasn't aware of. you see, you just can't do that on a ship.... besides there is a known incident where a junior engineer tried pumping a drum dry by plugging it to the ship's service air. He forgot to hook a pressure regulator to bring the pressure to ten pounds and instead plugged 95...i'll let you guess the rest........

[CatD399]

im no engineer nor do i know anything about that ... but "BOOM!!!" is my guess ... ?
poor kid never survived...

[AutoBox]

Its all the same one.
Protosport, Circuit sports, Tripoint, JSpec. Same one. Same with the braces. They are all by the same manufacturer.
yeh i knwo just poitin out that it has been out for a while already :) nuttin "NEW" here...just a rebadge

[KyRaceFan]

Edit: Jspec sells the circuit sport i/c for 630+shipping. Thats ridiculous. Hell i can get an FMIC core.. a perfect spearco, for like 400 bucks....
Why the hell is it so much?

[evolv]

Someone get this guy out of my face! (poke)
1. SMIC IS ONLY USEFUL IF YOU CAN GET AIR TO IT? CUTTING THE BODY? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FIRST OF ALL. IT SITS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CAR! HOW MUCH MORE AIR CAN YOU GET DIRECTLY IN FRONT WHERE ALL THE AIR IS COMING FROM! CUTTING THE BODY?? (screwy) DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT??? WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT CUTTING THE BODY??? LOL (dunno) Okay Junk yard fmic. good one... (braindead


(canada) (notcool)

OK smart guy (screwy) since you have all the answers, except the ones that matter, like price, ducting, mounting answer this.

If a Front Mount InterCooler (FMIC) is mounted in the front of the car and an SMIC (Side Mount InterCooler) is also mounted in the front, when does an FMIC become an SMIC????

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

OK smart guy (screwy) since you have all the answers, except the ones that matter, like price, ducting, mounting answer this.

If a Front Mount InterCooler (FMIC) is mounted in the front of the car and an SMIC (Side Mount InterCooler) is also mounted in the front, when does an FMIC become an SMIC????Do you even own a MSP? (chair)and do you know where our SMIC is located stock first of all??

It mounts in the same location. So air slow is still the same. Dude its located right next radiator! At the FRONT OF THE CAR SO AIR DOES GO THROUGH. IF YOU REALLY HAD A MSP YOU WOULDN't BE ASKING STUPID QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SMIC. (headshake

[Rich24km]

OK smart guy (screwy) since you have all the answers, except the ones that matter, like price, ducting, mounting answer this.

If a Front Mount InterCooler (FMIC) is mounted in the front of the car and an SMIC (Side Mount InterCooler) is also mounted in the front, when does an FMIC become an SMIC????

are you slow? (flame2)

[SpoolinMsp]

Okay just a thought? The downpipe is 2.25 if I remember correctly, it was kind of hard to tell with everyone talking about something different! Personally if that is the case and the downpipe is that size and if this side mount goes through all I can say is good luck and I might buy something at your going out of business sale! Sorry hate to be a cock but, there are two things you have to think about are who wants a side mount when you can get a fmic and who wants 2.25 piping.

somebody productive make and s pipe, besides corksport whoes is in the works for the last year

(wedge)

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Okay just a thought? The downpipe is 2.25 if I remember correctly, it was kind of hard to tell with everyone talking about something different! Personally if that is the case and the downpipe is that size and if this side mount goes through all I can say is good luck and I might buy something at your going out of business sale! Sorry hate to be a cock but, there are two things you have to think about are who wants a side mount when you can get a fmic and who wants 2.25 piping.

somebody productive make and s pipe, besides corksport whoes is in the works for the last year

(wedge)Since when are peoples decision based on what you say? (nobody) what you say. (blah)

Its like Why buy a S2000 when you can buy a ferrari? Why buy a mini van when you can buy a Hummer? WTF? (dunno)


LoL maybe im just going to delete this thread... This is (screwy)

[SpoolinMsp]

It's not what based on what I say and I don't know where you would get that but ill just blow it off my left shoulder!! I am just speaking for people who probably wouldn't say it. That is just my personal opinion is that 2.25 piping is not worth spending 150.00-300.00 for a downpipe. Sorry!

