Tranny Recall Petition!!!

[MP3-Owner]

Lets start a petition for the MP3 tranny or maybe all protege tranny's.

[zoomzoom02]

I'm with you on that, but I have no idea how to start one. Anyone know?

[mazdamp3_18]

i totally agree with that

how do we start one????

[derrick1623]

go to petitionsonline.com and start one there, btw wtf happened to the z919 petition???!!!

[Kooldino]

Sign MY @ss up!

[joshyellomp3]

call me stupid, but what is wrong with the tranny? Should i be worried?

Thanks
Josh

[MP3-Owner]

Anyone here in the legal business that knows how to word a petition?

We don't want to come off the wrong way, we want to put ourselves in the position of the person recieving the letter.
We need to have our facts together as well.

Here is the online form... http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html

[joshyellomp3]

so seriously, what is wrong w/the trans?

[APEXistud]

There's nothing wrong with my tranny, but I'll sign if it'll help you guys who are having problems out. Who knows, I may start to have problems with my tranny.

[Newf]

Mine is ok so far ( fingers crossed) But you got my signature. I may not be so lucky one day.

[20ESGUY]

MP3 owner, can't attach a word document so if you like it just copy and paste. Once you get the petition up, lemme know. Haven't had problems yet, but if i do a recall would be nice.

This petition is to hereby request a formal international recall investigation of the model year 2000 through the current model year of the Mazda Protégé sedan, Mazda MP3, and Mazda Protégé 5 hatchback. The recall investigation should concentrate on accusations of a faulty 5 speed manual transmissions causing the transmission to lock up while driving or loss of forward momentum, which in turn can cause loss of vehicle control or lead to involvement in a serious accident. By signing this petition all the undersigned do agree with the above made statements and do hereby formally request to be notified of any action undertaken by either the National Highway Traffic Safety Board or by Mazda Motor Co. LTD

[freekwonder]

let me know, ill sign. i had to have my third gear and synrchos replaced. and i know a lot of people complain about 1st to 2nd being a little tuff.

[Traveler]

Hey guys, over at the Protegeclub forum we've discussed the shifting problem. One of the Admins solved it with Motul fluid in the clutch system and then bleeding it really well. The stock stuff acts like the clutch isn't dis-engaging fully and that might be the problem with the synchros. I notice a little bit of a notchiness from 1st to 2nd, and a little less 2nd to 3rd so I'm going to try this on my car also.

[JcsMP3]

Originally posted by Traveler
Hey guys, over at the Protegeclub forum we've discussed the shifting problem. One of the Admins solved it with Motul fluid in the clutch system and then bleeding it really well. The stock stuff acts like the clutch isn't dis-engaging fully and that might be the problem with the synchros. I notice a little bit of a notchiness from 1st to 2nd, and a little less 2nd to 3rd so I'm going to try this on my car also.

huh ok... what is Motul Fluid... and do I drain the tranny? I have no idea what you are talking about here.... please speak english and v e r y s l o w l y LOL.... I am no mechanic by any means...

but I am signing whatever petition goes up my tranny died at 9 000 km's 2 months after I bought it....

Jc

[MP3-E]

yeah, ill throw my sig on there. im kinda sick of how damn bouncy my car is sometimes, should shoot for a new tranny, clutch and poly motor mounts :)

[905MP3]

If you guys are putting down your names, don't forget to count me in. I certainly don't want to worry about my tranny breaking down on me before or after the warrenty. Mazda admited that their tranny on the protege is a weak link and having problems. Since they know that, we have every right as customers of Mazda, to complain and plus they do know that if everyone living on this planet know the fact that protege's tranny are bad, no-one will buy the proteges.

When I had my civic I didn't have to worry about tranny goofing up on me. I wish that the Proteges tranny are stronger than they are now, so certainly count me in.

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[adrianblack]

As for the clutch fluid -- it's possible...

The MP3 has a more aggresive clutch than the MP5/ES which is why the clutch point is so low. If sometimes it doesn't fully disengage it stresses the syncros. And that could explain why MP3's seem to be having more of this problem.

