Wowie, wow, wow, Mazda has added $1,000 factory to dealer incentive to MSP + rebates

[rocketspeed]

Invoice= $19,447

$2,500 rebate to all

$1,000 factory to dealer cash=

$15,947

Take off another $500 for college if you qualify


Now's the time to snatch up the last of them if you're in the market. I thought I was getting a good deal 2 months ago at $17.5k. Oh well, the car still has me smiling. :D

Will hurt all of our resale values, though. :(

[Turbo Matty P]

I've been trying to tell people this for a while!! MSP is a great value right now!! No car on the market can do what this can for this little money! Unless of course you want to buy a piece-honda and sink $10K into it.....my moto: You can polish a turd, but its still a turd.

Buy up a MSP if you see one for sale!!

[yashooa]

Yep last week on Christmas Eve there was local dealer clearing them out for 4500$ + another 1500.00$ off. They had them down to about 15,500$ and the same deal applied to the PR5, shit, it was under 12 grand for a PR5 that is FUCKING SICK!
They sold them all that day. I had a friend try to get one from both of the stores all gone by afternoon. It was crazy. I wanted a PR5 at that price for my daughter. Missed out though:(

[Brenetics]

jeebus...someone must REALLY want me to pickup a MSP

[yashooa]

Originally posted by Brenetics
jeebus...someone must REALLY want me to pickup a MSP
Don't fuck around get one will the gettins good. Don't let the rebates pass you by if you really want one get for a steal. NOW!
I for one love my car and have only the clunk as a real problem. Overall I do not reget buying one bit and I love my Wife's PR5 almost as much.
Do you realize at these prices I could have bought a new PR5 and a new MSP for 26,600$ or so! WTF that's nuts.
Man I mean those bastards were just saying,"Fuck it here's what we want take it or someone else will." I was so screaming at my buds,"Buy the car you cheap fucking tard!" But nooooo! hey had to drag his procrastinating ass around all damn day until by the time he called they were all sold out! FUCKTARD!!!

[jonnydoe48]

12k pr5 + 4k high boost kit = love

[gcotton]

Thats bullshit, when I got my car in Jan. The MSP's were going for like 23k. I did my best just to get down to the 20,500 mark. Im just gettin pissed. You guys owe like 13, 14, maybe even 15k when here I am a year later and I still owe 18k. I should have waited a while. Thats what I get for being impatient and having to have the 1st MSP in Kentucky.

[Leigh]

This is kind of depressing. I got mine for 18k about 2 months ago & thought that was a pretty good deal. :(
Should have waited

[AutoBox]

always buy a new car at the end of the production year...car buyin 101.....my gf's bro flipped when i told him i paided 17k for my car when he paided 24k for his gti.....and he likes my car 10 times better......i bought my car in nov. btw....i wanted to wait til decemeber but i needed a car....oh well

[Brenetics]

hmm, the question now is....P5 and then b00st it. Or MSP...hmmmmmmm

[Turbo Matty P]

Ever hear the expression, "Good things come to those who wait?"

Need any vaseline? Why did you pay above stickerprice for ANYTHING in the first place? That's like going up to a coke machine....seeing it costs $.50 and putting in $.68. I understand wanting something as soon as it comes out, but crap man....I bet you won't pay sticker ever again!

[Leigh]

Guess that shows us huh?

I thought I was getting it year end. I bought the end of Nov after driving around for a couple of weeks &/or calling most of the area dealerships.

18 was still way under MSRP & I was getting about the same offer everywhere. When one dealer offered me 700 more for my trade than anyone else would I thought that was enough to be a pretty good deal. I expected they'd drop another 500 or so in Dec.... but not this much.

Should have waited longer I guess.

[Turbo Matty P]

the point of this thread is......

BUY AN MSP NOW IF YOU WANT ONE!!

[Brenetics]

what exactly is the factory to dealer cash thing?

All I've owned are Hondas and they NEVER have any of these rebates....

[Leigh]

the point of this thread is......

BUY AN MSP NOW IF YOU WANT ONE!!

Yes, stop thinking - go buy and enjoy having a great car for next to nothing.

Buy them all up & then hoard them preciously so all us poor idiots can get our resale back :D

Or at least so we can be happy someone's enjoying the deal.

