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2Loww
02-02-2004, 12:49 AM
Hello guys.

As of now, here is a listing of the next group that will be receiving their orders:

11. Julio Alvarado

12. Adam Haley

13. Alden Au

14. Brian Batres

15. Charles Baynes

16. David Czarnecki

17. Mathieu Villeneuve

18. David McNicoll

19.Jose Wence

20. Rodnar Sumala

If you have paid in full and are not on the list or are no longer wishing to be apart of this deal, please just simply email me at Jamie@2Loww.com.

Because of the few cancellations, I still would like to fill the last 5 spots so if you would like to jump aboard please just email me at Jamie@2Loww.com.

As we sit right now, I will be able to get the last group of 10 shipped out earlier than I had initially expected. However, please be aware that each combo will NOT be rushed and I still will be checking each combo for quality and fittment prior to shipping. You will also receive a few pictures of me personally fitting your kit just prior to shipping (I'll make sure to brush my hair and tuck my shirt in for you all!! LOL).

Again, any further questions about cancelling your orders please email me at Jamie@2Loww.com so this thread can go back to its normal use!

And thanks again to you all, I am most certain you will not be disappointed in your next orders!

Sincerely,

Jamie Campbell

JOS3
02-02-2004, 12:54 AM
i have sent you 2 emails (yesterday and today) in regards to my cancellation. when you receive my email, please confirm that you have read it and approximately when i can be expecting my refund. thanks

-Jose

RODSCALIP5
02-02-2004, 12:55 AM
I suggest all you people who are still planning on getting this guys product get your monay back before it is too late. This guy is trying to rip you off IMO. All his responses look alike. You shouldn't have to pay him until he has the actual product. Please 2loww for your sake come clean :D. If you didn't have enough lip and grills in the first place you should have said something.


Sorry 2Loww, but I would like to warn the other members before they buy from you or if they have already bought from you. Unfortunately, there is no way we can stop your threads or make you become and AV. BTW when you do a group buy you have to make sure how much of whatever you are selling you have in stock, that way you dont sell too much of what you don't have :D . And please explain if you knew you didn't have enough, why did you also sell on Ebay at the same time???

2Loww
02-02-2004, 12:56 AM
hello protejay,

did you not receive an email from me today. please let me know and if not i will send it out to you right away. i will delete my post here in a minute and please do the same.

i want a thread to be open for those people still awaiting there orders.

thanks again,

jamie campbell

mypfizzle
02-02-2004, 12:57 AM
steve.. dont waste your time.. people will just turn on you like they did on me..

alexlitov
02-02-2004, 12:58 AM
people will never learn....

let them be scammed

alexlitov
02-02-2004, 12:59 AM
protejay5,

were you the one bashing me not so long ago and defending 2loww how he already proved that he is worthy business man???

RODSCALIP5
02-02-2004, 01:00 AM
I know :( , Now I know how the President feels when he tries to help other countries out :D

2Loww
02-02-2004, 01:00 AM
ok guys,

the bashing will never end on here so i have officially given up hope. this is a real mob-like forum and as a single person I dont stand a chance. And if I dont keep answering the same questions i keep answering all night long, then they start bashing me for not being awake or on here the minute they post a question. its a lose lose situation for me.

for those of you that are still awaiting your orders please just email me with any questions you may have. You have my word that you will receive your orders and I will continue to contact you via email on the progress of your orders. Again, my email is Jamie@2Loww.com

Thanks again, and sorry this had to end so ugly.

And again, my apologies matthew, I did give it my best.