You have to make sure you push the clutch down FULLY and it shuold easily come out of gear... I notice that on some shifts is resists a bit coming out of 1st gear -- and this could be the problem happening.

But changing to Motul fluid and bleeding the system? I don't know if that will make any difference.... but it might.

I think my clutch takeup point moves around a bit quiet down low... But I also think it's my imagination. Anyone else notice this?

[adrianblack]

Oh yeah, no tranny problems for me but only 5000 miles on my car. But it is all city miles. All shifts are fine except sometimes it's a bit hard to go into 1st -- but it's been like that since the begining. I usually just shift into another gear and then it goes in. Reverse sometimes doesn't go all the way in ... I just let off the brake and let the car move a little and it just goes in nicely.

Never force reverse -- it's easy to mess it up. And honestly, all cars that don't have a reverse syncro have that problem. All the cars I've ever driven, at least. BMW's have reverse syncro so you can go into reverse while moving forward even!!

OH, my friend's 2001 Civic shifts like a dream compared with my MP3. The shifter slides into any gear instantly and without resitance. I was shocked to drive it. But it also doesn't feel very "positive." And that niceness will probably wear out.

[mikesmazda155]

I will also put my name on this petition. I am tired of the bouncy tranny.:mad: So let me know where to sign up.

[goldbond828]

I'm only 11,000 miles young now and haven't had any real tranny problems yet, but they could be coming. im definitely down for the petition.

[Jay]

I have 7,500 miles on my MP3 and had no problems with my tranny(knock on wood), but I will definitely want my name down on the petiton.

[KurtMP3]

You know Im in

[mx6929]

Count me in! I had experiences that my local Mazda dealer did not know what I meant when I told them the bushing and windshield problems. They actually had to follow what I pinted out from HERE to figure out what to do! I think it's not totally their fault since we have only 1500 MP3s. But we are still Mazda's customers. So I think we should gather up and let Mazda knows they have 1500 MP3s out there on streets. I also have 1st to 2nd gear problem when in high RPM. By the way, my clutch gets some annoying "click" sound when I step it. No matter which angel I tried, still has that clunky sound. Anybody?

[MP3-Owner]

I took 20ESGUY's form and added a little to it.
What does everyone think of this Petition form?

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This petition is to hereby request a formal international recall investigation of the model year 2000 through the current model year of the Mazda Protégé sedan, Mazda MP3, and Mazda Protégé 5 hatchback. The recall investigation should concentrate on accusations of the faulty transmission in the MP3 which has the G5M-R transmission and the G15M-R transmissions found in the Protégé ES sedan's and the Protégé 5's w/ manual transmissions. The failure of this part while driving can cause loss of vehicle control and/or lead to involvement in a serious accident.

At the conclusion of the Investigation, if there is enough evidence found to warrent a recall the undersigned would like to see Mazda Motor Co. LTD replace all faulty units in the models specified.

By signing this petition all the undersigned do agree with the above made statements and do hereby formally request to be notified of any action undertaken by either the National Highway Traffic Safety Board or by Mazda Motor Co. LTD

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I need your Honest Opinion's

[KurtMP3]

I like it, but has their been problems in P5's and sedans?

[1sty]

I'm in too

[INiTiAL33]

Count me in................ Nuthing is wrong with my tranny so far (knock on wood) but if its really screwing other members then i want mine replaced too!

[StuttersC]

The only problem with the wording is, "if there is enough evidence found to warrent a recall the undersigned would like to see Mazda Motor Co. LTD replace all faulty units in the models specified. "

If there was a need to do a recall, they would do one anyway...

Remember the cost analysis involved there.

[MP3-Owner]

So maybe like this instead...

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This petition is to hereby request a formal international recall investigation of the model year 2000 through the current model year of the Mazda Protégé sedan, Mazda MP3, and Mazda Protégé 5 hatchback. The recall investigation should concentrate on accusations of the faulty transmission in the MP3 which has the G5M-R transmission and the G15M-R transmissions found in the Protégé ES sedan's and the Protégé 5's w/ manual transmissions. The failure of this part while driving can cause loss of vehicle control and/or lead to involvement in a serious accident.