I think in the meantime I'm going to go out for a drive to make myself feel better ;)

[Turbo Matty P]

dealer cash is a factory incentive to the dealer for selling the unit. Even though this is only supposed to go to the dealer they will often give up some or all of the bonus cash to make a sale and move the unit.

One thing to remember is that dealerships also have to take out loans on every unit on their lot. At the end of the month/year they owe for those units not sold. PLUS, factory will pay out bonuses based on number of units moved. So moving 100 units at 1% profit may be better than moving 30 units at 20% profit.

[Brenetics]

ahhh
thanks!

[SmoothCriminal]

hmmm the dealership I bought from offers a 30 day price match... I paid $15500 out the door... wonder if they'll give me $1000 back and I'll end up with a brand new msp for $14500 hahahaha

[Turbo Matty P]

I highly doubt it...for a price match to work you have to have the other dealerships offer in writing signed by their sales manager.

Local mitsu dealer here had a deal going if you test drive a mitsu and still buy a competitors vehicle they'll give you $100. A friend of mine went and test drove the lancer then ended up bying an RX8 the same day. Went back with his car and they gave him a check for $100.....I shoulda thought about that when I traded the MSP for the P5!! Just a way to get another $100 and hurt mitsu's sorry ass.

[2words]

how do i get them to honor this 1000 factory to dealer incentive?? if so im in a black msp!!!
20500
-2500rebate
-1000 incentive
-1325 s plan

15675 dang thats sweet

[Turbo Matty P]

I'm not familiar with mazda's S plan....I got my contour svt on ford's A-plan, but it was a BITCH! As for the $1000 dealer cash incentive.....they don't have to do anything they don't want. If they don't want to come down any with that $1K dealer cash then they wont.....I would just tell them that you know about it and if they threw it in you'd have a done deal. Ask them whats more important: Moving another unit and making a new loyal customer or $1000. Ask them how much they spend on advertising for each car they end up selling....I know for a fact they will know that number. If it's more than $1K then you've just bought a car!

[markeddy]

Originally posted by 2words
how do i get them to honor this 1000 factory to dealer incentive?? if so im in a black msp!!!
20500
-2500rebate
-1000 incentive
-1325 s plan

15675 dang thats sweet

You need to take ALL of that off the FACTORY INVOICE of $18,466, so you get $13,641 which includes your S Plan (savings plan or whatever that means).

There is no reason they should not sell that car at close to INVOICE price maybe $250 over invoice for a little profit but that's all.

Print out the factory invoice from Edmunds.com or Carpoint.com, subtract all the rebates and incentives, add whatever the dealer wants over invoice to sell the car, and that will = your final price.

Then start subtracting any trade-in allowance or money down LAST.

You should litterally be getting that car on the CHEAP from the dealership!

Go to it...it's the best car out there right now for that money which is why I bought one plus it has more leg room than a Honda Accord in the backseat for future daddies like myself, is cheaper, handles 100x better, and looks 100x better!!!

A STEAL!!!

[pingdum]

In 2 days it's going to be 2004 and the dealers are really going to get stuck so if you can wait a week they're going to come down more. On the resale side, I'm always looking at tons of used car lots when I drive around and I hardly ever see any P5s. To me that means they're holding their value and are going to for a while. There's always plenty of 2002 Cavilers and Focuses on the lots.

[JDM Sam]

Hey what's this S-Plan you guys are talking about? Is it for employees of Mazda or parent companies like Ford?

Hey at least us 2003 Msp guys cant complain, especially the orange ones. I'd like to see someone find a Spicy Orange for sale still at that price and with low miles that hasnt been test driven and ragged out like an old porn star.

[Turbo Matty P]

I think you missed my post a few days ago about mazdasouth.com having 2 brand new Orange MSP's for these low prices. From what I understand, they are a volume dealer and had a LOT of MSP's under the auspices that they could sell them by the truckload....this was not the case. Now they are clearing them out at 0 profit. It's a great deal......yes, even if you want the orange or black!

[JDM Sam]

Shit id buy a spare orange just in case. All the oranges in DFW are gone. So what is this S plan about?

[rocketspeed]

This is one terrific deal. Ira Mazda in Danvers, MA had 4 on their lot last Friday when my car was in for service, I think one in each color. Someone was looking at the blue one, they were asking me all kinds of questions about my snow tires.