Sincerely, for the final time,

Jamie Campbell
www.2Loww.com Owner

RODSCALIP5
02-02-2004, 01:01 AM
No, 2Loww I am sorry. Please stay and answer these buyers questions. This will be my last time posting on any one of your threads.

ghost
02-02-2004, 01:06 AM
Originally posted by 2Loww
ok guys,

the bashing will never end on here so i have officially given up hope. this is a real mob-like forum and as a single person I dont stand a chance. And if I dont keep answering the same questions i keep answering all night long, then they start bashing me for not being awake or on here the minute they post a question. its a lose lose situation for me.

for those of you that are still awaiting your orders please just email me with any questions you may have. You have my word that you will receive your orders and I will continue to contact you via email on the progress of your orders. Again, my email is Jamie@2Loww.com

Thanks again, and sorry this had to end so ugly.

And again, my apologies matthew, I did give it my best.

Sincerely, for the final time,

Jamie Campbell


www.2Loww.com Owner

Take care of your screwed up buisness in this board on your other threads. YOU ARE NOT A AV!!! Refund the peoples payment, finish your BS group buy, and leave. You have cause enough suffering within this forum. Cant you see? Stop trying to make a fast buck!!

DG Motorsports
02-02-2004, 01:24 AM
Jamies e-mail to me: I hope you don't mind Jamie..... I believe this should be public....

Hello,
You do have to understand that I sell 40+ bodykits a week and ship to all over the world. I did not have the chance to personally prefit and give a one hour look over on each of these orders. But I have received 4 or 5 emails from this forum alone saying that their products were great fitting. As a person who knows fiberglass, I think you will agree that even the best fiberglass construction will need some sanding or small alterations to create a perfect fit. i guess these people were all expecting bolt on products and that is not what they received. The bottom line is I spent over 100 hours between the construction of the product and email and forum time on these people. I really did give it my best but apparently I have lost. This was only my 3rd group buy I did and although the other two took a lot longer, they finished with everyone being happy.

I am just a young guy myself with a company that is just in its 4th year of business. I have lots to learn yet and I will have many more ups and downs in my lifetime. But after the terrible experience I have had here, I will most definately not be doing any futher group buys. It really is very tricky at best and too much can go wrong too quickly.

Anyways, thanks for listening and I am now actually leaving this board for good. If you talk to the others you can tell them that those wanting refunds will get their money back and those still waiting on their products will receive great products yet as well.

And as for you and your company, I do wish you all the best and perhaps our two lifelines will cross again in the future.

Sincerely,

Jamie Campbell
2Loww Distributing



My PM reply to him
Jamie,
Please understand what these guys have been through...... Trust me I had to learn the hard way also, I was thrashed before I was accepted in this board but you have to prove yourself to these guys and gain your trust.... Although it may be hard at first believe me when I say it's worth it..... This is not just a job for me do you really think I'm getting paid to sit here on the internet during the weekend? *Nope* To me these guys are more then just customers you build relationships here... And I've come to look out for others, if I see a need too..... I know these guys can be harsh sometimes, but all I ask is that you come through for them, send them good product or a refund once that has been done... (All will be forgotten), I know you may not forget what you had to go through as I will never forget *cough, cough MATTHEW* lol....... But Matt and I are on good terms now as I know it will not be hard for you to get back on good terms with those that have doubted you......

From a business to a business:
Jamie Please do not leave this forum if you are legit, as I'm sure they will all love your great deals and customer service....(things will get better)

But I will still advise members to hold off on payments to you until this has been resolved...........

Thank you,
Amie Robbins
DG Motorsports Inc.

alexlitov
02-02-2004, 01:36 AM
Members of this GB,

please understand that others and I who bash/critisize 2loww don't mean any harm to any of the members on here. It's a responsobility of a good admin(s) and mod(s) to protect members of their site to make sure that they will come back in the future.

Admin(s) have provided "0" support on this issue. IT's because of other crooks that have been on this site and got away with everything, people should be more protected of their hard erned money.

There are still 10+ people who are waiting on their lips, and nobody wants them and those who already received their combos to be screwed over or taken advantage off.

2loww has never been straight forward in his replies/answers.

