Injen CAI DYNO

[03MSPRO]

http://www.injen.com/webpages/testing/dyno_graphs_1104/original/RD6066.jpg

what do you guys think? Pretty amazing results, specially after someone said that the Injen lost power on the dyno.

[jersey_emt]

NICE. The power increase feels about right...I KNEW it wasn't just psychological because it's louder.

Of course, the fact that my 0-60 times dropped after the CAI install also showed me that the Injen increases power noticeably.

[SDMSP]

Originally posted by jersey_emt
Of course, the fact that my 0-60 times dropped after the CAI install also showed me that the Injen increases power noticeably.

:confused: explain please

[jersey_emt]

G-tech tests...0-60mph time dropped by a couple of tenths.

[SDMSP]

Originally posted by jersey_emt
G-tech tests...0-60mph time dropped by a couple of tenths.
wow couple of tenths, that's not bad for couple of hundred bucks. How does it feel at top end?

[jersey_emt]

It also may be the fact that I'm slowly improving on my launch as well :)

Top end is still pretty shitty...I can feel the acceleration drop way off at higher RPM's. I need a bigger exhaust to open up the top end on this thing.

[BadBandar]

yea i got an injen intake too. its not so bad. But thats not that bad. More power increase then i thoguht of. Nice.

[DiscreetSpeed]

thats spicy's car...great mod

[jersey_emt]

Hey, I think the Injen (or any intake) is worth the money for the sound alone! The turbo sounds awesome now.

[AamirMSP]

Those dyno results are from the Injen webpage. I would rather see some independent dyno testing of the CAI.

[SuperSpud]

im REALLY thinking about getting an injen instead of an apex DP for now... just for emissions purposes... perhaps an injen and an apex turbo timer or somthing.. we'll see.. black injen in my black speed would look mighty fine :)

[MSP Chris]

All I know is I hate when other companies talk shit and then you throw result's in their face. Shitty buisness ethics.

[MrRoseBlackMSP]

if i had a scanner to show you my dyno at boosting 10 psi with the injen i would but ill tell you the #s it was 191hp/187tq

[mp5jeff]

Originally posted by MrRoseBlackMSP
if i had a scanner to show you my dyno at boosting 10 psi with the injen i would but ill tell you the #s it was 191hp/187tq



and was was it before you put the cai on at 10 psi? thats not really telling us anything

[mp5jeff]

those power curves are completely different, i don't see how thats possible they obviously didnt run the car the same each time

[MrRoseBlackMSP]

that was with the CAI on and boosting 10 psi this is also preflash back in the summer i think it was in july

[mp5jeff]

Originally posted by MrRoseBlackMSP
that was with the CAI on and boosting 10 psi this is also preflash back in the summer i think it was in july


thats not really helping out with this thread they are trying to see what the cai alone increases not turning the boost up also...

[mp5jeff]

stock max trq was achived at 3800 or so and with the intake was achieved at 6k? how is this possible just from changing the intake for a turbo, im not seeing this happening sorry...

[mp5jeff]

also would be nice to see what kind of a/f ratios both runs

[MrRoseBlackMSP]

sorry just trying to help out

[mp5jeff]

i know im just tellin ya if you had the stock then cai dyno that woulda been perfect...although truthfully i dont rely much on dynos but thats just me, but when i see a funky dyno like this one, i get very skeptical, a intake for a TURBO should NOT change the power curves like this

[MrRoseBlackMSP]

this is true but from personal experience with just the intake on it definately pulls better then with the stock air box and noticably i might add

[mp5jeff]

it may feel that way, because its louder, but untill i ride in a car stock vs. the cai i don't want to comment on that except for this dyno that thing is definately wierd...

[mp5jeff]

also, just a thought as i said before i would like to see A/F ratios because with this intake it might change the a/f around and therefore increasing horsepower, which intern with the stock airbox if you tuned your a/f ratio's yourself would most likely result in the same thing...just a thought maybe im wrong..

[Panzozo]

It would be nice to show the a/f ratio. But If I'm not mistaken, according to the graph, with the Injen CAI, the max torque is still within 3600rpm - 3850rpm range with 159 ft/lbs. The torque range for 6000 rpm is around 130 ft/lbs.
The dyno graph looks pretty reasonable for me. Nothing seems to be weird. :confused:

[mazdaspeed75]

Let me ask this i ran 15.1 with the injen my car isnt flashed so what time do you guys run stock without the flash I think the injen helped with my rich fuel too its not hesitating as much

[03MSPRO]

Originally posted by AamirMSP
Those dyno results are from the Injen webpage. I would rather see some independent dyno testing of the CAI.

I agree. They could have heat soaked the tiny IC and use that as the base run and then let it cool off for 30 minutes while installing the CAI and use that as their after dyno.
141 whp for a stock MSP seems a lil low.

[03MSPRO]

Originally posted by SuperSpud
im REALLY thinking about getting an injen instead of an apex DP for now... just for emissions purposes... perhaps an injen and an apex turbo timer or somthing.. we'll see.. black injen in my black speed would look mighty fine :)

Just get the Apex DP with the hi-flow cat and you'll be fine. That's what I am getting.

