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Welp, its been a great 6 month journey with my msp... well all except this last month were i am having to replace the motor.. I am going to be moving out on my own in a few months and really just cant afford this car anymore. So i'll be going upside down getting a new car, for lower payments etc... its not the end of the world.. im not worried about it.
i haven't decided what im going to get, but whatever it is.. needs to be under 10 grand, that way when i go under on my car the new car will still be under 15 - 16 grand leaving my payments below 300 at least.
So im trying to decide what i should get now.
i been looking at several different things i just cant decide.
i'll eventually figure it out.
anyways just wanted to let you guys know i wont be surfin the board no more.. no real reason to be here.. goodluck to you all.. enjoy the speed..
peace
Bijou-MP5
11-20-2003, 01:15 PM
get mazda3... it's under 16K :D stay with mazda ;)
jred321
11-20-2003, 01:17 PM
get a 99 eclipse gsx, or a 98 talon tsi
Originally posted by Bijou-MP5
get mazda3... it's under 16K :D stay with mazda ;)
has to be under 16 after i flip upside down from the msp... so i have to get a car under 10 grand ;)
Originally posted by jred321
get a 99 eclipse gsx, or a 98 talon tsi
yeah i really like them but i dont want awd.. i'd rather just have a turbo eclipse.
Bijou-MP5
11-20-2003, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Ryan
has to be under 16 after i flip upside down from the msp... so i have to get a car under 10 grand ;)
ouch.... how about used p5? hmm...maybe not since you still have msp payments left....
wanger68
11-20-2003, 01:20 PM
find a 3rd gen protege... that should be under 10... then you won't have to leave the boards... and then when things get better for ya, you can always hook it up, and you'll exactly where to go for help!
p5's not my style i like em just not for me... protege's are to slow for me.. i want something thats perferably turbo.
KYMP5
11-20-2003, 01:23 PM
get a used dsm. anyway it was good to meet you in knoxville and having you on the boards. at least stop back by and let us know what you end up with
jred321
11-20-2003, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Ryan
yeah i really like them but i dont want awd.. i'd rather just have a turbo eclipse.
one awd launch will change your mind :)
if not, they make both of those in fwd ;) just stay away from early 2g's
Got_boost02
11-20-2003, 01:28 PM
what'd you have to replace the motor for?
FlannelBoy711
11-20-2003, 01:28 PM
just incase, theres a protege 5 on ebay for buy now at 6600 and its not tweety or anime car. needs a lil work
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2444131199&category=6326
Gbourdon
11-20-2003, 01:30 PM
I know someone who is selling a 94 Integera GSR for 4 grand. It has a new Maaco paint job on it. TenzoR full stainless exhaust, neuspeed intake, header, stage II clutch, TenzoR 17in gunmetal wheels, shogun body kit. It is in massachussetts though. The car has 161K on it too. Also has the CL conversion (headlights)
iLisa
11-20-2003, 01:34 PM
keep in touch.
DeanSweet
11-20-2003, 01:36 PM
ouch, that PR5 on eBay must of been hit hard b/c hte top strut brace is bent due to the wheel housing/strut mount is pushed back? Frame damage... expect to put a bunch of money into it to get it 'roadworthy' and more than likely never be safe again. Sucks to be in that position being that far upside down in a car. You could get a signature loan to cover the difference because more than likely no bank is gunn allow you to buy a <$10k car and finance $15-16k.... maybe look for an 88-95 Civic turbo to replace it?
Turbo Matty P
11-20-2003, 01:39 PM
hey hey hey!!! I've got a nice little civic for sale for $5K. check my previous threads for info....if you're interested I'll go ahead and install the jackson racing supercharger and new clutch for ya...Of course the price will bump up a good bit, but still be under $10. if you're interested let me know.
