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Geoffsurfs
11-30-2003, 09:16 PM
I am making a christmas list, what is the best turbo timer that you guys recommend?
I dont need one with boost control or gauge, just basic turbo timer.
thanks

Striker187
11-30-2003, 09:19 PM
w/ boost control? i didn't know there was one. they're all good, it just depends on what extra feature(s) you want. apexi's has an a/f ratio output, hks does 0-60 and stuff, etc...

03MSPRO
11-30-2003, 10:24 PM
HKS TT type 0, only $76

mspeedpro
12-01-2003, 12:33 AM
i got hks type 1, how do u set it up to read 0-60 1/4 or whatever it might be able to do??

Dexter
12-01-2003, 12:40 AM
you hit the button on the top left until i reads 60 (not 0-60, thats 60ft)
then just run when the display flashes zero.

1338
12-01-2003, 07:37 AM
i have a blitz DTT fore sale it has a built in boost guage.

MSPRO
12-01-2003, 09:45 AM
i have a Blitz FATT ,already had a boost guage didn't need another one. Took me all of like 15 mins to install and it works perfectly.

CatchMe
12-01-2003, 09:47 AM
insert name on forum heheheheehe

PaulMP3
12-01-2003, 09:56 AM
:confused:

1sty
12-01-2003, 10:06 AM
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BremertonMSP
12-01-2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
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I agree. Waste of money as far as I'm concerned.

Heathen23
12-01-2003, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
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In most cases people don't need them if they have a little patience but I find mine has been worth every penny (blitz DTT http://www.rxecret7.com/bltz14358.html ). I drive frequently for my job with lots of short runs from business to business and the TT keeps me from waiting. Also my drive home is a nice winding road with hills that I boost through the entire time so the TT was well worth the purchase. I have been very happy with the blitz and the boost gauge feature. It kept me from spending on a guage and keeps everything nice and stealth not attracting thieves.

Geoffsurfs
12-01-2003, 11:16 AM
so if i dont need the boost gauge, then what one is best with other features? Or what is the best website to read reviews?
thanks for your input!

1sty
12-01-2003, 11:30 AM
A compustar remote starter/ alarm that has a TT built in.

LinuxRacr
12-01-2003, 11:33 AM
This is what I am saying! I didn't buy a turbo timer, because I didn't really need one, but waited to upgrade my alarm system to a Compustar that has it built in. I'm glad I did.

LinuxRacr
12-01-2003, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by Geoffsurfs
so if i dont need the boost gauge, then what one is best with other features? Or what is the best website to read reviews?
thanks for your input!

If you do any performance mods, you will NEED a boost gauge.

Geoffsurfs
12-01-2003, 11:53 AM
already have one. dont need 2.

Geoffsurfs
12-02-2003, 05:57 PM
Bump.
Any other opinions on the Turbo Timers?

1sty
12-02-2003, 06:23 PM
nope, thats all of them :D

Bullit
12-02-2003, 07:40 PM
Just wondering if the Boost Gauge in the Blitz DTT is accurate? I assume it is a digital gauge. Also how responsive is it compared to a regular dial gauge?

Thx,

Bullit

03MSPRO
12-02-2003, 07:46 PM
well, I am very happy with my $76 TT. I don't have patience!!

spoolup
12-03-2003, 01:05 AM
you do need 2 boost gauges. The meters on ur pod or wherever u have it arent that accurate. You'd want something else for a real reference. SOmething that the turbo builders use taht actually in the engine or the enxt best thing to use for another reference is the boost gauge built into the boost controller.... a lot more accurate. I know ppl ethat thought tehy were reunning liek 10 psi but they were really runnin 13 and if ur engine isnt strong enough tahts death just cause u only wanted one gauge.

jflo
12-03-2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by spoolup
you do need 2 boost gauges. The meters on ur pod or wherever u have it arent that accurate. You'd want something else for a real reference. SOmething that the turbo builders use taht actually in the engine or the enxt best thing to use for another reference is the boost gauge built into the boost controller.... a lot more accurate. I know ppl ethat thought tehy were reunning liek 10 psi but they were really runnin 13 and if ur engine isnt strong enough tahts death just cause u only wanted one gauge.