I could have waited 2 months and saved $1,500. Doh!

[yashooa]

Originally posted by JDM Sam
Hey what's this S-Plan you guys are talking about? Is it for employees of Mazda or parent companies like Ford?

Hey at least us 2003 Msp guys cant complain, especially the orange ones. I'd like to see someone find a Spicy Orange for sale still at that price and with low miles that hasnt been test driven and ragged out like an old porn star.

HEHEHE elderly PRON STAR (lol)

[yashooa]

Originally posted by JDM Sam
Shit id buy a spare orange just in case. All the oranges in DFW are gone. So what is this S plan about?

My brother got his Orange for a little under 18k a few months back at Hiley and even then they had to bring the car to the dealer. I must say it was quite a pleasing sight seeing a Mica Black and Spicy Orange MSP driving back and forth through the late evening Christmas Eve Dallas trafiic. I couldn't help but admire the good looks of the car and how well the spicy orange color turned out. It looks like an orange clear coat poured over a solid gold basecoat. Very good color. I feel eventually they will be more desirable than any of the other models.

[yashooa]

Originally posted by JDM Sam
Hey what's this S-Plan you guys are talking about? Is it for employees of Mazda or parent companies like Ford?

Hey at least us 2003 Msp guys cant complain, especially the orange ones. I'd like to see someone find a Spicy Orange for sale still at that price and with low miles that hasnt been test driven and ragged out like an old porn star.
I have the S plan but when I bought mine the dealers would not budge an inch it was Feburary and they were really proud of them I paid 19k for mine. So all you WHORES yelling about 18k can suck big fat Spicy Orange MSP BAWLS!!! :D :p :D

At least some people paid more than I did HAH, HAH! ;)

[txmzdspd2gen]

hi ive check the site for mazdasouth but it says 16500 still on their msp orange one..i want the orange one soo bad..in all how much will we get...price wise and discount so i can be armed when we go to the dealership. thanks

[chwood]

Originally posted by yashooa
I have the S plan but when I bought mine the dealers would not budge an inch it was Feburary and they were really proud of them I paid 19k for mine. So all you WHORES yelling about 18k can suck big fat Spicy Orange MSP BAWLS!!! :D :p :D

At least some people paid more than I did HAH, HAH! ;)

yeah, I would be one of those people.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

:'( for current rebates

[t3ase]

dealerships around here (austin, tx) have had this pricing for quite a long time...

[BrianV]

I got mine in the beginning of October or $15,495

[t3ase]

Originally posted by BrianV
I got mine in the beginning of October or $15,495
I hate you. :D 23k for mine.

[BrianV]

Actually I got it for $15,995, got that wrong.

$23k ouch, I bet you owe more on yours then mine, and I have probably 7% the milage you do.

Oh well.

[bazooka joe]

just called the dealer 14,995 ou the door (college rebate)

[yashooa]

Originally posted by bazooka joe
just called the dealer 14,995 ou the door (college rebate)
Oh yes You ARE a whore :p

[pingdum]

Originally posted by txmzdspd2gen
hi ive check the site for mazdasouth but it says 16500 still on their msp orange one..i want the orange one soo bad..in all how much will we get...price wise and discount so i can be armed when we go to the dealership. thanks

If you have decent credit, go to your bank or credit union and get a loan for 15, then go to the dealer and offer them like 12 cash out the door. If they say no keep going up in like 300 or 400 increments until they say yes. I bet you walk with a fantastic deal.

[klowhorn]

I bought my MSP on 12/22/03. I got one of the last 4 remaining in Indiana. A local dealer had 3 yellow and 1 silver. I bought the silver one and got a great deal. I paid $16,200, there was still a little money left on the table, but I wasn't going to bicker. There are better cars out there, but for $16,200 it can't be beat with a stick. I read on some other forums that people had the problem with hesitation and got it fixed with a flash done by the dealer. I hate to admit it, but I have no idea what they are talking about. I have the same problem, but I've only got about 500 miles on the car and I'm waiting to hit 1,000 miles before I start to get into what it can do. Can someone tell me what that "flash" is? I'd like to have it done at my dealer.

