Given the recent Explosions in the community...

[Got_boost02]

who else is now just too uneasy about running increased boost w/o the luxury of forged internals and full computer controlling? i know i am am way too paranoid to be running 10+ anymore given the fact that there is a lot of engines goin up like popcorn! i figured, like most of you probably, that i would have some fun and crank the shit up untill i could afford to rebuild the engine and run a stand alone computer, ect. but fuck that man, just not worth it, i can barely afford this car as it is being in college, let alone a bill for over 5grand in damage. but, after i took the MBC off today, i realized that the car really isnt that bad w/o it. it feels better when you dont have to worry about looking up at your gauges. ah, maybe it just feels better since its cold. one thing ill always miss is 2nd gear and 10psi!!!!!!!!!! owell, someday, but for now, we're gonna play it wise;) just wanted to see if anyone eles was backing down.
alex

[rocketspeed]

I never modded mine. If I wanted a faster car, I would have bought an SRT-4. I like the MSP fine as I got it.

[mp5jeff]

good idea...

[BMC]

Yeah, I figured I'll just try to get every bolt-on possible, but keep the stock level. Not as easy or cheap as just raising the boost, but much safer.

[MSBlueP]

the only thing i will probably do to this car right now is a turbo catback exhaust w/ downpipe and a short ram intake.. if i could ever find one!! if not.. Injen cai will suffice.. hehe

[rocketspeed]

I might consider the AEM SRI hen it eventually comes out, assuming it has a decent heatshield. Exhaust is also possible. No boost raising, though.

[jersey_emt]

Yup...it's only airflow mods for me until my warranty expires...or if I finally get a new job and can afford to take the chance of voiding the warranty ;)

[Got_boost02]

thats what i figured:( gonna get some hard pipes fabricated here soon then the intake and exhaust, which should suffice for a while:)...evil grin

[MSBlueP]

hmm.. wouldn't mind doing hard pipes, new bov, fmic either.. just no boostin up.. :( yea yea.. iknow.. i'm a wuss. hehe

[lamp3]

I think we'll see a pretty satisfying bump in power form exhaust. ;)

[Got_boost02]

i would imagine a full turbo back would net somewhere around 15-25 whp increase? could be wrong though, i know i got some big numbers when i put full exhaust on my rx-7!

[03MSP]

I'm with all of you, I was going to get some gauges and up the boost to 8 or 9, but know I am going with a Injen CAI and sometime I will get an exhaust, and maybe some hardpipes...god damnit, I was so excited about upping the boost too.

[t3ase]

DONT BE SKURRED!^&@%

[instylz]

guys just get a dual stage boost controller. I have my second stage set at 9.5 and am running stock almost daily. I do like to spread her legs on occasion though...hehe

[mspdfreak]

Yeah, just exhaust and intake for me as well. You've got to remember, these cars are just a year old, and I haven't heard of anyone having more than 20k miles on their MSPs. Those who are upping there boost and having no problems now, may be singing a different tune in a year or two. That's not to mention the recent rash of engine meltdowns people have already experienced. That's just me, though.

[shaolin]

The FS-DE has been around for a looooong time. They have seen boost before, and it's just a matter of engine and fuel management. Not to mention internals, although some would argue against that. It's the shitty ECU's...mainly fuel maps that are holding us back. I'd be willing to bet that in a year, we will have more options available to us as far as engine and fuel management, and 12-15 pounds of boost will be easily attainable.

Just give it some time, but at the same time, we're going to need the brave few who will venture out there and try new things on these cars.

[bluemsp]

I'm with you guys. The only things that I have planned are all bolt on.

[MrRoseBlackMSP]

22k with a dual stage ebc set to 9psi high/stock low havent had any problems what so ever no "fuel cut" "spark cut" just nicely fashioned power had it like this since 2k

[Gbourdon]

I am running stock boos now but am thinking I may go with a dual stage ebc. That way I can get rid of the pillar and have a nice clean digital boost guage. I had my MBC in until I started hitting fuel cut at 9 psi. I figure it was cutting for a reasion so I took it out.

[gcotton]

Im personally going to continue to run 9psi. The car hasnt given me any trouble and I have no reason to think its going to blow. If it does its ok because I want to get internals anyway. Been running 9psi for about 1k now. Ill let you know how it holds up

[t3ase]

my dog's msp has been running above 10psi for around 30k miles now. but that's in texas, so we dont have as much of a temperature range to play in as a factor nor the elevation.

