ATTN AWR header owners

[zmepro]

Is the AWR header worth the money, im thinking the ractive one is getting lame but i can't deicde if its worth the 500+ for a awr.... anyone have any dyno sheets or any reviews of it? is there a power difference? does it help? is it worth it, tell me watcha got!

also, if anyone is interested in selling ....?:D

[AlbinoMuntjac]

Do a search for the dyno results. I know they've been posted here by the guy that bought my AWR from me. I believe it was 12 hp and I don't remember the torque. Def. worth the money in my opinion.

[blackpro5]

had mine since may, it is the best mod other than a turbo for our car, but just get the mil eliminator, because you will get a cel after 50-75 miles

[Installshield 2]

I don't own one, but I have been following it since it was originally introduced...I have never seen anything (header wise) even comparable for proteges yet...The quality is pretty much as good as it gets strength wise...Some guys complain that it isn't "mirrored", but this should not be an aesthetic mod IMO in the first place....

It is on the top of my "to do" list...

[mp3moose]

Get it.
moose

[zmepro]

haha, only one catch. this thing called money, something i lack

[mp3moose]

Well, I wanted to get the best product out there for NA and I think this is it. Those threads about the RM header being a POS just isn't reassuring. Get something that will last, so save up. Good luck whatever you should choose.
moose

[viVid]

Everything I have ever read says it is definitely worth the money - I just ordered one. My suggestion: If you don't have the money, save for it! Don't waste your money on the ractive if you are not sure you will be happy with it... cuz if you're not, you'll be buying the AWR anyway!

BlackPro5: Where did you get your mil eliminator?

[sidpro5]

Just curious-how much louder will this header make the car/exhaust? definately considering it, but don't want to be too much louder than it is with the RB c-b/CAI..........

[zmepro]

if ur interested go look at the gb :D

[AlbinoMuntjac]

Originally posted by sidpro5
Just curious-how much louder will this header make the car/exhaust? definately considering it, but don't want to be too much louder than it is with the RB c-b/CAI..........
I def. makes the car louder. If I'm not mistaken, isn't the RB one of the quieter systems out there?? If that's why you bought that catback, you may not enjoy the additional noise of the header. I had the JIC with the header and it was significantly louder. It wasn't bad around town, but it droned like hell on the highway. I needed to put the silencer in if I was going to be on the highway longer than like half an hour because it got obnoxious. If you enjoy the quiet catback, it may not be the choice for you.

[blackpro5]

i got the mil eliminator from pony express.com they have the wire diagram for our cars really easy to install and i must second AlbinoMuntjac i have the awr header and the jic catback and it is loud on the freeway but performance wise it is a sound option their are no real negatives about it, install is interesting but anyone can do it just take your time and it will not mess up your car, and i live in houston so don't worry about heat i have been with them on days up to 102 degrees with 95% humidity, as for quality they are top notch just save up you will not be disappointed

[akhilleus]

AWR makes stainless and mild steel. The mild steel is $375. Also u might want to have them jet-coated. But especially so if u decide on the RM or OBX headers instead.

[twilightprotege]

akhilleus, the mild steel isnt made anymore (tony @ awr told me)

[akhilleus]

that sux

[twilightprotege]

yep....esp considering i am going to coat my header

[VividMP5]

Originally posted by sidpro5
Just curious-how much louder will this header make the car/exhaust? definately considering it, but don't want to be too much louder than it is with the RB c-b/CAI..........

I'm currently running the RM headers and it get rid of both CATS with RB exhaust and CAI, and it's not much of a difference than before, just a tad louder, if I'm not wrong, the AWR gets rid of only one CAT. I don't think it's going to be much louder than what you have now if you're running a CAI and RB CB. So get it, and enjoy the power!! :)

[fkmp5]

AWR Link (http://www.awrracing.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=12_2_22&products_id=18)

Is this the header you guys are talking about? It says that it eliminates the stock converter. Does that mean both the pre-cat and the cat will be eliminated? Is anyone running that setup in a state with emissions testing?