By signing this petition all the undersigned do agree with the above made statements and do hereby formally request to be notified of any action undertaken by either the National Highway Traffic Safety Board or by Mazda Motor Co. LTD

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[StuttersC]

I would possibly add some of the evidence that you have.

You know, saying there have been an x number of transmission failures over the past y number years in so many cars. Also put what kind of failures they were, eg. shift forks, syncros, etc...

[MP3-Owner]

Sounds good.
Everyone please feel free to run with this petition form. I am really not good putting things to words, atleast not in legal terms. But I will try if no one else wants to.

[BlueMP5Racer]

Go for it......

I have just noticed about a week ago it being a tight shift at higher rpm's. I have about 4000 miles on my MP5 now.....

[905MP3]

Hello everyone,

If I am not so busy with my work and school, I would be more than happy to write the petition. I graduated with a Criminal Justice degree with a concentration in Law, currently in Graduate school studying Criminal Justice/ Corrections/ minor in civil law, and currently working a part-time job as a paralegal.

First of all Mazda is a well respected corp. that sold over millions of qaulity cars since they came to existance. Writing this petition to them should be more than what we have now. If not, then they will just read the letter like how all the letters they get from mad customers.

Inorder to have an impact on Mazda we need to target their corporation and need to know who to complain to. I read the petition and it is very well writen, but we need one more thing that will have or make the petition more powerful. We need proof that if the transmission breaks down on us while in or out of gear, we as customers 'WILL' get hurt or cause death.

We would have to do more research on this issue of accidents, finding out approximately how many accidents in the past (2001 - 2003)that the cause of the accident is link to transmission, and what kind of injuries occured. We need to prove on letter that the accident is the cause of the transmission (meaning gears exploding, shifting, ect...anything transmission related) . We need to be direct, not vague.

I know that this sounds harder than it is, but if we can get these questions answered, we will have a big impact on Mazda Corp. and they will do something about the complaint.

If there is anything I could do please let me know. I'm pretty busy with both work and school but I'll try to help as much as I can. Thank you all for reading this reply.
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Oh yea, don't forget to count me in! My car shift really weird now. hum....?

[MP3-Owner]

I started this thread just to see "How many" people were having problems that would be willing to go the extra mile to try and get something done about it.

Thanks 905MP3 for your response, it has made me think of just how unprepared we are. We need to step back and think this through thouroghly before we send anything like this off to a company as Powerful as Mazda.

Lets start with the accidents...I am not sure if any have actually occured that are directly related to the transmission. We need to do ALOT more research on this subject. I know in my case the tranny didn't cause any damage to anything but my motor and even that has not been proven, so right now all we have is speculation.

We need to find out if this is a problem in the MP3 "ONLY", and if so then lets find out just how many are having problems and what kind of problems are they having.
If it is not just an MP3 related problem then we need to find out if it is a specific type of transmission or maybe even a specific part "in" the transmission that is failing.

So needless to say there is quite a bit of research to do on this subject, but if we can get all the information gathered it would be GREAT if you(905MP3) could find the time to write this petition. We need someone with your background to make it as professional sounding as possible.

[905MP3]

I have read what you wrote (petition), and it sounds fine. If you guys do want me to write the petition, it will take a while to get it done because as of right now, I have many task to do. I think that since MP3-Owner, already started with the petition, I'll proof-read what you will write and when it is done we could send it to Mazda corp.

In the mean time I'll ask one of my friends, he's second year Law student, for more advise on what to exspect from Mazda.

If this goes accordling to plan it's going to be a big case.
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Plan B:
We could also start small like email or telling Dateline, 48 Hours or any of the specials on television so that we as Protege owners get known. (First step in the process is, "get known")

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[protege G3SR]

these friggin idiots at mazda had to chande the tranny seal 6 times in 2 years......WTF? :WTF:

i have a 1.6L i kicked some MP5 @ss lastnight!

[scott42]

Ok, since I'm not so well versed in the whole transmission part of cars, would this problem be described by an instance like this...you're rolling along in second, around 3000 or so rpm maybe less, and you let off the gas, and you feel like you car is attempting to give you whiplash by herking and jerking back and forth? (stupid)