[Leadfoot]

I've done a G-tech run w/ my Injen & came up w/ an avg. of 161.83 HP...since I haven't done a baseline, I plan on doing one once I have a full saturday to burn. I'll switch out back to stock airbox, then do the runs (in 2nd)...get an average...then switch back to the Injen & do the same runs again. I'll definitely be posting up the results once I get it done. (BTW my car is flashed)

[SpicyMSP]

w00t my car! I have a video if you guys want too.

[Pure Insanity]

Looking strictly at the power curves on the sheet it looks like the CAI did away w/ some of the flat spots we have w/ the MSP. That itself is a welcome improvement.

Top of my head guess would be that the CAI is flowing more and colder air to help w/ "lean out" the overly rich condition we have. If it can make use of that extra fuel by feeding more air to it. GREAT!

[SpicyMSP]

Keep in mind that dyno was before the flash. I'll be bringing my car back to Injen after the 1rst of the year so I'll post dyno's.

[JTP]

Spicy I want to see the videos.

[SirJaime]

Originally posted by TheGreat1x2002
yea i got an injen intake too. :confused: :confused:its not so bad. But thats not that bad.:confused: :confused: More power increase then i thoguht of. Nice.



:D Ya I have the Injen RD6066P :D , I like the way it makes my car sound and the way it runs.... BUT someone said that the gobble sound was the sound of the air back flowing in to the turbo , (hand)Oh Hell why am I here fixin to ask you guys (hand)DOH ,

I will come back from Injen and post my findings (bang) Like thats really going to help (bang) But I have to trust them to know more about what there talking about than you people.

You people are nice to get Ideals from but hey there are way to many of ya talking shit about shit YOu know nada about , and don't even (so to say) OWN an MSP :wtf:

(upyours) OK FLAMERS (hee hee flamers;) ) spit it out get it out of your system!(upyours) (poke) (fuoops) (jerkit) (asshole)

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DAMN Injen is gonna be out till the 5th of Jan.

[Pure Insanity]

Are you having it flashed? If so why? The flash is to do away w/ the flat spots I thought. The CAI seems to have done that.

Maybe its just me but Im yet to see many GOOD consistant results from flashing. Seems to be a lot of people saying the hesitation is back....and worse.

[Pure Insanity]

Originally posted by SirJaime
:D Ya I have the Injen RD6066P :D , I like the way it makes my car sound and the way it runs.... BUT someone said that the gobble sound was the sound of the air back flowing in to the turbo , (hand)Oh Hell why am I here fixin to ask you guys (hand)DOH ,

I will come back from Injen and post my findings (bang) Like thats really going to help (bang) But I have to trust them to know more about what there talking about than you people.

You people are nice to get Ideals from but hey there are way to many of ya talking shit about shit YOu know nada about , and don't even (so to say) OWN an MSP :wtf:

(upyours) OK FLAMERS (hee hee flamers;) ) spit it out get it out of your system!(upyours) (poke) (fuoops) (jerkit) (asshole)

Just what in the blue hell are you talking about?! :wtf: Ive deciphered some random babbling in the past, but all I can say here is............

HUH!

[jersey_emt]

Originally posted by SirJaime
BUT someone said that the gobble sound was the sound of the air back flowing in to the turbo

The sound is there even without the CAI, but the stock airbox muffles it.

[Leadfoot]

Originally posted by jersey_emt
The sound is there even without the CAI, but the stock airbox muffles it.
thanks Justin...that's exactly what I was gonna say....it's there regardless, just you can't hear it as well w/ the stock setup.

[mp5jeff]

Originally posted by Leadfoot
I've done a G-tech run w/ my Injen & came up w/ an avg. of 161.83 HP...since I haven't done a baseline, I plan on doing one once I have a full saturday to burn. I'll switch out back to stock airbox, then do the runs (in 2nd)...get an average...then switch back to the Injen & do the same runs again. I'll definitely be posting up the results once I get it done. (BTW my car is flashed)




yes a G-tech is = to a dyno, uhh im gona go ahead with NO, why don't you goto a real dyno and take off the injen intake and then put it on and do runs like that, a g-tech won't really tell us anything HP wise, might as well use the awesomely known - butt-dyno

[jersey_emt]

Actually the g-tech units are shown to be very accurate and consistent, as long as all sources of error are attended to (accurate weight input, finding a completely level surface to test, etc.)

I still prefer seeing an actual dyno, but I'd take a g-tech run any day over a butt dyno.

[MSBlueP]

when i dyno'd my car last month *stock*
i came out wid:

155hp@wheels

[Heathen23]

I know this is MSPRO's thread but I would like to dedicate this thread to Pluto. He wouldn't shut up about how the intake lost power, along with all the other people that listened to unfound claims about the intake losing power. :p then again, I do agree with the statement "you can make dynos say anything you want them to".

[mp5jeff]

Originally posted by jersey_emt
Actually the g-tech units are shown to be very accurate and consistent, as long as all sources of error are attended to (accurate weight input, finding a completely level surface to test, etc.)

I still prefer seeing an actual dyno, but I'd take a g-tech run any day over a butt dyno.



yes you are right to a point, BUT a g-tech sucks ass for power numbers, they will never be accurate for that, only 1/4 mile times they are good as long as your on a flat surface...