Sincerely,
My opinion

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

It's not what based on what I say and I don't know where you would get that but ill just blow it off my left shoulder!! I am just speaking for people who probably wouldn't say it. That is just my personal opinion is that 2.25 piping is not worth spending 150.00-300.00 for a downpipe. Sorry!

Sincerely,
My opinion
Then take your opinion to somebody who cares. Thanks (hi)

[SpoolinMsp]

Hahahahah! The thing is you should care. That is the really funny thing, because, correct me if im wrong but are you the propartsusa.com distributor or owner or whatever. There are little things called consumers and that persay me and the rest of the people on this site. You should listen to everyones opinions


OWNED!!!

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

Hahahahah! The thing is you should care. That is the really funny thing, because, correct me if im wrong but are you the propartsusa.com distributor or owner or whatever. There are little things called consumers and that persay me and the rest of the people on this site. You should listen to everyones opinions


OWNED!!!LOL (attn) Now. Losing you as a customer? Oh wait you weren't even here to say anything productive. Once again (nobody)(sleep)

[SpoolinMsp]

I am not saying your losing me as a customer, sorry if it was misworded. I am talking about other people as consumers. By produceing something like a turbo manifold, an ecu program, hardpipes, 3in s-pipe and down pipe you will gain customers. Now I think ive been enough of an asshole for today so I will just let the point be and talk about something else. Im sure you have a good company and sell a lot of product, yeah for you. It was just my opinion and thought maybe someone from the company would want a consumers opinion.

[Yay-Boost]

I think a SMIC is an awsome idea. Everyone spending the big cash for hardpipes and a front mount is crazy. Unless you are pushing the boost way up it just doesn't seem worth it. My wifes VW 1.8t has like rubber hose that you can completly collapse down with your hand. People push this to 19 PSI of boost without replacing them. Personally I think our hard plastic pipes with 10 PSI should be fine.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

I am not saying your losing me as a customer, sorry if it was misworded. I am talking about other people as consumers. By produceing something like a turbo manifold, an ecu program, hardpipes, 3in s-pipe and down pipe you will gain customers. Now I think ive been enough of an asshole for today so I will just let the point be and talk about something else. Im sure you have a good company and sell a lot of product, yeah for you. It was just my opinion and thought maybe someone from the company would want a consumers opinion.Well these parts are being offer from Mazdaspeed and we will be selling these parts through them. We have nothing to do with these parts but the testing and evaluating of the product. Also of course marketing it.

[Notorious]

vw's also have computer controlled wastegates, if you start to lose boost by expansion the wastegate adjusts. It's not really that the pipes are that terrible, the seals just really suck. Plus metal flows a little bit better =)




I think a SMIC is an awsome idea. Everyone spending the big cash for hardpipes and a front mount is crazy. Unless you are pushing the boost way up it just doesn't seem worth it. My wifes VW 1.8t has like rubber hose that you can completly collapse down with your hand. People push this to 19 PSI of boost without replacing them. Personally I think our hard plastic pipes with 10 PSI should be fine.

[SpoolinMsp]

woow woow woow woow, Okay if your not making the parts than and coming up with these ideas then I give my 100% apology to you and your company. Somebody should slap them upside the head then!

[low_psi]

wow, the idiots come out after work...

[SpoolinMsp]

Yeah I decided to come out when you did. I just thought id follow

[low_psi]

been surfing all day...

its not cool to jump on vendors when:

a) they are just prototyping parts
b) the parts are for a small group ie. MSP
c) MS USA is looking at releasing factory support

its cases like this that piss off/scare away vendors. i know you realize this though.

[KyRaceFan]

SMIC that flows better than the stock one is a damn good idea for those who dont want to buy a whole FMIC.. that is if its alot cheaper for the SMIC... 630+shipping isnt.

