What mods do we need but don't yet have or would like a better one of?

[Pkay]

My G/F is about to start designing new intake boxes for 3rd gen rx7's and a few other parts for the 3rd gens. I've since convinced her it'd be worth her time and effort to do a few things for the MSP/Protege while she's at it.

Is there anything performance or cosmetic we haven't already got out there? Anything you guys would like to see? Feel free to mention whatever.... be it a battery tie or a rear skirt or otherwise. Obviously we're not talking about a new tranny but intake, hardpipes, etc etc are still posibilities.

And before you get skeptical, shes an Art Center Industrial Design grad (basicly the breeding ground for car designers) so shit should come out looking nice and functioning perfectly.


Anywho this is a ways off but just trying to get ideas of what you guys would like to see or have options for.

[Dreeza]

Feel free to mention whatever.... be it a battery tie or a rear skirt or otherwise.
i like both those ideas :p

[vodapas77]

Sti style foglight covers please. Either solid or mesh would be great. But both would be outstanding.

[GA_MZDASPEED]

How about a carbon fiber splitter to go under the front lip with stainless Heim joints and a carbon fiber rear difuser to go under the rear lip

[mazdaspeedpower]

a good working dual exhaust with the stock style tips. I know, I could get it done custom, but it would be much easier if it was already a product, I know others would buy it too. Also try to reatain some form of Cat., or leave a space, where you could either put a hi flow cat, or straight pipe it.

[Pkay]

Are you wanting dual tip catback (ie stock 3rd gen rx7) or split dual pipe (ie rx8) ????

Neither would be too overly costly to pull off only thing would be the molding off the back bumper IE making a new rear skirt to fit it



a good working dual exhaust with the stock style tips. I know, I could get it done custom, but it would be much easier if it was already a product, I know others would buy it too. Also try to reatain some form of Cat., or leave a space, where you could either put a hi flow cat, or straight pipe it.

[mazdaspeedpower]

I mean true dual, one on each side of the car. ..O...............O..

[mazdaspeedpower]

kinda like this, it's a really rough photoshop, but you git the idea.
http://www.msprotege.com/members/mazdaspeedpower/_dual.jpg

EDIT* Of course, it would be equalized better, mines off by a few inches, but you have the general affect

[Matthew]

you cant have a true dual exhaust with a freaking four cylinder car.

[jred321]

Sti style foglight covers please. Either solid or mesh would be great. But both would be outstanding.too late for me, one fog took a rock now it has a nice hole in it


i say an intake that sits over behind the headlight with a nice heat shield around it that seals with the hood (weather stripping or foam at the top to provide seal). also a replacement s pipe that bolts to the stock location would be wonderful

[jred321]

you cant have a true dual exhaust with a freaking four cylinder car.you could, it'd be tough with that turbo in the way though, and have to be 100% custom from the head back if you wanted to do it. totally not worth it

[mazdaspeedpower]

you cant have a true dual exhaust with a freaking four cylinder car.
I meant as true as can be with a 4 cyl., smart ass ;):)

[mazdaspeedpower]

what I mean, is like from the turbo back or something, jeez, you guys get way too technical.I bow to your technical brains, now you know what I mean, right????? You guys are fast too.

[Roywhitep5]

okay, how about a scoop for under the drivers side fender. the cai filters go into that space and if the bottom plastic sheet was replaced with a upside down scoop, you would get a ram air effect on the freeway.

good idea yah?

[shaolin]

Funny, I was going to school for industrial design before I just went straight into computer animation, and from what I learned, industrial designers don't design mechanical parts, but rather aesthetics. Isn't all this mechanical engineering stuff? Check out
www.core77.com (http://www.core77.com)

[GAspeedProtege]

It's not gonna be easy to do dual, not with the stock protege bumper anyway. If we had an aftermarket that hung lower it wouldn't have such a clearence problem, otherwise, you're going to be cutting and moving a lot of stuff.

