Wtf V6-mp3?

[misbehave]

http://users.pullman.com/winglo/v6mp3.jpg

I found this on a Seattle Auto Mart mag.

Is that for real? Possible? (boom04)

[stdntDrvr]

type-o

i'd hold the dealership to it...just go in there and in a nice southern voice say:
"well god damn, you said it had a V6...you best be puttin that shit in 'der"

"or at least come off that price about 3 grand...that's what the V6'll cost me."

[mazdaspeedpower]

hahahahaha, I don't even know what all the P_ things mean, and I don't think the dealer does either...buy it, and then sue them for freud or false advertising...bling bling, get the car for free then.

[eting_pro5]

Power Steering, Power Brakes, Power Windows, Power Door Locks, Power Mirrors


ONLY 14 GRAND FOR A CAR WITH POWER STEERING AND BRAKES?! WOWIE!

dumb shit dealers just like to fill space with that bs.

[StreetPreacher]

hahahahaha, I don't even know what all the P_ things mean, and I don't think the dealer does either...buy it, and then sue them for freud or false advertising...bling bling, get the car for free then.

Power Steering, Power Breaks?, Power Windows, Power Door Locks, Power Mirrors.
:p

[stdntDrvr]

<------------dumbshit salesman :(

[tonkabui]

i didn't think the mp3's had ABS?

[misbehave]

I don't have any problem with all the power this, power that.
But the V6...........~_~

[mazdaman_49]

mp3 doesnt have ABS either.

not even an option.

[Stanage]

mp3 doesnt have ABS either.

not even an option.

Excuse me? the Mp3's don't have ABS? :wtf: I think my MSP has 4 wheel ABS!?

[jersey_emt]

Yeah well that's the MSP not the MP3. Different car.

[Matthew]

wait, justin, you mean there is more proteges than just the mazdaspeed???? :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

[jersey_emt]

It says you drive a protege5.... what is that?



LOL!!!!

Yeah I'm one of the few that realize the fact that there's other proteges out there....

[MP3skaterNC]

yep, no abs on my car. doesn't really bother me.

[eting_pro5]

Topher....are you a car salesman?? That'd be a pretty kick ass job, but your field of work has a bad reputations. That sucks. Sorry.

[stdntDrvr]

yeah...and i know about "bad reputations"...people just don't understand that we're not here to take your money, lie, steal...whatever...i'm just trying to feed my family. it's a job...everyone should read this:

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html?tid=edmunds.a.landing.buying..4.*

then maybe people will understand that car salesmen are people too, dammit! lol.

[Kooldino]

LOL @ we-todds who make car ads.

PS-my MP3 has a V8 in it and AWD.

[hi-perf]

please remember that a ford contour SVT V6 engine is a direct bolt on into our cars.

perhaps the dealer is right, but i would have to see it to believe it.

ill give it the benefit of the doubt though.

[DooMer_MP3]

Uhh, what? Since when?

Chris

[hi-perf]

Uhh, what? Since when?

Chris
linky (http://mazdamp3.com/vbb230/showthread.php?t=47209&highlight=contour)

well maybe not direct bolt on, but fairly simple to do compared to other engine swaps.

[StuttersC]

linky (http://mazdamp3.com/vbb230/showthread.php?t=47209&highlight=contour)

well maybe not direct bolt on, but fairly simple to do compared to other engine swaps.


It's not proven, according to that thread.

Someone looked into to it.

That doesn't mean anything. Looking at the motor and looking at the engine bay is no where near actually trying to put the dam thing in.

I say it is more difficult than stated in that thread. But I don't know either because I haven't done it.

[mp5jeff]

ya it just says a mechanic looked at his engine bay and thinks it would fit...

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

It's not proven, according to that thread.

Someone looked into to it.

That doesn't mean anything. Looking at the motor and looking at the engine bay is no where near actually trying to put the dam thing in.

I say it is more difficult than stated in that thread. But I don't know either because I haven't done it.


someone buy me a dx pro and i'll do it.

[StuttersC]

I forgot to mention, the ad, is just some dumb dealer that didn't pop the hood and listened to some clown say, "I think those have a V-6 in them..."

[hi-perf]

right but i had read somewhere else that the v6 would work too...im not going to quote anyone but i think turbo matty p had something to say about it.

anyway i think the wiring harness etc and driveline etc would be too cost prohibitive unless youre going all-out drag, it wouldnt be something i would do, but i just heard it will fit.

