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DirtySid
02-09-2004, 06:56 PM
I want to instal a aftermarket cold air intake on my MP3. I am just wondering if there are any major concerns I will need to take into account, such as the ECU or oxygen sensor getting messed up by the new intake. Anyone has any pratical advice on this matter?

Don't let your meat loaf!
Sid (piss)

mp3moose
02-10-2004, 01:32 AM
Nothing really special to watch for. Just make sure you connect and tighten everything without breaking the throttle body or something. Pretty standard mod to do.
moose

digitalricepape
02-10-2004, 01:52 AM
nothing should go wrong. just make sure you install the o2 sensor, etc and youll be okay.

Bijou-MP5
02-10-2004, 02:08 AM
when you install SRI or CAI, disconnect battery first :)

Pants McGregor
02-12-2004, 07:45 PM
when you install SRI or CAI, disconnect battery first :)

How come ?

Captain KRM P5
02-12-2004, 08:12 PM
there is two pronged valve towards the back by the intake manifold you have to remove a hose from i recall - easy to break and it will cost you $75 to fix it :(

which intake did you buy?

TXMazdaSpeeder
02-13-2004, 02:25 PM
nothing should go wrong. just make sure you install the o2 sensor, etc and youll be okay.


doesnt the o2 sensor go in the header/exhaust manifold?

DirtySid
02-13-2004, 03:30 PM
there is two pronged valve towards the back by the intake manifold you have to remove a hose from i recall - easy to break and it will cost you $75 to fix it :(

which intake did you buy?
I have't purchased it yet ( as I just dropped major bread on new motegi DP5s and Kuhmo tires... (boom04) ) I was thinking about getting the AEM short stack intake....or the Ingen ceraminc coated intake. Not sure which one, if any1 has any suggestions I would like to hear them!

tiwing
02-13-2004, 03:44 PM
How come ?

Disconnecting the battery during install is long enough to reset the ECU for the increased airflow. It learns faster than if you leave it connected.

Dirty Sid: check out http://www.essentialspeed.com . NICE stuff. :)

Captain KRM P5
02-13-2004, 03:46 PM
I sell the AEM, the K&N, the Injen and the Ractive. All of my prices include shipping.

http://www.mazda3online.com/index.php?cPath=27_33

For the price, the Ractive simply can't be beat. Honestly, the gains between it and the AEM are going to be similar if not identical as they are both SRIs.

DirtySid
02-13-2004, 06:13 PM
I sell the AEM, the K&N, the Injen and the Ractive. All of my prices include shipping.

http://www.mazda3online.com/index.php?cPath=27_33

For the price, the Ractive simply can't be beat. Honestly, the gains between it and the AEM are going to be similar if not identical as they are both SRIs.
So, for my bread, I can't go wrong with the Ractive intake? What is the Ractive boasting on HP increase? Why is the AEM so much more expensive, is it just simply because of the brandname? Sounds good to me, just wanted a few more details

Captain KRM P5
02-13-2004, 07:03 PM
So, for my bread, I can't go wrong with the Ractive intake? What is the Ractive boasting on HP increase? Why is the AEM so much more expensive, is it just simply because of the brandname? Sounds good to me, just wanted a few more details

neither AEM or ractive show dyno charts on thier website. Injen boasts that 15 whp is gained from thier intake but having owned one myself I can tell you that there is no way I got anything near that. Anything less restrictive than the stock airbox will net you some gains - and of course give your engine that growl :)

i would personally say, yes, the price is due to brand name.

a dyno done on an automatic p5 on this site with the AWR header and short ram style intake gained about 20 whp, i think most of that came from the AWR header.

Bijou-MP5
02-13-2004, 07:26 PM
like captain said, AEM is more expensive due to brand name.
You can't go wrong with ractive, they are very similar products, but just having intake won't gain that much power. you will gain awesome engine sounds though. :)
both AEM, Injen, and Ractive will have very similar power gains.
but if you want to have some looks under your hood, go with Injen.

TXMazdaSpeeder
02-13-2004, 08:19 PM
actually the aem website does show a dyno chart., if ur in oklahoma or close to dallas i'll sell u my red aem intake.

Captain KRM P5
02-13-2004, 10:39 PM
actually the aem website does show a dyno chart., if ur in oklahoma or close to dallas i'll sell u my red aem intake.


can you show me the link? i went specifically to that part on AEM's site and couldn't find the dyno link.

shinzen
02-13-2004, 10:44 PM
I can vouch for the knockoffs such as ractive- they do just fine- but you will want to replace that filter that they come with at some point. I have been using one off of ebay for awhile now, and the ractive and mine are pretty much so the same.

sidpro5
02-13-2004, 11:11 PM
When removing the factory air "hose" immediately off the throttle body, be VERY careful with the Purge Control Valve. This part breaks VERY easily (Shit! What was that "crack"?) The best way to loosen the nut on the back of it is to place an open-end or adjustable wrench over the metal "casing" and use this to hold it in place while you break loose the nut. Of course, in my haste I neglected to do this. I'm waiting for the new one to come in.
Anyhow, if you have the cash and want the eye candy, go with Injen. Otherwise, any SRI will do the trick. Good luck.

