Axel Problems

[gcotton]

On the way to work today, I was in 2nd gear at about 4500 rpm and bam . The noise was nasty. All of a suddenthe car would not move anymore. I thought for sure it was the clutch. Wrong. I got towed to the local shop and it turns out the axel snapped.WTF? Ive heard people on hear with clutch problems but axels.

Do you think mazda will replace it or is this something Im gonna have to pay for?
Are these the same axels as the regular protege?
And do they make stronger ones?
PLEASE HELP

[Matthew]

i think they are stronger supposedly...what the hell do you have done to your car that you had enough power to snap the axle? when you describe your situation were you gunning it, driving normal, etc?

[03MSP]

Wow, it takes quite a bit to snap an axle.

The MSP ones are 2mm thicker I believe than the regular Protege axles.

Should be fixed under warranty.

Good Luck

[gcotton]

I wouldnt say gunning it but spirited driving yes. I took off in 1st gear shifted at about 4500 the same in second. But thats when it happened in second gear. I dont think there any stronger, its just a protege with a turbo right

[Matthew]

no they are supposed to be stronger...what do you have done to your car

[gcotton]

just the basics. fmic, sri, exhaust,mbc. NOw its at a local shop should I have it towed to Mazda

[03MSP]

oh boy, I wish you luck trying to get it fixed under warranty with those mods, but it shouldn't cost a whole lot, not like you blew your engine.

[hukster00]

any one know if the stronger axels made for p5 fit msp ?

[gcotton]

like what are we talking here 2 or 3 hundred or a 1k. whats your definition of not a whole lot

[jred321]

should be a few hundred at most, i doubt any dealership would cover it for you

[t3ase]

Built axles are $599/set but they hold 400HP. Check with your dealership first.

http://www.driveshaftshop.com/item436249.ctlg

[hukster00]

Built axles are $599/set but they hold 400HP. Check with your dealership first.

http://www.driveshaftshop.com/item436249.ctlg

yes but will they fit msp ?

[t3ase]

No. I had to use a Protege sedan axle for about a week as they ordered the correct MSP axle. They will fit but you'll throw a code. They're a bit larger, as mentioned.

I just brought up that site to give you an idea of what you're looking at. You may want to contact that company and see if you can get a MSP one made, however.

[Emode]

yes there was a company that was making stonger axles a couple months back
mp5jeff was involved with it
thread (http://www.msprotege.com/vbb230/showthread.php?t=44155&highlight=beefy+axles)
pic comparison (http://http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb230/_handler.php/mp5jeff/digital%20camera%20pics%20068.jpg)

oops just saw the last posts about how it might not fit (chair)

[t3ase]

Yeah, that's the same company. It wouldn't hurt to try and seeif they had them though.

[hukster00]

http://www.driveshaftshop.com/madza.ivnu

it lists msp so i gess they make them :D

[gcotton]

do you guys think its worth it to upgrade. I mean Im done with my car now.

[t3ase]

What do you mean you're "done" with the car?

[hukster00]

i think he means hes done with the moding

[freekwonder]

i wonder why you threw a code with the standard protege axle in. i thought they had the same spline so they should fit. wasnt the only different between the standard and the msp axles is that the msp were a "little" thicker (22mm to 24mm) so if you had different sized axles (msp one side and standard the other side)i could see it. but if you are running same sized axles you should be fine right?

[hukster00]

why would you get code from an axle any whay ?

[t3ase]

Let me talk to the tech whenever Mazda lets me know my transmission is done. He worked on the car before and is the one who told me the differences.

A code was thrown, though. Either that or the ABS light.. It was one of those.

[gcotton]

when I mean done with the car I mean done. I really just want to get the a/f under control and call it a day. This car has cost me so much money, and getting ready to just say forget it and get a srt-4(no flames please). My last and final mod is a haltech which Ill probly get in the next couple of weeks. As far as the axel goes he couldnt get a price for me today but he did find one from a MP3 for 100bucks. The clutch needs to be replaced to because the pressure plate is in pieces. So needless to say my MSP will be down for a week.

[mp5jeff]

if you never want to break axles again, then yes its worth the upgrade. Also if you plan on running slicks or d/r's on your current setup, that constitutes a even bigger risk of snapping the msp axles. The axles that i bought, i cannot see them breaking unless you are running a rediculous amount of power + slicks, rediculous amount of power meaning 450+whp.

[servoeyes]

Man...I had trouble with Axel, too...he just quit the band and took the name. Then he got fat and replaced us all with a bunch of musical freaks/geniuses. But he looked really dumb in those braids...stole Alicia Keys' hair for the night. What a loser...Right Scott Weiland?
~Slash

As for axle troubles...nothing on my end yet...but I couldn't resist the spelling typo. :) Good info on replacements in this thread, though.