AnthonyO3
11-20-2003, 02:09 PM
Get a 240SX fastback, do the Sr20 swap, upgrade the internals and nothing on the street will be able to touch you. You can find a 240sx for about 2000(one that is in excellent condition) and another 2000 for the motor, and plus another 2000 for upgrades for the motor you are looking at $6000 and one fast ass car. Hell get the RB26DETT motor from the skyline and drop that into the 240. Somebody did that on 240sxforums.com and with only slicks, FMIC, BOV, Boost controller,Turbo Timer, and Guages they hit the low 11's!!!!!
jred321
11-20-2003, 02:12 PM
you can get over 300whp reliably (record is over 400whp) on stock internals on an sr20, no need to upgrade those right away unless you just want to do it because the motor is out of the car. but that is a good option to consider if you don't need to drive much in winter.
i wouldn't go with an rb26dett swap though if i wanted to swap an rb in, the rb25det is a much easier swap and will make more than enough power
subachad
11-20-2003, 02:12 PM
It's not fast, but they are fun and there is a Ken Style Body Kit that would make it look good and a factory supercharger on the way...
SCION!!!
03MSPRO
11-20-2003, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Got_boost02
what'd you have to replace the motor for?
yashooa
11-20-2003, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by 03MSPRO
Why motor no worky?
He went all MAD with the boost during or after some kind of car show. I think he said it was fine until around the 16PSI range.
He had it in a thread somewhere.
Cirielle
11-20-2003, 11:31 PM
You could get a used MSP....I here they aren't going for shit these days!!!
(laugh)
Sorry...had to put something smart ass in!
Why don't you try to refinance your car...then the payments may be cheaper...depending of course on your interest rate that you had and the one that you will get.
Considering he only has had it for 6 months I doubt refinancing will do much.
For $10K maybe you can find someone with a 98 integra that doesn't know what they are really worth. Its sproty and extreamly reliable plus its resale is one of the best in the country.
Or maybe a 2001 protege es :D, If you can find a dumb dealer then you can keep the turbo, suspension and LSD :D
122 Vega
11-20-2003, 11:46 PM
I got my MSP in January, just refinanced it and save $150 per month. Dropped from the dealer's shitty 8.9% to nice credit Union 4.0%. My payment is just over $300. Maybe keep the car replace with forged internals for cheaper than a new motor, then learn a lesson and go mild on it and enjoy it.
Britt
no... cant do that either...
gonna have to take a signature loan to fix my car.. a 3500 one.. that adds another hundred to the car payment that i have now... so instead of paying 485 a month i'd be paying 585 just towards my car...
refinancing wouldn't save me much considering i owe 22,550 on the car and my original loan was 25,000 yeah i got raped i know it but i wanted the car... anyways.. thats beside the point.
i am figuring on going with a 97 eclipse gs-t i can get one around 7-9 depending on what all is wrong with it..
after going upside down with the msp the car value of the loan on the car i get now will be 14-15k and my payment running me around 250 - 300.. which until i pay off the 3500 loan the payment will actually be 350 - 400.
refinancing will not work.. i'll still be on the upwards of 500 bucks...
ontop of that i'll be moving out on my own with my girlfriend, and i just cant afford to have a car payment that high.
thanks for the support guys much appreciated... i dont plan to buy anything over the net or states away. I got a local guy here that can get me just about any car i want through auctions and things he goes too.. i dont care if the car is a little beat up i can always repair the little thing...
l8r.
Ryan
why not stay put for a few more months and pick up a part time job to get some more capitol saved up?
jred321
11-21-2003, 01:05 AM
97-98 talons look so much better than eclipses (they're cheaper too), get one of those instead :)
jred321
11-21-2003, 01:26 AM
http://www.dsmtuners.com/gallery/data/500/5765talonfront6_widescreen_.jpg
http://www.dsmtuners.com/gallery/data/500/5765Talon11_chopped_.JPG
http://members.shaw.ca/nuana/dsm/DSCF0018-64.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid72/pc29b1dabf82fc5df37ee7e87d30f75c5/fb7e2b3a.jpg
and a thread with some more http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98250&perpage=40&highlight=2gb%20talon&pagenumber=1
i just love the front end on these cars, and you will save at least a grand over an eclipse, they're just harder to find
Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
why not stay put for a few more months and pick up a part time job to get some more capitol saved up?
no way no how... i barely have enuf time to do the 19 hours of college plus 40 hours a week at work... and to try to through a parttime job in there yeah right.. just isn't possible for me.. besides i have always loved the eclipse / talons...
either would suit me problem is goign to be trying ot find a turbo one that hasn't been ragged out..
l8r.