[mspeedpro]

on topic-- i think a smic intercooler definitly would be a great alternative but before pricing is realeased-- 90% of the people that are gonna opt for the smic will be specifically b/c it should be a lot cheaper than fmix

off topic-- deleting this thread wouldnt be a bad idea, you could sum up all the useful in here in a single short post when u finally agree on the logistics of it

[jaxmsp]

There are alot of reasons that many folks might opt for an upgraded SMIC over a FMIC. How 'bout these two:

(1) much less chance of a voided factory warranty
(2) FMIC will affect engine cooling system effectiveness

Regarding the warranty: Anybody ever consider what a 48 mo/ 50K mile factory warranty is worth? At least $2k. So when you go shopping for a FMIC, you might want to do the math and add that $2k to the cost of it.

[Dr.Sound]

It's not what based on what I say and I don't know where you would get that but ill just blow it off my left shoulder!! I am just speaking for people who probably wouldn't say it. That is just my personal opinion is that 2.25 piping is not worth spending 150.00-300.00 for a downpipe. Sorry!

Sincerely,
My opinionfucking ricer mentality "Bigger is Better"
".......i want nAwZ man, two bottles, the BIG ones...."

do u have this downpipe to say it's not worth it???
have u driven a car with this downpipe on???

no? then STFU.

i have it, and it's 100 times better than stock.
3 inch is too big for our cars, we need backpressure.

even with this downpipe after i put a hi-flow cat in, the response got better.
low backpressure = shitty bottom end, and in the city bottom end is what u need most of the time.

[Dr.Sound]

...
(screwy) he evolv, why subaru dont hatchback? (drunk)

[_Slotegé_]

I would buy an SMIC if, the price was right.

But $600 for the Circuit Sport without hard piping is way to much. if the Mazdaspeed SMIC is a cheaper price than, that i would get one but i'm talking like $300-$400 price range for an upgraded SMIC. i don't think that will happen though so it's looking like when i upgrade it will be an FMIC. i mean why would you pay $600 for an SMIC when there are two kit's out on the market for under $1,000. dont take this wrong i'm just stating how i fell about it i'm not bashing in anyway i,do think a SMIC is a good idea but,at the price of the Circuit Sport SMIC for example i just don't think it's worth it.(blah) (blah) (blah)

[Dr.Sound]

dude, read the thread, they are all the same SMIC.......it's made by one company.

[Notorious]

To add on what victor is saying. Too big is bad for flow. The t25 is not exactly a monster turbo, anything over 3" is going to start effecting flow. Going too big will significantly reduce low end power and will only marginally affect top end. 2.5 inches is probably the biggest you would want to go with a t25. Especially one with such a small outlet.



fucking ricer mentality "Bigger is Better"
".......i want nAwZ man, two bottles, the BIG ones...."

do u have this downpipe to say it's not worth it???
have u driven a car with this downpipe on???

no? then STFU.

i have it, and it's 100 times better than stock.
3 inch is too big for our cars, we need backpressure.

even with this downpipe after i put a hi-flow cat in, the response got better.
low backpressure = shitty bottom end, and in the city bottom end is what u need most of the time.

[_Slotegé_]

dude, read the thread, they are all the same SMIC.......it's made by one company.thanks i didn't really want to read some 3 pages of BS. So since it is made by the same company then i'm guessing it will be the same price? i already said how i feel about that so good day sir's and, good luck with the SMIC!(band)

[FBI14]

600+ is ridiculous for a SMIC core like mspeed said Id buy one if the price was right

[SpoolinMsp]

to Dr. Sound, you need to back up just a little bit with the hole ricer thing. ya im sure im a ricer when your driving the same damn car as me. Oh yeah, ill race you any day with my 150 shot nawz!! gimme a break! everyone was all over me at first but then a few got the point and seen the estimated price tag and said yeah right (like me).

and to whats his face, just a question? how do you already have this downpipe just curious. and i beg to differ about the whole 3" is bad for our cars cus its not! you take your 2.25 setup and ill take my 3 setup and we will see whos faster and runs better in the long run!!!