[MP5 Tuner]

If I had a nickel for everytime the dealers screwed up a classified ad, I would be rich by now.

[charles]

Yeah, they always say power seats on ebay, too.

[Turbo Matty P]

wow, I'd love to see the person who made 2 motor mounts for a Contour SVT engine and was able to use it in the Protege.

The 2.5L in the Contour SVT is the same block as the Ford 3.0L Duratec. The engine was de-stroked to run higher rpm's. I had a hotrod shop look into mounting my SHO 3.0L into my MSP when the motor popped and after a week and a half of measuerments and theorys the conclusion is this:

the engine BLOCK is 3-4" longer on the 2.5L-3.0L ford motor. You will have too much interference with the pulley systems rubbing the fenderwell. This can be solved by removing all mounts and shortening the drivers side axle by 4-5"'s. However a new problem occurs in that you have once real long axle and one real short axle. Also the weight of the duratec motor is very heavy when compared to the FS-DE motor. Weight transfer also becomes a problem. The handling is severly screwed up and the tranny is weak and will not hold 225hp/240lb/ft for very long....and that's just stock power levels for the SHO.

But yes, it will just bolt up to the tranny. The tranny in the Protege is the same that was used in the SHO.....that's why I've been through 3 of them.

[1sty]

wait, justin, you mean there is more proteges than just the mazdaspeed???? :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
(rofl)

Give the man a break, he may have simply thought the MSP and MP3 were basicly the same. The MSP is a the MP3s predocessor after all.

[fkmp5]

type-o

i'd hold the dealership to it...just go in there and in a nice southern voice say:
"well god damn, you said it had a V6...you best be puttin that shit in 'der"

"or at least come off that price about 3 grand...that's what the V6'll cost me."
i'm sure somewhere on that page or in the book there is a disclaimer stating they are not responsible for type-o's, blah blah blah.. covering their ass. or if not they'd just tell you: "we had that car and already sold it, but here is another MP3 that's a 4-cylinder if you're interested... let's talk numbers" :D

[misbehave]

i'm sure somewhere on that page or in the book there is a disclaimer stating they are not responsible for type-o's, blah blah blah.. covering their ass. or if not they'd just tell you: "we had that car and already sold it, but here is another MP3 that's a 4-cylinder if you're interested... let's talk numbers" :D

LOL!

[sonik]

http://users.pullman.com/winglo/v6mp3.jpg

I found this on a Seattle Auto Mart mag.

Is that for real? Possible? (boom04)
HEY! That car is the one I test drove.....only now it is on a lot that the owner of the mitsubishi dealer owns that he offs all his used cars to. They have it on the lot for 10,800.......
oh yeah...it for sure does not have a v6 :)

[Jeph]

wow, I'd love to see the person who made 2 motor mounts for a Contour SVT engine and was able to use it in the Protege.

The 2.5L in the Contour SVT is the same block as the Ford 3.0L Duratec. The engine was de-stroked to run higher rpm's. I had a hotrod shop look into mounting my SHO 3.0L into my MSP when the motor popped and after a week and a half of measuerments and theorys the conclusion is this:

the engine BLOCK is 3-4" longer on the 2.5L-3.0L ford motor. You will have too much interference with the pulley systems rubbing the fenderwell. This can be solved by removing all mounts and shortening the drivers side axle by 4-5"'s. However a new problem occurs in that you have once real long axle and one real short axle. Also the weight of the duratec motor is very heavy when compared to the FS-DE motor. Weight transfer also becomes a problem. The handling is severly screwed up and the tranny is weak and will not hold 225hp/240lb/ft for very long....and that's just stock power levels for the SHO.

But yes, it will just bolt up to the tranny. The tranny in the Protege is the same that was used in the SHO.....that's why I've been through 3 of them.Ok maybe this is a moron question, and i'm ready to get flamed for it, but if the SHO engine bolts up to our tranny, why cant a SHO tranny bolt to our engine?

EDIT: AND what year SHO are you talking about. My friends SHO is a cable shifter, and the protege is rod right?

[SP33D]

I hate ads like that.. I always used to see ads for v6 gen2 eclipses

[misbehave]

HEY! That car is the one I test drove.....only now it is on a lot that the owner of the mitsubishi dealer owns that he offs all his used cars to. They have it on the lot for 10,800.......
oh yeah...it for sure does not have a v6 :)
Ha! How did you find out that is was the one you test drove?
I am just so curious.

