View Full Version : mp3's SUCK in snow!!!!!!!!
greerstyl
12-09-2001, 03:04 AM
had the fist snow storn this night and my mp3 sucks. ssways left to right, tires to wide? flat? i dunno, but tomorrow its coming off the road........
INiTiAL33
12-09-2001, 03:15 AM
first of all... dont tell me you have ur stock SP9000s still on there... :rolleyes:
derrick1623
12-09-2001, 03:41 AM
come on...give her a chance...where you at, current conditions...what tires on the car...don't just say she sucks.
PaulMP3
12-09-2001, 12:13 PM
did u have your snow tires on??? i got 205 winter tires just because i dont see to much snow around here i just got them for all the potholes and salt after the snow. I hope i didnt make a mistake buying 205's.
The SP9000's are about the worse I've ever driven in the snow with. They slip left/right and all over the place. I tried going up one hill, only to slide backwards down it.
I've got 4 studs on now, and she's puuurfect. Just as good as my old civic was, just with better power and handling. I'm amazed that even with 14" winter studs on how well this car handles still, you know, considering the tires.
Get them Z-Rated tires off you fool! Just kidding, but really, take them off.
INiTiAL33
12-09-2001, 04:31 PM
the SP9000s are a max performance "SUMMER" tire.... theyare meant to perform in DRY grounds... and they have no snow traction at all.....So if you still have them on driving in a snow storm ..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
DooMer_MP3
12-09-2001, 07:28 PM
Yes, even if you go to Dunlop's tire website, you'll see that they are rated horrible for traction in the winter. These tires are definitely NOT for the winter!
Kooldino
12-10-2001, 10:08 AM
Dammit, I'm gonna DIE this winter (or smash my car...either way my life is over). I can't afford to go out and buy new rims+tires! What did you guys do? Did you buy new RIMS and tires or just tires to go on your 17" rims?
scott42
12-10-2001, 10:52 AM
I just bought some 15s with black steelies. Had them mounted, balanced and delivered to my door all for under $500.
Tire Rack (http://www.tirerack.com)
Kooldino
12-10-2001, 12:04 PM
eek. $500 is a lot to spend on my brand new car...is there a cheaper way to go? I mean, HOW BAD are the stock tires in the snow? Will I wreck my car if I drive with them on?
Really try to get snow/ice tires on some steel rims before it snows too much. Get 14's to lower your cost even more. It'll be even better in the snow than 15's. Would you rather spend 400-500 on winter tires and have an excellent winter, or pay the 100-500 on your deductible to get your car fixed after you put it in the ditch? Depending on how much you use your tires you'll be able to get 2-3 Winters on them.
scott42
12-10-2001, 05:03 PM
From hearing what everyone is saying, they'll be REAL bad in the snow. Look at it this way, to buy a new set of Dunlops (or equivelantS) it'll cost you around 100-120 per tire, plus10-20 for mounting and balancing...usual tire wear for these tires is rumored to be around 15,000mi. In the snow/ice you could cut that milage dramatically because of all the spinning you'll do...thus, you are saving yourself major miles on your good tires, and driving much more safely to boot, if you rationalize and factor everything in, you could come out of it saving yourself quite a bit of money by getting them...good luck... :D
And shop around. 500.00 american seems fairly steep. I got my rims for 42.00 each, canadian, and tires were $60.00 each, and studs were like 7$ per tire
That's Canadian.
I drove my Dunlops around for about 3 weeks in the snow while waiting for my rims to come in. The sand and rocks on the road chips them easily. And their very dangerous on snow. Good idea to get tires.
Don't let there be another MP3 death bud. We'd hate to see your car.....<cough> I mean you get hurt
;)
PaulMP3
12-10-2001, 07:06 PM
i got mine 205 55 r15'a for 428 @ www.discounttiredirect.com (http://www.discounttiredirect.com) havent put them on yet i probally will this weekend. Kooldino where in newjersey do u live i work in Hillsboro NJ and i ve seen 2 mp3s up there also i saw an mp3 at the oxford valley mall in PA with jersey Tags is this You?? I would Really like to talk to another mp3 owner ive seen a few but never talk to them.
wheelguruuu
12-10-2001, 07:42 PM
hey I have those mp5 wheels and tires for sale in the for sale section and they do give light snow traction polished alloys with new tires under 500.00 make me a deal!
guruuu!