[unwrittenLaw]

i'm gonna wait till i'm 80 and buy one for 5 bucks

[rocketspeed]

Originally posted by klowhorn
I bought my MSP on 12/22/03. I got one of the last 4 remaining in Indiana. A local dealer had 3 yellow and 1 silver. I bought the silver one and got a great deal. I paid $16,200, there was still a little money left on the table, but I wasn't going to bicker. There are better cars out there, but for $16,200 it can't be beat with a stick. I read on some other forums that people had the problem with hesitation and got it fixed with a flash done by the dealer. I hate to admit it, but I have no idea what they are talking about. I have the same problem, but I've only got about 500 miles on the car and I'm waiting to hit 1,000 miles before I start to get into what it can do. Can someone tell me what that "flash" is? I'd like to have it done at my dealer.

Search under flash and you'll find a mountain of info.

It may have been done already. My car doesn't have a hesitation problem, but I have no idea if the flash was done or not. They generally apply a sticker under the hood, but not always. They were supposed to have flashed the cars on the lot after it came out, but they didn't always do that either.

If you notice a hesitation problem, its an easy dealer fix. If not, don't worry about it.

[low_psi]

damn, i'm gonna try again tomorrow to convince my father to co-sign with me. i think i'm wearing him down :)

[lasermp5]

Ya they are wheelin and dealin those MSPs now. I really really regret getting my "deal" on the MP5. 14.5 out the door is great, but not when I could have got a MSP three months later for only 1500 more! Ah oh well.

[carbonkid]

Minnesota dealership (http://www.polarchevmazda.com) (Twin Cities). This is where I bought mine for $17895 in October. Now since going overseas, they have gone down even more, as their ad now says $16795! Nick Hussein is the salesman I dealt with. Thanks and good luck!

[klowhorn]

I was going to do all my own oil changes and I still will. But when I asked the dealer about using Mobile 1 5W-30 synthetic they advised against it. I didn't think it made any sense, and they couldn't give me a good answer why either. That is the oil I've always used, and I believe it to be one of the best if not even the best out there.

[yashooa]

Originally posted by klowhorn
I was going to do all my own oil changes and I still will. But when I asked the dealer about using Mobile 1 5W-30 synthetic they advised against it. I didn't think it made any sense, and they couldn't give me a good answer why either. That is the oil I've always used, and I believe it to be one of the best if not even the best out there.

???? Damn and I thought I had trouble staying on topic. :confused: (k) :confused:

[klowhorn]

Sorry, I got off topic because someone has posted a reply, and on his post he listed all of the mods he had made. One of those was switching to Mobile 1, and it made me think of that.

[Raiz]

Could the original poster or one of the people who know where to find it please link me to this factory to dealer incentive. I just called my Mazda dealer and he says he doesn't know anything about it. I told him I'd give him a call back.

I really need this info asap, so if you have a link to it, just go ahead and post it here! Thanks in advance!!!

[rocketspeed]

Find another dealer if he doesn't know anything about it. Means he doesn't want to give it to you. He doesn't have to.


http://www.edmunds.com/new/2003/mazda/mazdaspeedprotege/100273774/incentives.html?tid=edmunds.n.optionsresults.npt.. 7.Mazda*

[Raiz]

Well, the problem is that I bought the car about a week ago. I was really hoping that he would pricematch to the current deals.:(

The original poster said $1000 factory to dealer incentive.... your link shows $1500 incentive..... are you sure you are both talking about the same thing?

[Petey Turbo]

I picked mine up for a smidgen over 15k dec 23rd...I used to work at the dealer though:p

[low_psi]

have you guys that have bagged the MSp for 16.5K and under recently used the 0% financing or are you getting the these low prices with the cash rebate and not the 0%?

[rocketspeed]

Originally posted by Raiz
Well, the problem is that I bought the car about a week ago. I was really hoping that he would pricematch to the current deals.:(

The original poster said $1000 factory to dealer incentive.... your link shows $1500 incentive..... are you sure you are both talking about the same thing?

Yes, re-read it carefully. There is a $2,500 manufacturer to customer rebate and on top of that, there is $1,000 marketing support to the dealer.