[mazdaspeedpower]

ok, heres another rough Photoshot, but I'm sure if you made the little lexus style lights, someone would buy them, not me, but someone.
http://www.msprotege.com/members/mazdaspeedpower/lexusstyle.jpg

[Roywhitep5]

enough with the dual exhaust idea!!!! SCOOP!!!!!!!!

[mazdaspeedpower]

It's not gonna be easy to do dual, not with the stock protege bumper anyway. If we had an aftermarket that hung lower it wouldn't have such a clearence problem, otherwise, you're going to be cutting and moving a lot of stuff.
You could get a body shop to grind out a spot, and finish and touch it up to look stock, I could make it happen if they made the parts.hell, I could dremel it if I had to.

[mazdaspeedpower]

enough with the dual exhaust idea!!!! SCOOP!!!!!!!!
like, hood scoop???cause if they mad a suuby style hood, it would sell

[Roywhitep5]

okay, how about a scoop for under the drivers side fender. the cai filters go into that space and if the bottom plastic sheet was replaced with a upside down scoop, you would get a ram air effect on the freeway.

good idea yah?

[ViksMSP]

okay, how about a scoop for under the drivers side fender. the cai filters go into that space and if the bottom plastic sheet was replaced with a upside down scoop, you would get a ram air effect on the freeway.

good idea yah?I believe corksport got a scoop for a cai already, not sure if they are selling it or not but I've seen it personally and it looks cool.
But, back on the new Item idea:
We really, really need a Short Raim Intake with a 3/4" nipple about 2 inches away from the turbo for the bypass valve. I know it can be done, and I've talked with Corksport about it, but they said making a cai is just easier.
I don't really care about easier or harder we need one bad!
Also a rear bumper skirt with a circle hole not oval for aftermarket exhausts.

Thanks,
Vik.

[mazdaspeedpower]

yeah, i just saw the first one, sorry

[Kansei]

like, hood scoop???cause if they mad a suuby style hood, it would sell
I was just thinking the same thing. My friend has a 2000 Impreza 2.5RS and he keeps telling me that my protege looks a lot like his car (both silver, both with the big fog lights, and both how they have the nice black/silver interiors with sporty cloth seats and silver gauges and stuff... but then i realize that i don't have that awesome hood scoop :(

Oh and Roywhitep5 doesn't someone already make that? I know I've seen pictures of it, made out of fiberglass i think. Someone was on here selling it i'll try to look for it.

[Hercdriver]

Bump on the scoop.

[GAspeedProtege]

The bumper isn't the problem, look underneath your bumper on the side you want the new exhaust on. You have a tow hitch, spare tire carrier, and wiring all in the way. Not to mention the body. I am still serious about doing this, but without an aftermarket bumper so I can hang the new exhaust below all that crap and not have it look stupid it will be very expensive.

[mazdaspeedpower]

maybe make it dual piping right up to the rear, and have the side that doesn't have exhaust now, just run along the very back, showing a nice nig chrome muffler, and then angle out, I'll draw it
http://www.msprotege.com/members/mazdaspeedpower/exhaust.jpg
it's rough, but you get the idea

EDIT* oh, and make sure the pipes are straight, not all squiggly, and stuff.lol (nana)and the exhaust would start off from the turbo back, pretty much stock diameter so that there is still enough back pressure to not cause problems, but like ,add a 3inch small extension from the turbo,than split it off into two pipes, and go from there.....i dunno, my interpretation of what would work, or is this too far off. I'm gone, and I'll check back tomorow, feel free to PM about this.

[CatD399]

I don't think you'll be able to squeeze two pipes in that exhaust recess; more likely you can increase your pipe diameter then T off just in front of the stock muffler and on the second one... However it's like GA says, all the stuff's in the way (heat shield??), and crossing over near the gas tank might be an issue (not to mention that if you have nowhere to tuck it into, it will be left hanging under...).

As for the bumper, is it possible to heat-form it?