Here are some of the examples that I recall of the top of my head:
1. PayPal refunds - not a possible thing/never has done before
2. Lips are made locally in Canada - why have made in China stamp on them?
3. Stolen pictures, never took pictures of his original product
4. Test fit new stuff - he doesn't even have a protege and I doubt that he has someone locally who wants to put a million scratches on his.

Sincerely,

Alex

I wish that everybody a smooth transaction that will benefit both the seller and the buyer.

RODSCALIP5
02-02-2004, 01:37 AM
Great now this guy is known worldwide :rolleyes: . I hope he doesn't leave to many people will lose money or as someone else suggested, the remaining people on the second GB list might be fake names.

Matthew
02-02-2004, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by DG Motorsports
I know you may not forget what you had to go through as I will never forget *cough, cough MATTHEW* lol....... But Matt and I are on good terms now as I know it will not be hard for you to get back on good terms with those have doubted you......


i cant wait to talk to you tommorrow amie. dont forget about me!

ghost
02-02-2004, 01:41 AM
You can serch for those name within the admincp of the board. Im sure if its done youll see that they are fake. Looks like this guys is a master con artist.

azian6er
02-02-2004, 01:54 AM
i would really apreciate it if all those bashing 2loww would stop for now. If you contue to bash him he wll leave the boards and we, the people asking for the refunds, will not be able to contact him and may lose our money. Please be responsible and delete your posts.

please dont pissoff jaime and jeopardize our possibilty of getting a refund. I for one cant afford to lose 275 bucks.

-B

Bijou-MP5
02-02-2004, 01:55 AM
If I was the owner of the 2loww, I will just give up and refund members money instead of keep saying
"for those of you that are still awaiting your orders please just email me with any questions you may have. You have my word that you will receive your orders and I will continue to contact you via email on the progress of your orders. Again, my email is Jamie@2Loww.com

email or the phone number doesn't do any shit, you can change them easily like skylab3.

BlueWolfCry
02-02-2004, 02:16 AM
I have a DREAM...that AV's and NON AV's...can sell legit products with great deals and customer service

mypfizzle
02-02-2004, 02:25 AM
im strictly dg /fiberimages /auto rnd boi....

azian6er
02-02-2004, 10:31 AM
so what is happening with our refund. I want to know.

-B

Hollywood2009
02-02-2004, 10:45 AM
so what is happening with our refund. I want to know.

-B

Yeah same thing he said!

Gratefully Dead
02-02-2004, 11:45 AM
Paypal complaints take up to 30 days to be processed. Not overnight on a sunday night. Have at least SOME patience!

mikeeeee
02-03-2004, 05:41 PM
any updates?

pdhaudio83
02-03-2004, 05:42 PM
2loww hasnt posted since 2-2 at 12am.

JOS3
02-04-2004, 03:10 AM
YAY! i just checked my mail and my refund is pending, all $275 of it.

jamie left a message saying something like, "thank you for being patient. i hope to be able to serve you in the future." YAY!

CTpro5
02-04-2004, 11:36 AM
YAY! i just checked my mail and my refund is pending, all $275 of it.

jamie left a message saying something like, "thank you for being patient. i hope to be able to serve you in the future." YAY!

Same here!!

Matthew
02-04-2004, 01:46 PM
must be nice. you got an email saying you were getting the refund? i dont understand? did you get your product or you cancelled before it shipped?

JOS3
02-04-2004, 01:59 PM
i cancelled before it shipped. after i saw what happened to you guys, i wasnt taking any chances. plus i read the rules for paypal before i bought it and i knew if it got here fucked up, i was going to be SOL

JOS3
02-04-2004, 02:00 PM
matthew,
i thought he was still going to give you a refund

Matthew
02-04-2004, 02:09 PM
yea, well see...

ghost
02-05-2004, 07:45 AM
This thread will now be closed. If you want to post your feelings, or you need to make a comment about this unauthorized vendor, do it on the Vendor rating thread.