GB: Limited Slip Differential [Archive]

Captain KRM P5

12-23-2003, 02:10 AM

The last thread strayed off into discussion about joining mazda motorsports to get certain pricing on certain parts, so this is a second attempt. For those interested in a GROUP BUY on an lsd, post so here. The price for everything needed is $550.

wscottl

12-23-2003, 08:37 AM

This is for the Quaife (http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/PartDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&id=1338) unit Mazda Comp carries?

If so, I'm interested. How many buyers do you need for that price?

-Scott

svxin

12-23-2003, 08:44 AM

yes which lsd is this i am interested also

wscottl

12-23-2003, 11:18 AM

I have a feeling this GB is for the stock MSP Tochigi-Fuji LSD.

The $550 price sounds impossible for the $1227.00 Quaife unit sold through MazdaComp.

I'll keep saving.

-Scott

Captain KRM P5

12-23-2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by svxin
yes which lsd is this i am interested also

this is for the Tochigi Fuji from the MSP, I do not need any set number of people for this price.

edit: dealer currently has four of these available for order now

svxin

12-24-2003, 08:54 AM

hummm i need to do some thinking

02p5

12-24-2003, 12:31 PM

I maybe interested, let me find out how much it costs here first.

ZoomThis

12-24-2003, 04:41 PM

I would be interested in this too, but I need someone to install it for me. Not feeling to sure about tearing a perfectly good transmission apart to install the LSD.....know what I mean?

How much would someone charge me to have the LSD installed?

ZMTHIS

Captain KRM P5

12-25-2003, 02:43 AM

Originally posted by ZoomThis
I would be interested in this too, but I need someone to install it for me. Not feeling to sure about tearing a perfectly good transmission apart to install the LSD.....know what I mean?

How much would someone charge me to have the LSD installed?

ZMTHIS

it costs about 300 in labor for a clutch/flywheel combination. I'm going to hazard a guess of 450 - 500 for an LSD

Vulcanon

12-25-2003, 02:44 AM

ugh need more moneh!!!!!!

YP5 Toronto

12-25-2003, 02:57 AM

can't say enough about adding an LSD to the P5 (MP3). here are some pics:

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32211&highlight=tranny+prep+turbo

and some more technical info on the subject

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31251&highlight=LSD+revisited

1sty

12-25-2003, 02:57 AM

So where are we at cap'n

Captain KRM P5

12-25-2003, 03:04 AM

Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
So where are we at cap'n

in terms of parts, I have immediate access to four of these. He could have them to me within two days of ordering them. He says the bearings themselves are usually the harder item to locate, not the LSD.

whoever wants in, just say so :)

Kooldino

12-25-2003, 03:12 AM

isn't $550 the standard price?

Aricjm15

12-25-2003, 03:14 AM

thats $550 for ALL of the parts, not just the LSD

Captain KRM P5

12-25-2003, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by Kooldino
isn't $550 the standard price?

550 is the wholesale cost. retail is over 700.

1sty

12-25-2003, 08:52 PM

I think he wants to know what will the total be with everything minus install.

SImp3

12-25-2003, 09:27 PM

very interested, just need to know, what the average cost for the install would be

Captain KRM P5

12-26-2003, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
I think he wants to know what will the total be with everything minus install.

all the parts = bearings + bolts + differential = $550

i will call around tomorrow, see if any shops are open, and get a labor quote.

Captain KRM P5

12-27-2003, 03:58 PM

labor for the installation on the limited slip is about $600. If you were to do it in tandem with a clutch and flywheel they would not charge you anything extra in labor.

SImp3

01-02-2004, 08:47 PM

Is this thing Dead or Alive, If its alive then count me in.

pdhaudio83

01-03-2004, 12:05 AM

whats the deal? can i still get in on this?

Captain KRM P5

01-03-2004, 01:37 AM

its very much alive - i can place orders at any time

pdhaudio83

01-03-2004, 03:22 AM

SpicyMchaggis

01-03-2004, 03:26 AM

550$! thats it? yeah..but how much installed..I'm no mechanic..that would cost a fortune!

wscottl

01-03-2004, 07:44 AM

From above:

labor for the installation on the limited slip is about $600. If you were to do it in tandem with a clutch and flywheel they would not charge you anything extra in labor.

-Scott

pdhaudio83

01-03-2004, 01:34 PM

how many people are in so far? (that have paid)

PaulMP3

01-03-2004, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Captain KRM P5
labor for the installation on the limited slip is about $600. If you were to do it in tandem with a clutch and flywheel they would not charge you anything extra in labor.

I would think they would charge you more for having to open the tranny to put the LSD in, just not as much because it already is out of the car. They still need to crack open the tranny, which looks like a lot of work..

