So I'm thinkin botu a MSP

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

Well i found someone who will give me what i owe on my mp3 +$750 so my dad said if i can find something for under $15k that i want mroe than the mp3 i can swap. My friend deals in used cars and thinks he can find me a MSP for under $15k. What's your guys thoughts on the matter? and what are the general first mods? first thing i was planning on doing is hard pipes. just fishing for feedback.

[Replica]

There are ALOT of nice cars for $15,000 or less. Might want to look outside of Mazdas just for grins. (LS1 camaro, Mustang, WRX, RSX-S, Prelude)

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

There are ALOT of nice cars for $15,000 or less. Might want to look outside of Mazdas just for grins. (LS1 camaro, Mustang, WRX, RSX-S, Prelude)
no V8's = cant afford gas or insurance plus i already have a 91 Z28 for a project car.
wrx = no way in hell im finding a nice one for under $15k
prelude = bitch and a third on insurance




plus i love the mazda handling

[Replica]

no V8's = cant afford gas or insurance plus i already have a 91 Z28 for a project car.
wrx = no way in hell im finding a nice one for under $15k
prelude = bitch and a third on insurance




plus i love the mazda handlingThe new Camaros/ TransAms get great gas mileage, about 28mpg. Insurance for me wasn't much higher than my P5 and I have a spotless record, but that varies per person. I think with some time, a decent WRX can be found in the bug-eyed body style for that price. The Prelude insurance was about the same as the LS1. Call and get some quotes :)

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

The new Camaros/ TransAms get great gas mileage, about 28mpg. Insurance for me wasn't much higher than my P5 and I have a spotless record, but that varies per person. I think with some time, a decent WRX can be found in the bug-eyed body style for that price. The Prelude insurance was about the same as the LS1. Call and get some quotes :)
i did, everything u listed was $315 a month plus, put it this way i pay $256 a month for my mp3

[Black Majik MSP]

If they are selling new for 16.5, you should definately be able to find one used for under 15. For first mods, I would definately suggest turbo-back, Kartboy bushings, AWR motor mounts, Injen converted to SRI, & different springs...that's just what I would do.

[Heathen23]

If you can get a MSP under 15k I'd go for it depending upon how much you have invested into your Mp3. Also if you can get a MSP for under 15k I hate you because I paid close to 19k back in Feb '03. As for a first mod I've done a few and so far the best bang for the buck was my exhaust. It far and away gave me the most performance without altering boost. Hard pipes dont' really yield a real gain and would make more sense to hold out and incorperate a FMIC or SMIC. That and you would probably have to get them custom made considering only essential speed makes a kit for a big chunk of money.

[ThrillRide]

you are not going to find any of those cars new for under 15. you can manage an msp for close to 15. go for the msp. as for what to do first check the sub sections. everyone has their own opinion of what to do first. safe bet is get plugs, guages, k&n drop in just to get started.

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

the reasoning behind the hard pipes was the whole heat sink thing, prolly get a good bov too.

[Black Majik MSP]

the reasoning behind the hard pipes was the whole heat sink thing, prolly get a good bov too.
I should have mentioned that too...check out the Forge BOV.

[ThrillRide]

hey tx here is a thread i started when i was an msp newb. http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28654&page=2&pp=15

that might answer some of your questions. also you should come out to some of the DFW meets and see what some others have done. my exhuast has been by far the best money i have spent so far.

[Replica]

you are not going to find any of those cars new for under 15. you can manage an msp for close to 15. go for the msp. as for what to do first check the sub sections. everyone has their own opinion of what to do first. safe bet is get plugs, guages, k&n drop in just to get started.I found quite a few LS1's for $9k-$14k in great shape. 2001 Preludes were about $13,500 and the RSX-S are a bit pricey even used....

Yikes, sorry to hear about those high insurance rates...:(

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

I found quite a few LS1's for $9k-$14k in great shape. 2001 Preludes were about $13,500 and the RSX-S are a bit pricey even used....