[yashooa]

Originally posted by mspdfreak
Yeah, just exhaust and intake for me as well. You've got to remember, these cars are just a year old, and I haven't heard of anyone having more than 20k miles on their MSPs. Those who are upping there boost and having no problems now, may be singing a different tune in a year or two. That's not to mention the recent rash of engine meltdowns people have already experienced. That's just me, though.

About to turn 30k and been at 12PSI just about the whole way.

[t3ase]

Originally posted by yashooa
About to turn 30k and been at 12PSI just about the whole way.
we've caught up with each other.. HRMMMM. *goes out to drive for a few hours*

[yashooa]

Originally posted by t3ase
my dog's msp has been running above 10psi for around 30k miles now. but that's in texas, so we dont have as much of a temperature range to play in as a factor nor the elevation.

Yeah what he said


"Yehaw Mother Fuckers Let's Rock!"
(rockon) (rockon)

Woof...Sparky say's "bOOST IT YOU wHORES"

[unwrittenLaw]

I've always been fairly cautious w/ upping the boost, never went over 10psi even pre-flash...but since i started to hear pinging at 8-9 psi...I've taken out the mbc. The car is still fun at 6-7 psi and it is better to push it w/o having to worry about not boosting too much...

I'm curious if I should get the stock plugs back in since i'm running stock boost. Or is it ok to leave the copper plugs in there? Are there any drawbacks w/ copper plugs vs the stock platinum plugs?

[t3ase]

you guys need to realize that a turbod engine is drastically affected by environmental variables such as the previously mentioned temperature range, elevation and a few others. you cannot just go outside and turn a dial up until you think about things.

"hey, its cold, i need to wear a jacket" -> turn the boost down.
"hey, im sweating like a mofo" -> turn it up carefully.
"hey, my car's full of crap and people" -> turn it back down.
"hey, i found 198octane fuel in a bottle at the car store!" -> shoot your dumb gullible self and never buy anything for your car again.

a good book to read is maximum boost by corkey bell. amazing info there, even for beginners.

[unwrittenLaw]

I have that book, but i'm still reading it...very good book

[t3ase]

I don't have it, I just go to Barnes & Noble every day to read it.. :D

[yashooa]

Originally posted by unwrittenLaw
I've always been fairly cautious w/ upping the boost, never went over 10psi even pre-flash...but since i started to hear pinging at 8-9 psi...I've taken out the mbc. The car is still fun at 6-7 psi and it is better to push it w/o having to worry about not boosting too much...

I'm curious if I should get the stock plugs back in since i'm running stock boost. Or is it ok to leave the copper plugs in there? Are there any drawbacks w/ copper plugs vs the stock platinum plugs?

Ya know I never even chagned my stock plugs out :eek:
I have never hit cut at 10PSI usually it comes on when the needle hits 12 PSI, it's under about 53 degrees and mostly in 4th,5th gear under part throttle on the highway when I go to pass someone and just want to midly accellerate past them.
When I have been on the road awhile the under hood temp seems to raise the air temperture up to a point that I dont hit it as much unless it gets drasticly colder out. I have never hit it above the lower 50's and really never in 1st or second even when
the needle goes to 12PSI. I normally drive very conservativly to save gas so cut/boost isn't a huge issue. Unlike Tease's Dog who is MAD SKILLZ Race Car DRIVA!

[unwrittenLaw]

you're running 12psi w/ the stock plugs and you still dont get any ping or knock?

[TitanB]

Whats the difference in this dual stage ebc and I guess a single stage ebc?(real newb here)

Thanks.

[CustomMSP]

For the first 7k miles of my car I've been running at about 9.5psi. As soon as I hit the fuel cut I knew it was time to take out the MBC. Since about 7k miles on the car I've been running at stock boost, 7psi, according to my gauge. But, I've had some exhaust work done and some other things that made the car run very nice. It was a noticeable difference between 9.5 and stock boost at first, but then I got used to stock boost. I can't wait for warmer weather so I can put the boost back up and see how she runs. Plus I'm getting a FMIC setup very soon as well :)

Peace.

[Gbourdon]

So heres my thought. I ran an MBC for about 2K miles. Now I am stock. If I go in for warrnaty work a few more thousand miles down the road and they find that I had spliced my vac line before think they will deny me? Yeah yeah every dealership is different and so on but still it seems that now that it is out and has been out they should warranty my car.

[Gbourdon]

Originally posted by TitanB
Whats the difference in this dual stage ebc and I guess a single stage ebc?(real newb here)

Thanks.



You can set a high and low boost level.

[TitanB]

Ahh.. ok well that makes sense. Thanks.