EXA4DRIVER
11-21-2003, 02:07 AM
EG6 Civic shell with a B18C5 swap. Way under 10K, very reliable, easily runs 13's.
Considering your place in life right now, I would hihgly advise getting something more reliable then a 98 talon. Since your moving out with your women and already are in a shit load in debt becuase of the car then you should either wait to move or get something cheap and reliable.
Dexter
11-21-2003, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
Considering your place in life right now, I would hihgly advise getting something more reliable then a 98 talon. Since your moving out with your women and already are in a shit load in debt becuase of the car then you should either wait to move or get something cheap and reliable.
just becuz im getting a 97 eclipse gts or a talon doesn't mean im gonna mod the fuck out of it... wont have the cash to do anything to it really so how would it not be reliable....
It has nothing to do with mods, its just not a reliable car. Poor reliability cost money, not to mention you will be payiong alot more for insurance depeding on your insurance company.
Turbo Matty P
11-21-2003, 02:13 AM
hey man, worried about buying a car over the net?? I'm in Birmingham, I'll drive it up to ya! My civic is pretty nice to. It's super cheap on insurance and gas, doesn't cost but half what you're looking to spend and has all maintaince up to date. Every belt, hose, filter and fluid has been replaced within 1K miles. Can't beat that, plus the car is sporty. Want boost? I can install the jackson racing SC and new clutch at my cost.....This car has everything you're looking for except maybe a turbo....if you're interested PM me....if not someone please buy this car from me! I hear my turbo a-calling me!
EXA4DRIVER
11-21-2003, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by 1st MP3 in NH
It has nothing to do with mods, its just not a reliable car. Poor reliability cost money, not to mention you will be payiong alot more for insurance depeding on your insurance company.
Exactly. I bought a brand new 1998 model year GS-T in 1997, and only kept the car 3 years becasue the head gasket went bad after 27,000 miles. It was a fast and fun car, but not very reliable.
http://protege5.com/vbb230/attachment.php?s=&postid=476461
LADY MSPD
11-21-2003, 02:40 AM
i wouldnt get a dsm there realiability sucks they break down alot...did you ever think about 88-92 1st gen mx6's there fwd and they come turbo, there nice looking cars and rare too.....check this out http://members.cardomain.com/sleeper6 thats my husbands car... you can pick them up for cheap and still have some money to mod the car....
Turbo Matty P
11-21-2003, 02:40 AM
EXA, you said it was fast and fun.....but was it also furious? If not then I feel misled!
mspeedpro
11-21-2003, 03:01 AM
lol misled... :-) got any pics of ur civic and sum more info?? im not interested to buy but im just curious =-X
Turbo Matty P
11-21-2003, 03:06 AM
www.carsdirect.com do a search for honda civic near area code 35114....you'll see it!
mspdfreak
11-21-2003, 07:28 AM
This is probably nothing you have in mind, but it might be worth a thought. I have a '92 GEO Prism sitting in my driveway right now. Yeah, it's not pretty...the paint is faded (red) and it has 114,000 miles, but it's reliable, never been abused and blows cold air. I'm asking $1000. I had a girl at work wanting to buy it, but she can't come up with the cash.
Anyway, it's no prize, but I'm confident it will get you where you need to go for at least a couple of years. And at this price, you'll be able to save money alot faster for your next car. Regardless, good luck with whatever you decide.
mspeedpro
11-21-2003, 11:54 AM
can i ask a favor?? please dont get rid of ur msp home page b/c its got sum great how-tos i plan to use in the next 6 months? plllleeeaaassseee?
jred321
11-21-2003, 12:05 PM
yea, dsm's aren't known for reliability, but they are really easy and cheap to work on when they do break :)
Turbo Matty P
11-21-2003, 12:11 PM
rest assured at 90/k miles you'll be rebuilding the head. You might as well. You've got to replace the valve stem seals and check clearances....I'd just have the head compltely built up!