WTF ?? 2 boost gauges ? y not just start out w/ one that's known to be accurate instead of having to buy another one ? he's not looking for a boost controller. he's asking about a turbo timer. and i can't help but say this: spell check please.

spoolup
12-03-2003, 01:27 AM
yea sorry bout the spelling errors. I didnt think it was a big deal. As long as ppl understand what im saying its cool. But i was just saying that any meter you buy is not going to be as accurate as you're going to want it to be. There will be an error factor regardless. Its just safer to have another one.

Bullit
12-03-2003, 01:35 AM
Still wondering if anybody has had experience with using the boost gauge on the Blitz? Does it respond as quickly as a regular gauge would?

Thanks,

Geoffsurfs
12-03-2003, 01:02 PM
huh

Geoffsurfs
12-03-2003, 07:45 PM
doesnt the blitz read in bars though? How can you compare two different types of gauges?

Heathen23
12-03-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Bullit
Still wondering if anybody has had experience with using the boost gauge on the Blitz? Does it respond as quickly as a regular gauge would?

Thanks,

It's digital as opposed to analog so in some measures it would be equally or more accurate.

doesnt the blitz read in bars though? How can you compare two different types of gauges

After a few references to this site;

http://www.centauro-owners.com/articles/psibar.html

you don't even need a converter because you have it memorized.

Bullit
12-03-2003, 08:01 PM
How do you find looking at the display on your TT while driving? I just ordered up the same TT and a Hallmon MBC and can't wait to install it.

krillin
12-03-2003, 08:03 PM
Greddy Full Auto Timer :O

TurboMan
12-03-2003, 08:06 PM
I would like to buy a turbo timer, but as far as I know, nobody has been able to get the stock alarm to work properly with the turbo timer without tapping the lines far out in the engine compartment.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but getting a turbo timer seems pretty pointless if you're gonna have to go back to where you park your car like 3 minutes later to actually arm the alarm system.

Heathen23
12-03-2003, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Bullit
How do you find looking at the display on your TT while driving? I just ordered up the same TT and a Hallmon MBC and can't wait to install it.

Looking at the road while driving is over-rated.

Honestly, when setting the boost levels I recommend a co-pilot to capture and accurate spike point while you are at WOT. Once it's set you find plenty of opportunites to glance at it but it's no where as convinient as a pillar gauge for constantly watching over boost levels.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but getting a turbo timer seems pretty pointless if you're gonna have to go back to where you park your car like 3 minutes later to actually arm the alarm system

3 minutes huh? What TT is that? A turkey thermometer? 30 seconds is about at max temps for me so about the time I get to the edge of the alarm's range it's shut off and I set it. Works quite well. When I'm not in a location that warrants the alarm I simply press the lock button on my way out.

Bullit
12-03-2003, 08:15 PM
Is what TurboMan said true? Is there a problem with the factory alarm using a TT?

Heathen, do you have problems with the stock alarm or is there a certain way it has to be wired up?

Thx,

lastsaga
12-04-2003, 04:02 AM
basically, you can't arm the car while it's still running. makes sense, right? try pressing your lock+arming button while the key is still in the ignition. wouldn't make sense to arm the car while you're still "in it".

you CAN do some kind of modification to the alarm so that it will arm while your car is running, but firstly, the sensitivity won't be able to be set as high. second, if you press the arming button accidently while you're driving, the alarm will start going off while you're on the road.

that's about as much as i know about it.

Black Majik MSP
12-04-2003, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
A compustar remote starter/ alarm that has a TT built in.

To my knowledge, these are illegal on manual tranny cars. Or at that's what this guy I know told me (that they are only supposed to do automagic).

1sty
12-04-2003, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Black Majik MSP
To my knowledge, these are illegal on manual tranny cars. Or at that's what this guy I know told me (that they are only supposed to do automagic).

There not illegal, atleast not federaly, install shops just say that so they don't have to take the liability of installing them. Its a store policy typicly not a law.

Also there is no problem doing one on a protege as you don't have to use the starter function at all. YOu can use just the TT and alarm. Also if you do use the starter its perfectly safe with the protege as we have a nuetral safety trigger wire that senses when the car is in gear, so the car won't start in gear.

03MSPRO
12-04-2003, 07:30 AM
People be aware of some problems with the TT. Now, I am having to find out that you need to work on a "technique" to shut the car off for the TT to work all the time, wtf? Why did anybody say anything about this? I am working on a solution right now.

