Jegs Gauges

[mattybo]

Im pretty much a newb when it comes to turbo applications. My last vehicle was a NA integra. I just bought an MSP this weekend and have ordered a few mods for my car including; Injen intake, Boost gauge(steering column), TT and a profec b. However i would like to get a/f ratio and oil temp on my a pillar. I went to the jegs website to find the ultra lite series which apparently matches stock colors. They have mechanical and electrical, sorry for the stupid question but which is better or which should i use?

[jersey_emt]

All a/f gauges are electrical.

You want an electrical oil gauge...you can't mount a mechanical oil pressure gauge inside the cabin (well you COULD, but you shouldn't, because hot oil is going to the gauge)

[Wiggles6983]

I like electrical but it cost more.

[VegasMSP]

I just pm'd you back mattybo! Welcome aboard btw. :D

[mattybo]

ah ok, so i would just need electrical 2 1/16 gauges. Also Vegas, did your A-Pillar come in that color or did you have to paint it? I'm thinking i might go with the DG Motorsport carbon fiber A-Pillar and just drop an a/f ratio gauge in there. Im gonna install the boost gauge right above the steering column and i dont see any reason for an oil pressure gauge. I only plan on maybe running 10psi max. Any advice?

[VegasMSP]

ah ok, so i would just need electrical 2 1/16 gauges. Also Vegas, did your A-Pillar come in that color or did you have to paint it? I'm thinking i might go with the DG Motorsport carbon fiber A-Pillar and just drop an a/f ratio gauge in there. Im gonna install the boost gauge right above the steering column and i dont see any reason for an oil pressure gauge. I only plan on maybe running 10psi max. Any advice?
Pillar pod comes in black. I just painted it to try to match the original color. As for carbon fiber that's up to your taste. Boost and A/f gauges are a great start. Oil temp or pressure gauges are also helpful.

[mspeed101]

ah ok, so i would just need electrical 2 1/16 gauges. Also Vegas, did your A-Pillar come in that color or did you have to paint it? I'm thinking i might go with the DG Motorsport carbon fiber A-Pillar and just drop an a/f ratio gauge in there. Im gonna install the boost gauge right above the steering column and i dont see any reason for an oil pressure gauge. I only plan on maybe running 10psi max. Any advice?Are you flashed? If so then I would recommend a fuel cut defenser cause you will most likely hit fuel cut. Also I would get a dual setting boost controller and set stage1 at stock boost and stage2 to 10psi just to be safe.

[jersey_emt]

Are you flashed? If so then I would recommend a fuel cut defenser cause you will most likely hit fuel cut. Also I would get a dual setting boost controller and set stage1 at stock boost and stage2 to 10psi just to be safe.Flash has nothing to do with fuel cut...the fuel cut happens because the MAF sensor sees too much air, and its voltage maxxes out..the ECU doesn't know what to do, so it cuts fuel to protect the motor.

You definitly don't want the FCD on a flashed car unless you know what you're doing and you have supporting mods...the advanced timing of the flash makes it more prone to detonation, especially at higher than stock boost.

[mattybo]

Well i want the profec b set for two modes; 1) stock 2)10psi. Im guessing i will know if the fuel cut kicks in? Will my engine just turn off?


P.S. I have a 2003.5 MSP so i dont know what your talking about when you say flashed/non-flashed.

[jersey_emt]

You'll know when you hit fuel cut...you're accelerating pretty quickly @ or near WOT...then all of a sudden BAM! You completely stop accelerating...it feels like you've hit a brick wall.

Flash refers to the PCM reprogramming done by the dealer...look in the sticky threads at the top of this section for more details.

[2K3 MSP]

Don't waste your time with an A/F ratio gauge...Get an EGT gauge instead. It's much more useful.

[jersey_emt]

I'd rather get the A/F now..and then when I have money for a wideband get that and the adaptor that actually makes the Autometer A/F accurate :)

[mattybo]

Well based on the sticky article i read, it wouldnt be a good idea to get my ECU flashed since i plan on installing a boost controller. I havent felt any problems yet, but then again I've only driven the car 40 miles hehe.

[mattybo]

sorry consider me stupid, but what is an EGT gauge?

[2K3 MSP]

exhaust gas temp. As far as getting flashed, chances are, it was already done at the dealer ship...especially if you haven't noticed any problems.

[jersey_emt]

EDIT: ^^^ beat me to it!

EGT = Exhaust Gas Temperature

A car running lean has a higher exhaust temperature than a car running rich...by monitoring the exhaust temperature, you can get an idea of how rich/lean your car is running.

[mattybo]

well i just bought the car yesterday, so i have no idea whether its flashed or not. I dont want to run into any problem by adding 3-4 more pounds of boost and causing permanent damage to my engine. Couldnt i retard the timing a little to compensate for the flash? I have a timing gun....

[jersey_emt]

I don't think timing guns work with distributorless ignition systems....

[mattybo]

as i said, i'm a newb when it comes to these applications. Ive been getting advice off a friend who heads the Formula Race Car team here at the university of maryland.

Ill have to ask the dealership if they have flashed the ecu or not. Then ill figure out something from there. Until then ill continue to do tons of research on this vehicle.

[t3ase]

Are you flashed? If so then I would recommend a fuel cut defenser cause you will most likely hit fuel cut. Also I would get a dual setting boost controller and set stage1 at stock boost and stage2 to 10psi just to be safe.
Please do not suggest that newer members get a FCD. The FCD will make it ten times easier to cause permanent damage to your engine. And as jersey said, the flash has nothing to do with the FCD.

[SpeedMcheen]

Where does the EGT gauge's temp sensor get placed? Does it take special modification to the exhaust system to place a sensor there, or is it an electrical splice to an existing temp gauge?

Also, is there such thing as an intake air temperature gauge? I would love one of those.