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2K3 MSP
12-21-2003, 11:02 PM
For those of you that helped me with my IC piping problem, thanks again...
I brought my car to a shop here in Sacramento on Thursday, and they installed the upper IC pipe for me. When I went to pick up my car, the guy said he was interested in making and FMIC kit for us. He's working on the SRT-4 right now, and my car will be his test car. I don't have any specs yet, because this will not begin until January after I get back form vacation. I'll post the info ASAP.
I told him about this site, and that if he can hook us up, that he'd have a big group of people interested in a buy. So, I'll get some specs for you all, and see what kind of deal I can get.
Here are a few pics of the upper IC pipe he made for me.
EDIT: I know they can do polished as well as painted/thermal coated. I didn't have mine polished because this was an unexpected circumstance.
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/members/2K3 Mazdaspeed/icpipe1.jpg
/members/2K3 Mazdaspeed/icpipe2.jpg
/members/2K3 Mazdaspeed/icpipe3.jpg

instylz
12-21-2003, 11:11 PM
Yes post price! :)

2K3 MSP
12-21-2003, 11:15 PM
I'l call the guy tomorrow, and see if he can at least give me some info on it(piping diamters and IC info). I don't know if he's already got everything planned out, or if he's gonna decide stuff as he gets to it.

SuperSpud
12-22-2003, 01:30 AM
how much did he charge you for that pipe?

2K3 MSP
12-22-2003, 02:42 AM
That one was $180. If I did both, it would have been about $400, but I didn't have that much money. I didn't really even have the money for the one I did, but I had no choice at the moment.

KyRaceFan
12-22-2003, 07:39 PM
You sure this is an FMIC kit?

2K3 MSP
12-22-2003, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by KyRaceFan
You sure this is an FMIC kit?
I didn't post pictures of an FMIC kit. I posted pictures of the upper IC piping the guy made for me to fix the plastic one I broke......

**kit info**
Okay, so I went back to the shop and talked to the guy(Warren) and got the specs on the intercooler.

Spearco core:
24"x3.5"x7 (width/thickness/height)
With the endtanks, the overall width is 28". That's the perfect size for our front bumpers.
-Piping inlet is 2", outlet is 2.5"
-He said there would be no cutting or welding needed.
-All piping, hose clamps and silicone hoses will be provided.
-You can have your choice of BOV flange welded on, or none at all.
-Pipes will come painted silver(pictured above), or can be powder coated or polished for an extra cost.
-Silicone hoses will come either blue, black, yellow, red or orange(orange was kind of ugly looking IMO). Your choice.
-Price will be around $1000(read below)

I am not starting a group buy yet, but basically just gauging interest. I want your feedback on the kit(what is listed above), and what questions you'd like me to ask him. Tell me what you'd like to see added in the kit, and a price you'd pay, and I'll see what kind of a deal I can work out. I will not be getting any kind of discount myself on the kit. Here's the deal: I pay full price(what you guys would pay), and he installs it. After mine is made, I'll take pics and show you all what the final kit will look like. What do I get out of it? Free dyno tuning after the kit is installed.

KyRaceFan
12-22-2003, 09:43 PM
Sorry, your thraed was titled about a FMIC, and you posted pics of a hard pipe. Kinda confused me. I woulda made a seperate thread for the two things. :)

alexlitov
12-22-2003, 09:47 PM
It says FMIC kit coming soon...

2K3 MSP
12-22-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by 2K3 Mazdaspeed
When I went to pick up my car, the guy said he was interested in making an FMIC kit for us. He's working on the SRT-4 right now, and my car will be his test car. I don't have any specs yet, because this will not begin until January after I get back from vacation. I'll post the info ASAP.

rocketspeed
12-22-2003, 10:09 PM
That looks nice. Any benefit performance wise?

2K3 MSP
12-22-2003, 10:26 PM
I doubt it from just that one pipe. With the full FMIC kit, you would see a gain.

Heathen23
12-22-2003, 10:49 PM
If he makes a kit like that he should make it turkey free and be able to use the stock radiator and fans. That's asking alot but otherwise he's just making a kit that is already in the market, the only difference is the spearco core.