I am in Maryland and we have emissions testing every 2 years. I would love to get an aftermarket 4-2-1 header, however, I'm worried about failing emissions tests.

[zmepro]

yea thats the header, it eliminataes one of the 2 stock catalytic converters

[Mike R]

Originally posted by fkmp5
AWR Link (http://www.awrracing.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=12_2_22&products_id=18)

Is this the header you guys are talking about? It says that it eliminates the stock converter. Does that mean both the pre-cat and the cat will be eliminated? Is anyone running that setup in a state with emissions testing?

I am in Maryland and we have emissions testing every 2 years. I would love to get an aftermarket 4-2-1 header, however, I'm worried about failing emissions tests.

Don't worry Frank, the testing here is a joke. I've gotten all kinds of illegally modified cars through with no problem. Even if you do fail the first time there are quite a few ways to get through before reinstalling the factory manifold/cat. :D

[fkmp5]

Originally posted by Mike R
Don't worry Frank, the testing here is a joke. I've gotten all kinds of illegally modified cars through with no problem. Even if you do fail the first time there are quite a few ways to get through before reinstalling the factory manifold/cat. :D

you make it sound so easy-- i'll start saving now :)

[Mike R]

Trust me, it IS easy.

[zmepro]

get into the group buy, get it for almost 100 less

[zmepro]

http://www.protege5.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48963

^ GB

[zmepro]

ok, last question

ARE THESE HEADERS WORTH THE MONEY?

[akhilleus]

I am planning on eventually having the header with either an 02 bung behind the 2nd cat or a hi-flow. This way i can pass in NJ where it is very strict and they use an OBDII reader on new cars. As long as your 2nd o2 sensor reads a good voltage then u r good. I doubt they would inspect underhood or anything. But since its every 2 years in MD , like here in NJ, you can chill for awhile

[twilightprotege]

ofcourse they are worth it. there is NO single mod you can do with a NA P5 that will give the same power increase for less than $500

[melicha8]

It's not fair to knock the RM header because of one guy. Plus done right these may be the best headers on the market. Here's mine. The coating reduces underhood temps a ton. I drove down to San Jose the other night and felt inside the hood and it was actually cool.
http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/melicha8/dscf0002.jpg

[twilightprotege]

the reason i say the AWR is the best is because it is 4-2-1. our engines do not rev high enough to get full advantage of a 4-1 design like honda's etc. also awr has the track record

[Replica]

$440 is an insane price for a header. $350 is even pushing it.

$440 means N2o in my book.

[Mike R]

$440 is an insane price for a header. $350 is even pushing it.

$440 means N2o in my book.

Well, there is basically NO aftermarket for these cars. This is THE BEST header you can get for these cars and the only one made specifically for the protege.

Aren't all the name brand honda headers the same price??

[Replica]

Well, there is basically NO aftermarket for these cars. This is THE BEST header you can get for these cars and the only one made specifically for the protege.

Aren't all the name brand honda headers the same price??
If you go out of your way to spend alot, sure.

There are quite a few for 250-350 range though. :)
DC-Sport, Kamakazi, Greddy...

[AlbinoMuntjac]

$440 is an insane price for a header. $350 is even pushing it.

$440 means N2o in my book.
And N2O in a P5 generally means youre goingto blow your motor. Concensus is that nitrous just won't work all that well with our computers.

[twilightprotege]

replica - that's what happens when hondas are as common as letter boxes....they make hundreds of headers at once and the cost is dramatically reduced...unfortunately we dont have tha luxury

[akhilleus]

isnt the AWR header temporarily discontinued/out of stock

[twilightprotege]

nope, awr is moving home....they are just busy moving

[sidpro5]

I'm currently running the RM headers and it get rid of both CATS with RB exhaust and CAI, and it's not much of a difference than before, just a tad louder, if I'm not wrong, the AWR gets rid of only one CAT. I don't think it's going to be much louder than what you have now if you're running a CAI and RB CB. So get it, and enjoy the power!! :)

Thanks for the input, but I'm now looking at the WagnerMotorsports shorty header/highflow downpipe/cat combo. This way I know I won't have to worry about inspection.