i bet you all think im a prick!!!!
(band2)

[Notorious]

I'll just assume "whats his face" is me. Let's put it this way, my civic with a t3/t4 turbo had a 3.5" custom turboback. while the 3.5 inch has real nice, throaty sound to it, the 3" turboback we replaced with yielded better low end power and wasn't noticably changed on the top. the t3/t4 turbo is much larger than our t25, with such a small turbo flow is going to be a priority. When exhaust exits the turbo in theory it should flow smoothly out to the exit point. If you go too large you get "exhuast buffeting" which is when the exhaust doesn't freely exit and bounces around in the piping. Running a 3" inch downpipe (which is more accurately a midpipe) doesn't make sense if your not going to replace the s-pipe and your gonna keep the stock catback. It's like having a regular straw but having both ends with a coffee stirrer/straw.

3" inch turboback is OK, but I think 2.5 inches is going to be the most effective. I'm not really a fan of the 2.25 inch, not because I think its too small, but that extremely close to the size of the stock piping, which in that case I would just delete the cats. As for the lets see who's faster??? I turned 14.2 with 2 10 inch subs in the back and a boost leak, and ran the 2nd fastest protege time at protegefest also with subs, 2 cats, and a boost leak. Anyways long story short, i just think a 2.5 is going to be more effective and you could spend the extra cash you saved on a 2.5 on something else that makes the car go fast.



to Dr. Sound, you need to back up just a little bit with the hole ricer thing. ya im sure im a ricer when your driving the same damn car as me. Oh yeah, ill race you any day with my 150 shot nawz!! gimme a break! everyone was all over me at first but then a few got the point and seen the estimated price tag and said yeah right (like me).

and to whats his face, just a question? how do you already have this downpipe just curious. and i beg to differ about the whole 3" is bad for our cars cus its not! you take your 2.25 setup and ill take my 3 setup and we will see whos faster and runs better in the long run!!!

i bet you all think im a prick!!!!
(band2)

[Dr.Sound]

to Dr. Sound, you need to back up just a little bit with the hole ricer thing. ya im sure im a ricer when your driving the same damn car as me. Oh yeah, ill race you any day with my 150 shot nawz!! gimme a break! everyone was all over me at first but then a few got the point and seen the estimated price tag and said yeah right (like me).

and to whats his face, just a question? how do you already have this downpipe just curious. and i beg to differ about the whole 3" is bad for our cars cus its not! you take your 2.25 setup and ill take my 3 setup and we will see whos faster and runs better in the long run!!!

i bet you all think im a prick!!!!
i've had this downpipe for 6 months.
along with many other members.

[1FASTMP5]

spoolinmsp.....fyi have you ever even seen your t25 turbo outlet for the exhaust?
it's only 2.25 if that!!!!! and the outlet for the intercooler is 2''. why in the hell would you need anything bigger than 2.5 in diameter? thats why no one has seen any gains from making a bigger ''s'' pipe, the stock one fits the turbo perfectly already!!!!!!!everyone knows that air is stubborn and needs to be pushed or sucked in to move..... i.e ram air or f/i......when you put piping larger than the turbo's exhaust outlet on the turbo it will slow down the velocity of air flow. period!!!!! if the intercooler pipes/down pipe's are bigger than the turbo inlet or outlet it doesnt make the air move any quicker......if anything the air has more space to expand and will lose its velocity trying to expand. this will slow down the air flow or velocity through the pipes.
alot of people think...oh.... ill throw on a 3'' down pipe on my msp with a stock t25 and ill gain 12336552256 hp because no b/p. hahahahaha keep thinking that buddy. (dunno)


****notorious****as you posted about about runing 2.25 and how it's close to stock.....hahahah ;) thats what im running on my car! shhhhhhhh dont tell! i have'nt told anyone.....completely factory size piping just got rid of everything in the system except my hks muffler. (yes)
works for me......