Yikes, sorry to hear about those high insurance rates...:(
yeah i dont need another f-body, mine wil be far into the 12/11 second 1/4 mile range by the end of this year.


and yeah when i was driving thr Z28 daily i got ALOT of tickets, wonder i have my liscence

[ThrillRide]

the key word was new. i agree some of those cars can be had at decent prices used. but a new msp for the same price is a pretty good deal. and insurance isn't too bad.....well if your over 25 and have a clean record that is.

[Replica]

The new mazda 3's are pretty damn cool! I didn't like them until the rev-it-up event. Have you looked into the Focus SVT's?

[Black Majik MSP]

UGH, SVT is crap...the 2.3L Focus gets better times at the track with just a few mods. There is no reason to ever get an SVT over an MSP...they both are the same type of car, but the MSP just does it better.

[Replica]

Just something to think about. Test drive everything under the sun.

[ThrillRide]

off topic a bit, but did you all know that the guy who designed our car is now head of the svt devision? i know we all have issues with some of the design on the msp but lets be honest this guys did a pretty good job and i'm sure we will be doing much better things with svt. regardles i hate ford! :)

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

let me reiterate

USED cars for under $15k, all the oklahoma/texas new msp's have been sold.



and not to be an asshole but i wasnt asking for suggestions on cars i was asking for ur opinions on the MSP.

mz3, not my style of car
focus, no way in hell will i ever buy a ford (and yes i know mazda owns ford but its not the same thing)

[AutoBox]

ford owns mazda :) about the msp....i would get a boost gauge...exhuast, intake and fmic/smic/hardpipes <-----depedning on what u wanna spend etc

good luck on ur buy :)

[Heathen23]

let me reiterate

USED cars for under $15k, all the oklahoma/texas new msp's have been sold.



and not to be an asshole but i wasnt asking for suggestions on cars i was asking for ur opinions on the MSP.

mz3, not my style of car
focus, no way in hell will i ever buy a ford (and yes i know mazda owns ford but its not the same thing)
At this point you probably know enough about the msp to make an informed decision considering you are on the forum. You know your curent car and what you like about it, go drive the msp and see if it's worth it to you.

As for buying a used msp it might be hard to tell how the previous owner treated it but I would look at the tires and see how unevenly warn they are. If they are pretty warn you might consider asking about the previous owners repair record or if they will replace the worn tires (as the life span on the potenzas are a bit short if pushed or have seen lots of expressway miles).

[Replica]

I really didn't think the MSP was worth the price difference over my P5....

[Moeed]

I really didn't think the MSP was worth the price difference over my P5....
the amount of money i saved buying the p5 over the msp was well enough to get the hiboost turbo. Summer of 04, soon to be turboed :)

Jeff, good luck man, hope you stay with mazda's. RX-7 anyone?

[ThrillRide]

i only paid 16k new out the door for my msp. so shoot for a lower price then 15 on a used.

[DiscreetSpeed]

Sweet man..my msp is pretty quick with basic mods....
ive found whats worked for my car....definitley the fmic+intake and exhaust would be my suggestions for the first couple of mods.

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

i drove a MSP and really liked it, handles like my car (cept seemed a little more forgiving for some reason, prolly tires) . normally i think ABS is the spawn of satan but this was irving mazda's yellow test mule (u dallas guys know, the hail damaged one) so i tried a couple of "emergency" stops and liked how the abs is setup, kinda hard ot tell its there. i really want a 03.5 in lbm but i doubt i'll find one. prolly have to settle for a orange or black 03, anything but a yellow 03.5 lol (no offense to the yellow guys i just dont like yellow) talked to my dad about it and hes all for it, now all i need to do is find the MSP and im set. The MP3 will be getting a back to stock special peformed before i sell it, so whatever doesnt swap over to the MSP i'll be selling. (thumb) Also trying to sell my 1992 Z28 engine and 1991 Z28 so i'll have some more mod money. What kinda times are u guys running with say just intake/exhaust, short shifter, hard pipes, bov?

[ThrillRide]

i'll let ya know tomorrow :D i am hitting the track with pirana tonight

only have dump (added 15+ hp) k&n drop in. thats it