[Turbo Matty P]

The trannys are interchangeable. My SHO is a 1990. In 91 or 92 they made the rodshifter factory. I had mine converted. It made it easier to slam the gears, but no performance gain, just durability.

The SHO tranny WILL bolt up to the FS-DE motor. The tranny used in the SHO is the same that was used inthe Probe and 626 etc....The problem isn't bolt patterns, it'sspacwe between fenders and transmission driveshaft length.

[MrMp3]

hahahhaha V6 and ABS ya right

[Turbo Matty P]

the MP3 has ABS doesn't it?? I can't imagine ANY new car not having ABS....also Mazda uses their own braking system called EBD....it's included with ABS

[StuttersC]

the MP3 has ABS doesn't it?? I can't imagine ANY new car not having ABS....also Mazda uses their own braking system called EBD....it's included with ABS
No, the MP3 does NOT have ABS...Never has, never will.

[Turbo Matty P]

wow!! what was it's 60-0 stopping distance?? I know the P5 can haul it down pretty damn quick. I wonder what their logic was with leaving it out??

[1sty]

No, the MP3 does NOT have ABS...Never has, never will.
Yep and the only protege that has it standard was the MSP. Its a rare option for the rest.

[Turbo Matty P]

wow really.....I guess I just expect more out of a car than most. I won't buy a car without ABS....it also doesn't snow here. Any performance car I own will have ABS. I'm not niave enough to think I can stop better than a computer designed to do nothing but stop. also, the mazda EBD is supposed to be a very neat bit of braking engineering. I hope Ford will steal it and improve their line.

[Kooldino]

Care to explain EBD?

[Turbo Matty P]

Electronic Brake re-Distribution....it has something to do with energy lost through braking being redistributed back into the system in some manner. I'm not sure if this helps with acceleration after braking or with brake longevity. All I know is that my P5 and MSP would bug my eyes out if I hit the brakes hard enough.

[sonik]

Ha! How did you find out that is was the one you test drove?
I am just so curious.
Because the day I test drove it they told me they had just got it in from that lot. Also I know the lot where it is now takes used cars from the mitsu dealership that the ad is from.

[StuttersC]

wow really.....I guess I just expect more out of a car than most. I won't buy a car without ABS....it also doesn't snow here. Any performance car I own will have ABS. I'm not niave enough to think I can stop better than a computer designed to do nothing but stop. also, the mazda EBD is supposed to be a very neat bit of braking engineering. I hope Ford will steal it and improve their line.
I'm sorry you don't have enough confidence in your braking ability to out brake ABS.

It's not that hard actually and I prefer to run with out ABS. I drive my car and cars with ABS on a daily basis. My car brakes better without.

[Turbo Matty P]

I'm sure there are people out there who can stop better without ABS than with....my only comment is that I bet if we were actually doing it in a controlled testing environment you'd be surprised about your actual braking distance.

[StuttersC]

I'm sure there are people out there who can stop better without ABS than with....my only comment is that I bet if we were actually doing it in a controlled testing environment you'd be surprised about your actual braking distance.
And so would you...

I've been to a few driving courses covering performance driving. We did full out braking tests. ABS is crap in just about every car...

[Turbo Matty P]

I'd like to see a head-to-head comparison.

just FYI, get the new SCC. They do a write-up on the new SE-R Spec V Nismo R and S tunes...

The best stopping unit was the S-tune with ABS. the other without abs was sluggish.

[StuttersC]

I'd like to see a head-to-head comparison.

just FYI, get the new SCC. They do a write-up on the new SE-R Spec V Nismo R and S tunes...

The best stopping unit was the S-tune with ABS. the other without abs was sluggish.
The question is, was ABS even a factor? Most drivers can out brake ABS, depending on how obtrusive the ABS system is. That is fact.

[Turbo Matty P]

well I consider SCC editors as "capable drivers". If they can stop an ABS car faster than a non-abs car then I'd tend to believe that abs stops better....I know though that REAL race car drivers don't use abs, but the stopping distance on these STREET cars was like 10-12 shorter WITH abs than without.

[stdntDrvr]

you literally have to push the brake to the floor to get full advantage of abs...how many people really do that? usually, it's only done in a panic situation...therefore...most people (with a manual transmission) will downshift and apply brake pressure...so, they really wouldn't need abs. i didn't get it because i really don't see a need. will i ever depress the brake hard enough to actually make abs worth while? probably not. not to knock women, but they're usually the people to slam on their brakes hard enough to actually need it. just my opinion.