TT is NOT pointess!1 I can see my car from my office so it is nice to let it idle and when it shuts off I arm the alarm from my office. Same time when I get home. I only wish it would work all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!@#$%^*^*&^&%&()((&&%^%$#@@

freekwonder
12-04-2003, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by Black Majik MSP
To my knowledge, these are illegal on manual tranny cars. Or at that's what this guy I know told me (that they are only supposed to do automagic).

actually the compustar alarm is designed for manual transmissions, i had one on my mp3. what you had to do was get the alarm in "reserve" mode before you could remote start it.
the trick was when you go to your destiation, put the car in nuteral, let off brake, apply e-brake, take keys out of ignition (car will stay running) get out of the car, and the car will shut off when you close the door. if you didn't do all that in that order the car wouldnt be in "reserve" mode and you cant remote start it.

and if you are in reserve mode and the alarm is turned off or the alarm is set off, it cancles the reserve mode. The place i talked to about my old compustar said they only had one problem with the alarm, some one tried to start his truck, it was in gear and jump and hit another car. Compustar came out looked at the problem, found it was a defect in that alarm and fixed both vehicles and gave the guy a new alarm.

spacemonkey
12-04-2003, 09:29 AM
Hadn't hook mine up yet but I got a Blitz FATT. It suppose to measures cabin temp and volts. It only cost me $80 and its has a remote that you can mount on your dash...while the "brain box can be hidden.

Oh it also has fake carbon fiber trim!

GotBoost
12-04-2003, 09:35 AM
i've got the Blitz FATT DCIII as well. I find it to be a rather large convenience.

03MSPRO
12-04-2003, 11:26 AM
My TT is fixed now. The wiring was wrong because someone on this board had the wires mixed up on his instructions

spacemonkey
12-04-2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by 03MSPRO
My TT is fixed now. The wiring was wrong because someone on this board had the wires mixed up on his instructions

I posted about this problem too and no one answered back.

Yeah I noticed that my Blitz instructions are diffrent from the board instruction...its not a biggie but it says the accessory wire and the ignition wire should be switched.

Blitz instructions
TT / Protege wiring harness
Red= 12V constant (red)
Green= Ignition wire (blue)
Blue= accessory wire (black and white)

Instructions on this site
TT / Protege wiring harness
Red= 12V constant (red)
Green= accessory wire(black and white)
Blue= Ignition wire (blue)

Im probally going to go with what this forums says...but I was just wondering if you had the same problem. The instruction on the forums make more sense then the Blitz Manual.

Geoffsurfs
12-04-2003, 05:24 PM
yeah, can somebody please post the real directions?
I think im gonna get the blittz dcIII.

1sty
12-04-2003, 11:42 PM
Read Greg S posts:
http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28123&perpage=15&highlight=turbo%20timer&pagenumber=2

spacemonkey
12-05-2003, 06:13 PM
Geoffsurfs,

I finally got my Turbo Timer installed and its Badass! The only problem is the Cabin temp is displayed in Celsius... That fake carbon fiber trim gives my car a really fast look...it feels fast too.

The instruction on this thred (http://www.msprotege.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=34787&highlight=Turbo+timer+installation) are slightly diffrent. Some of the wiring are mixed up. I'm not sure if it was a typo or if HKS's wiring harness is a bit diffrent from Blitz's wiring harness.

I used the Blitz Manual for installation and followed the wiring diagram on this site:

http://webpages.charter.net/jesser/BlitzTTInstall/

So with that said this is what I did.

Blitz instructions
TT / Protege wiring harness
Red= 12V constant (red)
Green= Ignition wire (blue)
Blue= accessory wire (black and white)

Anotehr site that might help you installtion: http://your-mom.kicks-ass.net/msp/mazdaspeed/other_sites/kiva75/blitz_dual_turbo_timer_install.htm

If you need any help on direction for installing your Blitz Turbo timer...you can PM me.

Geoffsurfs
12-08-2003, 05:22 PM
Nice find! Thanks alot for your help.
Now all i have to do is wait till December 25.

krillin
12-14-2003, 07:48 PM
i've been told that ppl have to manually lock their cars while their tt's are counting down. it's weird cuz i can lock my car manually AND with my remote while the car is running/tt counting down. ./me shrugs :O

Geoffsurfs
12-14-2003, 08:01 PM
wierd

rs200
12-14-2003, 08:04 PM
i'm special ^_^

EDIT: this is krillin. OOPS.