PaulMP3
12-10-2001, 11:53 PM
i wish i would have seen that before i bought my black steel rims :mad:
mazdamp3_18
12-11-2001, 09:34 AM
i wish some of you guys lived near michigan b/c i work at discount tire and i get some really good deals. i just bought new tires for my dads navigator and they were only 350 for all 4 tires. would have costed around 600.
im not even driving my car in the winter this year. im driving the navigator. so i dont have to worry about road salt or any accidents.
Kooldino
12-11-2001, 10:00 AM
Paulmp3222, I live near Stockton College...about 10 minutes West of Atlantic City. Nah, that wasn't me you saw in PA. Haven't been out of state w/ it yet.
Okay, here's what I think I've decided on (for now). If I can get a cheap set of rims/tires, I'll do it. But they'd have to be like $300 cheap. Wheelguruuu, I'll offer ya $300 for your tires/rims! Might not be much, but it's better than nothing.
Anyway, the thing about where I live is that it only snows a couple of times a year (knock on wood)...and I can't really justify spending $500+ to make my car ugly + poor handling for maybe 2 or so snowstorms. Anyone see what I'm sayin?
scott42
12-11-2001, 10:19 AM
I'm hearin what you're saying, but it only takes one storm ruin your whole car... :(
You could just find another ride if it snows and let your car sit if you don't want to roll the dice...you've got to weight the risk/rewards... :D
don't forget, the rims will get all messed up from the salt, sand and gravel...
scott42
12-11-2001, 10:22 AM
Paul, I'm with you on wishing I saw Guru's P5 wheels + tires before getting the ol steelies...oh well right...
Have you gotten, or are you going to get covers? tough debate: cheesy wheel cover look, or ghetto (though still kind of bad ass) lookin steel...hmmmmmmm :confused:
I'm probably throwing mine on sometime in the next week or two myself. Let me know what you think of them when you put them on. :)
trobbins
12-11-2001, 10:23 AM
Remember that your rims cost about $250 each and salt/sand will pound them to death. I would atleast getting steel rims for about $40 each and get some cheap all season tires from pep boys or something for $40 each. They will probably be better in the snow and they will save your alloys. We must sacrafice the cars looks in the winter for a better looking car in the summer. Plus when people see you with a cool car with hub caps in the winter they know what you are doing.
Tim
Kooldino
12-11-2001, 04:42 PM
Well, I checked out http://www.discounttiredirect.com/
and the cheapest 14" rims+tires that they have are $316 for all four...I'm seriously considering it...
chitownmp3
12-11-2001, 09:55 PM
Im with Tim I'm running my black mad max look all winter {no pimp} but its better than wrecking my 17s or my ride! :cool:
PaulMP3
12-11-2001, 10:59 PM
3pmadzam, i think im just gonna stick with all black steelies for now, hub caps look cheesy. i was thinkin if i could find some mazda ones it would be aight. but prob just leave them bare for now. im probally gonna put them on this weekend cause im goin up to pennstate this weekend and heard it might snow. where in philly are u from, i live right off rt 1 oxford valley exit. and go to school at Pennstate abington.
StuttersC
12-12-2001, 02:57 AM
We had a pretty nice snow storm a few eeks ago. I'm still on the Dunlops. It was fun that night and the morning after. (smile so you know I'm joking)
But, that snow storm was a rare occurence here, so, is it really worth paying over $400+ for rims and snow tires??
I just don't know...We shall see how the rest of the winter goes. Most storms roll through and if anything is on the road, its gone by the next afternoon in most places. I just don't know.
scott42
12-12-2001, 03:43 PM
I'm basically at the crossroads of 202 and Rt. 3...There is another MP3 that goes to West Chester Univ. that I see every once and a while...I graduated two years ago from school, so I bees workin' :D
PaulMP3
12-12-2001, 09:07 PM
Put my black snow tires on just now. they look weird i will have to get use to them or get some hubs. it rides so much smoother and quieter without the low pros. but deffinitly lacks the handling it had with the dunlops. oh well it a godd trade off for the winter.
Paulmp3 - where in hillsboro do you work???
I may have been one of the MP3's you saw. I have a blue one and I live in Kendall Park, NJ which is about 15 minutes away from Hillsboro, I have family that lives there and I drive through it all the time when I go to my old work.
scott42
12-13-2001, 10:43 AM
Cool. thanks for the update. I think Mine will go on this weekend or next week...
did you just do it yourself or did you have someone else do it (just wondering if you can just switch them up like a spare or there is added steps that I don't know of...) also, did you get new lug nuts or did you use the ones on the the reg. wheels?
:)
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