[1FASTMP5]

you take your 2.25 setup and ill take my 3 setup and we will see whos faster and runs better in the long run!!!

hey, spoodinmsp no flames intended...but im up for this challange! except im running smaller than ''2.25'' exhaust on my msp set up. ill got first.....14.1 @ 100 mph @ 9psi on stock p5 rims and tires with full int/jack/spare ect.....

[Dr.Sound]

for your information Spoolinmsp,
1FASTMP5 took "The Fastest Protege" award at our event last saturday.

[MrDiggler]

"i have it, and it's 100 times better than stock.
3 inch is too big for our cars, we need backpressure.

even with this downpipe after i put a hi-flow cat in, the response got better.
low backpressure = shitty bottom end, and in the city bottom end is what u need most of the time."
----------------
Finally! Thanks Dr. Sound. The whole time I've been on this board I've been wondering why peeps are so fired up about a 3" exhaust for the MSP and have even mentioned it a couple of times. I'm not modding mine any further just yet, but the exhaust will be the next area I work on, and I'm sure as hell not going any bigger than 2.5". Exhaust velocity=better scavenging=more total torque (to a point).

My '79 Trans Am with a cammed/ported/polished 462 c.i. V-8 runs better overall with dual 2.5's than with dual 3 inch pipes. I don't have enough cam and airflow for 3" on that car. If dual 2.5's can work so well on a 7.7 liter engine, why on earth would we need a single 3" for a mildly boosted and mildly cammed 2.0 liter?!?! I for one don't plan on spending all my driving time at 5500rpm and up. My .02 anyway.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Dr.Sound]

^ yep, exactly.

[Jeff@Tri-Point]

It cuz jack at ion make everyone think they need it. (dunno)

[1FASTMP5]

anyone know who makes some 3'' intercooler piping for my t25 msp set up?
who cares if my turbo outlet is 2''.......BIGGER IS BETTER.....damn it!!!!
i need it to go with my 3'' downpipe & s-pipe..... so this mother fucker will FLOW!!!:rolleyes:

[Notorious]

you need a 35x26x8 intercooler first.

[jflo]

damn...8" thick core...now all that air that my t25 will be pushing will be cooled a helluva lot better although i'll be losing about all my pressure. HAHAHHA jyeeeah biatch i'm boosting 1 psi and my intake manifold is about to freeze

[Dr.Sound]

hey dude, dont forget about the intercooler sprayer!
gots to have icecles or it dont count!

[505zoom]

It cuz jack at ion make everyone think they need it. (dunno)

Take it easy there. No need for that. I got my 3" turbo-back long before Jack even mentioned the iON system, and so did a bunch of other people. I'm tired of seeing so many people bashing iON in these totally unrelated threads. What has Jack or anyone at iON ever done to YOU???

Oh, and I heard from a couple of people that all of you guys at Protegefest had nothing but bad things to say about iON products. Stop with the slander right now. Those people that I mentioned were very interested in the iON FMIC untill going to Protegefest and being bombarded with negative comments. I wish that I could have been there to defend iON and their principle of function over form, but I had a medical situation come up, and could not make it due to doctor bills.

I have been off the forums lately, so this has been building up from several posts that I have read tonight.

To all of you that have been bashing iON lately:

iON Performance has done nothing but provide some of the best parts for our cars, and so many of you just talk shit about stupid things. When iON was making the prototype FMIC, Jack came on here and asked us if we wanted a system that had very little pressure drop but would require some cutting for the piping route... or if we wanted a system that required no cutting and had a slightly higher pressure drop. Everybody who responded to that thread wanted the system with less drop, and they made it. Now all I see is people bitch about the cutting that you need to do, and that the IC core sits like 1" off center. What do you add a FMIC for? For the looks so everyone can see your purdy new IC? Or for the performance of it? The routing of the iON FMIC piping is the straightest path you can possibly have with our setup, plain and simple. If having your core sit 1" to the right and having to cut some little holes in the radiator support is to high of a price to pay for that, then good luck to you and your car.

[1FASTMP5]

Take it easy there. No need for that. I got my 3" turbo-back long before Jack even mentioned the iON system, and so did a bunch of other people. I'm tired of seeing so many people bashing iON in these totally unrelated threads. What has Jack or anyone at iON ever done to YOU???