2K3 MSP
12-23-2003, 03:26 AM
Since I haven't been keeping up on the whole turkey situation, What would Warren have to do to make this kit "turkey free"?
What exactly is the problem with the stock radiator and fans? Again, I'm not in the loop. Is it an over-heating problem, or a size problem? I asked him on a previous visit, and he said there should be no cooling(over-heating) issues.
I appreciate the comments Heathen. Get back to me and let me know what would solve the turkey problem, and I'll talk to him about the radiator as well.:)

Heathen23
12-23-2003, 03:55 AM
No more turkey - http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb225/showthread.php?threadid=40956&highlight=no+more+turkey+how+to

And yes, overheating is an issue with the FMIC blocking the Radiator. Our Radiator is somewhat blocked by the bumper and then when you put a FMIC in front of the lower half it's basically left with very little exposure. Our Temp gauge is a joke so you are left ot either research it before production and compensate, have a worthy temp gauge, or go with a larger radiator. A stock P5 radiator would be more ideal because it goes further across (if I recall) where ours stops for the stock IC.

Hope that helps.

gcotton
12-23-2003, 04:53 AM
I have the same spearco intercooler and im not having any issues

Panzozo
12-23-2003, 05:23 AM
A "turkey free" FMIC setup will definitely get a lot of interest and give the product an edge out of all the FMIC in the market.
Also, it will be nice to get rid of the stock IC since it will not be use with the FMIC setup.

2K3 MSP
12-23-2003, 06:15 PM
I'll try and talk to Warren again on Saturday, and discuss the turkey issue with him. I'll print out the info from this site, and see if he can come up with a good solution. It sounds like a few of you might be interested, so if he can come up with some ideas, I'll have him start installing it and testing it around mid-January.

505zoom
12-23-2003, 06:27 PM
I want royalties dammit!!!! j/k, that would be awesome if he could make that for you guys. All he'd really have to do is setup a flange for the stock valve to recirculate as normal, and then weld a flange for an aftermarket BOV on there as well. Nothing really too special, he wouldn't even need to charge very much extra.

2K3 MSP
12-23-2003, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by 505zoom
All he'd really have to do is setup a flange for the stock valve to recirculate as normal, and then weld a flange for an aftermarket BOV on there as well.
I don't have an FMIC yet, so all I've got to look at is pics. You on the other hand, know what needs to be done;). Where exactly do you think these should go? It would save a lot of time if I already knew where the best place would be to have Warren weld the flanges...It would be MUCH appreciated.
So, I would need one flange welded on the IC>TB pipe for the BOV, and one somewhere on the turbo>IC pipe for the stock BPV, which recirculates back into the intake? Is that correct? Anything else?

505zoom
12-23-2003, 06:49 PM
Mine and discreet's are setup with both valves on the IC--->TB pipe, and it works great. I'm not positive that putting one on each pipe would work, but who knows, it might even work better than mine. The aftermarket flange should be 3"-14" away from the TB.

KyRaceFan
12-23-2003, 08:05 PM
Do you guys realize that EVERY turbo car flutters, or has the turkey?
ITS A NORMAL SOUND.

:D

Heathen23
12-23-2003, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by KyRaceFan
Do you guys realize that EVERY turbo car flutters, or has the turkey?
ITS A NORMAL SOUND.

:D

Some, but most make a whistle and then a BPV or BOV sound. Not a sound that makes people think there is something drastically wrong with your car.

Heathen23
12-23-2003, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by gcotton
I have the same spearco intercooler and im not having any issues

How are you monitoring temps?

505zoom
12-23-2003, 08:18 PM
This is not how most turbo cars sound:

http://www.wpi.edu/~jck15243/MOV00495.MPG

I would say that this is more like it;):

http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/505zoom/mov00540.mpg

Heathen23
12-23-2003, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by 505zoom
This is not how most turbo cars sound:

http://www.wpi.edu/~jck15243/MOV00495.MPG

I would say that this is more like it;):

http://www.mazdamp3.com/members/505zoom/mov00540.mpg

Thank you for illustrating my point.

All Boost
12-23-2003, 09:03 PM
What mod gives you the Turkey sound? My only mod so far is a SRI and i have a fluttering sound, but not a turkey. Its more of a much louder stock sound.
I'd love to make a mpeg, but the car is stored till march. :( WEll maybe if its nice tommorow :)

DiscreetSpeed
12-23-2003, 09:06 PM
the fluttering is the turkey, the intake is what amplifies it.
its just the discrepency(as i like to call it) that comes with the vehicle no mod causes it.