Captain KRM P5

01-03-2004, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by paulmp3
I would think they would charge you more for having to open the tranny to put the LSD in, just not as much because it already is out of the car. They still need to crack open the tranny, which looks like a lot of work..

I am just stating the quote given to me by two shops in my area. $600 labor.

SpicyMchaggis

01-03-2004, 04:07 PM

So if any of you had to guess, how much it would charge to install the LSD?

Captain KRM P5

01-03-2004, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by pdhaudio
how many people are in so far? (that have paid)

no one has yet paid, but I can place orders at any time

1sty

01-04-2004, 12:50 AM

I'm out :(

Captain KRM P5

01-04-2004, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
I'm out :(

your signature tells all :( nice replacement for it. hope you got your dollar's worth out of the mp3

StarvingRussian

01-04-2004, 03:14 AM

Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
I'm out :(

What about your P5?

And just out of curiousity, why?

Matthew

01-06-2004, 09:52 AM

how long will this price be good for. im thinking my next project in the next few months after i get my wing, grille, stereo and UDP installed (most of which is already on order), ill save up for a LSD and clutch/flywheel. that way when i eventually go turbo ill be all set.

Aricjm15

01-06-2004, 07:15 PM

it will be good as long as mazda does not decide to screw us

OahuZX2

03-08-2004, 09:57 AM

Will it fit G5M transmission?

Captain KRM P5

03-08-2004, 07:30 PM

Will it fit G5M transmission?
i know the short shifters are interchangable but the LSD i do not think is. sorry!

OahuZX2

03-09-2004, 06:34 AM

Ya, Ive been running a B&M shifter for about a year now, but cant find anything to use for a LSD besides phantom grip, I either have to do a Focus or MSP tranny swap if I want a LSD option. IMO MSP tranny would be easier since I could keep the shift linkage, Focus tranny I have to switch to cable and buy a new shifter.

Reffoxel

03-09-2004, 09:13 PM

what kind of torque with the msp lsd handle?

Captain KRM P5

03-09-2004, 11:40 PM

what kind of torque with the msp lsd handle?
its pretty solid - its not as weak as a phantom grip but not as strong as a Quaife either. i have rarely heard of them breaking.

PFUNK5

03-09-2004, 11:55 PM

Captain KRM P5

03-10-2004, 12:21 AM

Ohh man this sounds so sweet. And the thing is that I know how to take diffs apart and put em back together...did em on rears, but never on a FWD. Shit...right now in auto class, all we're doing is differentials and trannys. Let me think about this one, I'll post soon...

(hand)
just an FYI for everyone, this doesn't have to be a group buy for this price, however i would like to know who at this point is seriously interested. If you are ready to buy, let me know.

viVid

03-11-2004, 01:15 AM

Does it include shipping? If not, how much is shipping to 97220? Do you still have some immidiately available? I will probably be up for one in about a week.

Thanks!

The last thread strayed off into discussion about joining mazda motorsports to get certain pricing on certain parts, so this is a second attempt. For those interested in a GROUP BUY on an lsd, post so here. The price for everything needed is $550.

daKiNeP5

03-11-2004, 01:21 AM

After the initial 4 are sold would you be able to get more for that price?

Captain KRM P5

03-11-2004, 01:36 AM

After the initial 4 are sold would you be able to get more for that price?
i can get them for this price 4ever

daKiNeP5

03-11-2004, 01:40 AM

Awesome! Hopefully I'll be contacting you sometime before summer! :)

Reffoxel

03-14-2004, 09:13 AM

Okey doke, talked with my performance mechanics and my sponsor and have decided to go ahead and get the LSD over the EMS I was originally planning on getting. Which means I want to get the LSD and I have the money available. Just give me a total price for the LSD and Shipping and how to send the money.

WRCprotege

03-14-2004, 12:59 PM

i think id like to do this if my tax return is nice, has anyone here done this in the P5, and how are the improvements??

Captain KRM P5

03-14-2004, 01:44 PM

carbonfibermp3

03-14-2004, 09:04 PM

I'm posting to stay updated.

Little Beavis

03-23-2004, 06:25 PM

The MSP LSD as discussed by SAE

Limited-slip differential

http://www.sae.org/automag/techawards/2002/21.jpgThe Super LSD (limited-slip differential) from Tochigi Fuji Sangyo KK includes a core clutch developed to work well with the strut suspension found in front-wheel-drive vehicles. The unit also works well in the front axle of four-wheel-drive off-road vehicles. Compared to other torque-sensing LSDs, the Super LSD has a lower torque bias ratio (1.5-2.0), which fits well with front suspension systems. Production costs are lower because of similarities to open differentials, and the device can be lubricated with standard differential fluid or ATF. The system can easily replace open differentials because it uses many of the same components and features identical installation points. The device provides good handling and control as well as a cost reduction.