[Pkay]

Funny, I was going to school for industrial design before I just went straight into computer animation, and from what I learned, industrial designers don't design mechanical parts, but rather aesthetics. Isn't all this mechanical engineering stuff? Check out
www.core77.com (http://www.core77.com)
Industrial designers are more appearance than that of mechanical however most parts of a car have simple known mechanical functionality leaving the rest to be cosmetic. Despite popular belief it doesn't take a rocket scientist to design a CAI. We all know how a CAI works. You're into computer animation so you're on the up and up with maya and 3dsm.... build a 3d model and you can test a lot more of the physics than straight hand made stuff.... from there CNC machine.... and then you're on your way.


Industrial Design still has to learn the inside and out of a car (at least most do).


BTW: where you workin at now? It's funny you mention ID people going into computer animation and what not.... the g/f found video game companys pay a lot better than car companys so she's working for SOE now.

[Pkay]

As far as dual exhaust, you'd have to do a fakey. Funny thing is a lot of cars that have dual exhaust are just for looks. What's even funnier than that is the dual tip catbacks that are basicly just a piece of metal with a tip on the end welded onto a normal exhaust (cough GM cough)

[Pkay]

The rear skirt thing is very doable. If enough ppl are interested that could be the first thing she does as many ppl have aftermarket exhausts.

[ViksMSP]

The rear skirt thing is very doable. If enough ppl are interested that could be the first thing she does as many ppl have aftermarket exhausts.Yeah, and make it blend in with the rest of the kit so it don't look weird. It'll be urethane right? I don't want fiberglass on my car.

[CatD399]

I had a thought about that; driving around with a spare exhaust, a new set of hangers and a modified bumper might do it down south where it's constantly warm, but up here, exhaust is in the form of a white cloud as soon as the temperature goes below freezing. So your cover is pretty much blown then. Makes a nice trail in the rearview mirror when you're pushing a bit hard though!!(evil)

[Subghetto]

How about some:

angle eyes
projector headlights
midwing- that actually would flow nice with the car like the one on the civic si from wingswest-no ebay crap.

[ViksMSP]

How about some:

angle eyes
projector headlights
midwing- that actually would flow nice with the car like the one on the civic si from wingswest-no ebay crap.How about a bodykit that would look like this.
http://www.msprotege.com/members/shaolin/sig.jpg

[Slickfabo]

1.How about a hood scoop or any scoop the would effect the stock intercooler...something that would give it a nice breeze. :)

2.i would get that body kit!

[Kansei]

1.How about a hood scoop or any scoop the would effect the stock intercooler...something that would give it a nice breeze. :)

2.i would get that body kit!
yeah another bump for the scoop

even though I have no turbo it'd look nice
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/386000-386999/386289_32_full.jpg

[mspdfreak]

A subaru scoop and dual exhaust?(rice)

[computerGeek]

AMEN!!!!!!!!!
A subaru scoop and dual exhaust?(rice)

[^tyrant^]

i would like to see some hydraulic hinges for the hood, Auto exec makes them but i think that there fucken nuts asking $265 for 2 hydraulic lift arms and what looks to be a mounting plate.

[shaolin]

Industrial designers are more appearance than that of mechanical however most parts of a car have simple known mechanical functionality leaving the rest to be cosmetic. Despite popular belief it doesn't take a rocket scientist to design a CAI. We all know how a CAI works. You're into computer animation so you're on the up and up with maya and 3dsm.... build a 3d model and you can test a lot more of the physics than straight hand made stuff.... from there CNC machine.... and then you're on your way.


Industrial Design still has to learn the inside and out of a car (at least most do).


BTW: where you workin at now? It's funny you mention ID people going into computer animation and what not.... the g/f found video game companys pay a lot better than car companys so she's working for SOE now.
Actually I'm still studying at UNLV. I got pulled out of school for the war, and when I got back I just got started again this past January and I'm currently a Realtor trying to put myself through school. I should be done soon, but anytime you wanna talk Computer Animation/Rendering let me know, I'm always up for it....BTW your girlfriend should hook me up with a job when I get done next year...hahaha