There is no way a dealer is going to price match any increased rebate (I bought mine a month and a half ago when the rebate was only 2k) and less than no chance of you recovering a factory to dealer incentive. They don't even have to give you that if you were buying new, nor do they have to tell you about it. Its entirely up to them what to do with it- keep it and try to make more dough or use it to cut the price on the car and move more units at their standard profit.

Sorry, dude, you just aren't going to get it.

As for the guy with the question on cheap prices AND discounted financing- review the link. You can get some rebate and, of course, the dealer discount plus cheap financing, but you can't have it all at once.

You can get a pretty good price and cheap financing or a rock bottom price and market financing. You'll have to run the numbers to see whats best for you. Depends on your credit and how long you're thinking about financing.

[low_psi]

heh, i know what the link says. i was just wondering if anyone had grabbed one for ~16K with the 0%-60months-6months no payments or if they were only using the other rebates.

[Turbo Matty P]

I've never felt ripped off before getting a 2.9% intrest rate! 2.9% was the holy grail of intrest rates when I bought my first new car! Now i'm shamed to come home and tell my wife I got 2.9%!

the point is, no matter what rate you get you're going to get a great deal on a great car!

[low_psi]

interesting...

[SpicyMchaggis]

the dealer near me is selling my friends trade in 2003.75 laser blue for like 18.9..won't come down either..so i says..to maybel i says to her..fuck that

[Petey Turbo]

I got the $1000 dealer rebate along with the other rebates when I got mine

[rocketspeed]

You should be able to get it. If a dealer won't give it to you, walk and try another. Eventually one will want to move the car badly enough and will give it.

[Brenetics]

this sucks, the rebates remain the same but the dealers won't budge past $18.5....i've tried like 5 dealers in the tampa/st. pete area...dah well, maybe it wasn't meant to be...

[DSM2MSP]

I have the same problem as you and Im in the DC area. I feel as if I need to travel to a different state just to get a good deal because all the dealerships around here are pricks. I really want to buy one but its like I dont even feel like dealing with the dealership because I want scouting for a new MSP at 4 different dealerships and talked with a few salesmen about it and seemed really interested and none of them would budge on the price or even cared when I left (I even left my phone number and nobody called me back). So now Im just like whatever, if they dont want my sale Ill go travel 500 miles just to get this damn car, but not from you. So I was hoping more people could put what dealership they got their car from so others can maybe go to the same one ;)

Mike

[04MINIcooperS]

he he he !

I wish they had these kinda deals before i blew the clutch on my 6-duce! Or i'd be drivin one.

I call it a sign. And hate my 626 with a bloody passion. So i decided to by an overly engineered british car! THE MINI! weeeee

You MSP guys should go check one out, it'll surprise you. But not the regular one, the supercharged one. The reg. one is just....gay. But damn that supercharged MINI will scoot like a bat outa hell!


For the record, the MINI has been ordered since late sept. when TX mazda dealers were still at the 20k$ price. So i was like...mini or mazda.............MINI!

[carbonkid]

Originally posted by 04MINIcooperS


I call it a sign. And hate my 626 with a bloody passion. So i decided to by an overly engineered british car! THE MINI! weeeee

You MSP guys should go check one out, it'll surprise you. But not the regular one, the supercharged one. The reg. one is just....gay. But damn that supercharged MINI will scoot like a bat outa hell!


For the record, the MINI has been ordered since late sept. when TX mazda dealers were still at the 20k$ price. So i was like...mini or mazda.............MINI!

I drove a Cooper S before I bought the MSP. It handled like a go kart, but too many times, I have seen women call it cute! No way! Bottom line: I paid $8000.00 less for the MSP than I would have for the MINI I wanted (about 25K, options galore). Where the MSP is as is from the dealership. A lot of the money I saved has gone towards mods, where as with the MINI I would only be able to make the payments. Plus, as a 4 door, the MSP had lower ins for me.

I bet you are excited, good luck!

[04MINIcooperS]

I would have to say the "cute comments" are the only downside for a teenage driver. And that's me, but shit, at my school we have 2 M3's an NSX couple vr-4's couple z-28's and 2 SS's and a shitload of NEW jeeps.

So im not going to try to "best them" with my cool car, just out corner em! ha ha ha

[carbonkid]

Sorry for the thread jack...

[rocketspeed]

Go to another state and buy it.