Oh, and I heard from a couple of people that all of you guys at Protegefest had nothing but bad things to say about iON products. Stop with the slander right now. Those people that I mentioned were very interested in the iON FMIC untill going to Protegefest and being bombarded with negative comments. I wish that I could have been there to defend iON and their principle of function over form, but I had a medical situation come up, and could not make it due to doctor bills.

I have been off the forums lately, so this has been building up from several posts that I have read tonight.

To all of you that have been bashing iON lately:

iON Performance has done nothing but provide some of the best parts for our cars, and so many of you just talk shit about stupid things. When iON was making the prototype FMIC, Jack came on here and asked us if we wanted a system that had very little pressure drop but would require some cutting for the piping route... or if we wanted a system that required no cutting and had a slightly higher pressure drop. Everybody who responded to that thread wanted the system with less drop, and they made it. Now all I see is people bitch about the cutting that you need to do, and that the IC core sits like 1" off center. (rolleyes) What do you add a FMIC for? For the looks so everyone can see your purdy new IC? Or for the performance of it? The routing of the iON FMIC piping is the straightest path you can possibly have with our setup, plain and simple. If having your core sit 1" to the right and having to cut some little holes in the radiator support is to high of a price to pay for that, then good luck to you and your car.

i agree with not bashing on our VERY few vendors!!!!!! but i never heard anyone bashing ION @ protegefest! that doesnt sound like the mocc heads i know.....maybe someone was there that had a bad experience with them or something?

[Dr.Sound]

dont know about people talking shit about ION at protegefest.

"ALL OF U GUYS AT PROTEGEFEST HAD NOTHONG BUT BAD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT ION"

i'd like to know where u heard that.
i was one of many people who organized and helped at p-fest.
it was a very positive environment, everyone was happy.

[505zoom]

dont know about people talking shit about ION at protegefest.

"ALL OF U GUYS AT PROTEGEFEST HAD NOTHONG BUT BAD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT ION"

i'd like to know where u heard that.
i was one of many people who organized and helped at p-fest.
it was a very positive environment, everyone was happy.

I'm sure it was a good time, I was really looking forward to being there and was really bummed when I got sick. I just know a couple of people from the forums who I talked to afterwards that said iON was badmouthed there. I have no problem with you or anyone who ran the event... at all. I really wanted to meet all of you that I have chatted with, and read posts from for almost a year. I just want to stand up for iON because I agree with their philoshiphy. I don't mind having an IC core that is slightly off center, because I installed the thing myself and cut the holes for the pipes so I understand WHY the core is where it is. The work that they do is amazing, and I am just sick of the bashing that I have read and heard about over the last week.

[jrodhotrod]

I'm sure it was a good time, I was really looking forward to being there and was really bummed when I got sick. I just know a couple of people from the forums who I talked to afterwards that said iON was badmouthed there. I have no problem with you or anyone who ran the event... at all. I really wanted to meet all of you that I have chatted with, and read posts from for almost a year. I just want to stand up for iON because I agree with their philoshiphy. I don't mind having an IC core that is slightly off center, because I installed the thing myself and cut the holes for the pipes so I understand WHY the core is where it is. The work that they do is amazing, and I am just sick of the bashing that I have read and heard about over the last week.
Agreed.

My car was at protegefest with ION FMIC and exhaust. His products are top notch. While I didn't hear anyone bashing his products there personally I felt the atmosphere was very good.

Let's cut our vendors who are willing to support the community of a very limited run car some slack. And can we withold total judgment on the ION exhaust until the dynos come out on the turbo project car? I for one have been extremely happy with it and my off boost driveability has been very minimally impacte if at all. Turbo spools up quicker then it ever did before and in combination with my FMIC turbo lag is practically gone, I can get full spool up fairly early (don't want to put a number down because I am not 100% sure, but if memory serves I am fully spooled by 2500-2800rpm under hard accelleration.)