Captain KRM P5
02-14-2004, 12:21 AM
When removing the factory air "hose" immediately off the throttle body, be VERY careful with the Purge Control Valve. This part breaks VERY easily

yep. thats exactly what i broke :(

DirtySid
02-14-2004, 12:58 AM
actually the aem website does show a dyno chart., if ur in oklahoma or close to dallas i'll sell u my red aem intake.
So my next question is this: Do i get the Superflow intake by ractive?....will that intake give me the performance I am looking for?...excluding the header, which is on order right now. And by the way, thanks for every1s' advice, it is all welcome and needed!!!!!!!

Captain KRM P5
02-14-2004, 01:06 AM
So my next question is this: Do i get the Superflow intake by ractive?....will that intake give me the performance I am looking for?...excluding the header, which is on order right now. And by the way, thanks for every1s' advice, it is all welcome and needed!!!!!!!

The Ractive superflow (the only intake Ractive sells for the Protege BTW) will give the same gains as the AEM sri.

sidpro5
02-14-2004, 08:02 AM
yep. thats exactly what i broke :(

Luckily, I only broke the outlet for the return hose to the manifold and I've been able to drive it for the last three weeks. The only noticeable problem is gas mileage is down a tiny bit and the damn whistling noise from the open vaccuum line! Also, if you have to go to the dealer for this part, it'll be anywhere from $75 to $90. I got mine online for $59 to my door.

redfyre
02-14-2004, 09:35 AM
neither AEM or ractive show dyno charts on thier website. Injen boasts that 15 whp is gained from thier intake but having owned one myself I can tell you that there is no way I got anything near that. Anything less restrictive than the stock airbox will net you some gains - and of course give your engine that growl :)

i would personally say, yes, the price is due to brand name.

a dyno done on an automatic p5 on this site with the AWR header and short ram style intake gained about 20 whp, i think most of that came from the AWR header.

I doubt you will see 20 whp on a P5 unless it was turbo and making 200+ hp to begin with. With a header and intake you might see 8-10. With an intake alone you will likely see just 2-4 hp. But it will sound cool as sh*t!

Captain KRM P5
02-14-2004, 01:41 PM
I doubt you will see 20 whp on a P5 unless it was turbo and making 200+ hp to begin with. With a header and intake you might see 8-10. With an intake alone you will likely see just 2-4 hp. But it will sound cool as sh*t!

I agree, having a P5 with a turbo myself :)

which is why in that quote I said: a dyno done on an automatic p5 on this site with the AWR header and short ram style intake gained about 20 whp, i think most of that came from the AWR header.

Jay
02-14-2004, 02:45 PM
here's the link
http://aempower.com/pdf/dyno/22-481%20Mazda%20Protege%202L%20SRS.pdf

Captain KRM P5
02-14-2004, 03:01 PM
here's the link
http://aempower.com/pdf/dyno/22-481%20Mazda%20Protege%202L%20SRS.pdf

many thanks

TXMazdaSpeeder
02-14-2004, 03:55 PM
many thanks


well find out how true that is in a couple of weeks when i dyno mine.

Captain KRM P5
02-14-2004, 04:22 PM
well find out how true that is in a couple of weeks when i dyno mine.

hopefully more true than Injen's 11-15 whp claim :)

TXMazdaSpeeder
02-14-2004, 06:35 PM
its ok i got something going in it by the end of the year that i wont need the aem (laugh) (evil) (thought)

Tanginamo425
02-14-2004, 10:48 PM
one more thing, you could always get the EBAY cai, no real difference at all. what really counts is the filter. What you really are paying for is the name and the filter. The tubing is pretty easy to manufacture with all the right parts. Many of the people who have bought the ebay cai are very happy people. Looks exactly like the INJEN - the INJEN sticker. Other than that, it mounts the same way, the piping is the same length, same diameter and same bends. But its up to you what you want to do. Ebay CAI - $50 then add a good filter to it, example: K&N - $40 at the most, and then total, about $90. Rather than the Injen is over 200. If you want looks go for the injen, if you just simply don't care go for the EBAY Cai....

MrE007
11-02-2004, 04:12 PM
I broke that too!
I put the drill on max torque...
Cheap piece of plastic crap.
Can it be harmful to the car?

yep. thats exactly what i broke :(