EXA4DRIVER
11-21-2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by Turbo Matty P
EXA, you said it was fast and fun.....but was it also furious? If not then I feel misled!
Nah man :) It wasn't furious :)
kwiktsi
11-21-2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by EXA4DRIVER
Exactly. I bought a brand new 1998 model year GS-T in 1997, and only kept the car 3 years becasue the head gasket went bad after 27,000 miles. It was a fast and fun car, but not very reliable.
http://protege5.com/vbb230/attachment.php?s=&postid=476461
You had a head gasket go bad on a GST? I have never had a 4G63 headgasket fail from anything besides overboosting or detonation. They don't just go. What did you do :)?? lol. Now if you had an NT with the Neon motor, they are notorious for head gasket issues.
Anyway- Ryan- 97 is the WORST year for crank walk, so be careful :). The 99's are the best from what I had seen, but I have been out of the loop for a while now.
Joe
kwiktsi
11-21-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by LADY MSPD
i wouldnt get a dsm there realiability sucks they break down alot...did you ever think about 88-92 1st gen mx6's there fwd and they come turbo, there nice looking cars and rare too.....check this out http://members.cardomain.com/sleeper6 thats my husbands car... you can pick them up for cheap and still have some money to mod the car....
No offense, but a 1st gen turbo MX6 has more reliability issues than a DSM. It all depends on maintainence (sp?). People think they can get into a 100K mile DSM and flog the snot out of it because it is fast then cry when the timing belt they never changed broke or the break an axle launching it, or the stock clutch can't handle 21 psi of boost or whatever- I have seen/heard it all :). One of my DSM's I had for 3 years- it was a 90 TSi, I got it with 145K miles on it and had it until 197K- the car ran mid 11's the whole time on the original motor and trans :)...
The MX6 motor hardly has any potential compared to the DSM also. It is all personal preference though, I have just seen too many Turbo Probe GT projects get abandoned because they turned out to be a waste of time and the people stepped up to a DSM.
However, even the DSM's are old news now if you want to be different :). Everybody and their brother has a wannabe DSM race car with a muffler and BOV driving around like it is TF&TF :). The fast guys either keep to themselves or have moved on to other cars.. But I do like the looks of the 2G still!!!
Joe
jred321
11-21-2003, 01:17 PM
i thought 95-96 was the worst for crankwalk, 97 only slightly better, and 98-99 not as bad?
jred321
11-21-2003, 01:19 PM
you could swap an fe3t into a 1g mx6/pgt turbo, that's on par with the 4g63 :)
kwiktsi
11-21-2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by jred321
i thought 95-96 was the worst for crankwalk, 97 only slightly better, and 98-99 not as bad?
I have hardly seen any 95's with it.. Maybe a handful.. I have seen a TON of 97's with it- every 97 I have bought (about 6) had it and most of my customers 97's when I had my shop needed a rebuild also.. I have heard of some in 98, but last I heard there were no 99's- but that was a while ago, like I said- I have been out of the loop a while. They upgraded the thrust bearing in later models (either 98 or 99) and it was working well last I heard (about 2 years ago).
Joe
kwiktsi
11-21-2003, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by jred321
you could swap an fe3t into a 1g mx6/pgt turbo, that's on par with the 4g63 :)
No you're talking :).
Joe
Sloop
11-21-2003, 04:51 PM
My 97 GS-T had crankwalk, completely stock. My brothers 95 GS-T also had crankwalk. When you drive the 95 - 99 DSM's just know what you are looking for. My engine was replaced under warranty (took some time) and my bro's well was replaced with a 1st gen bottom end and modded to hell. He still has the car and has not had a problem since 2001.
Try and look for a 91 - 93 Galant VR-4. They are sleepers if I ever saw one. AWD with the 1st gen motor and that fantastic 14B turbo. You could probably find one pretty cheap if you look hard.
kwiktsi
11-21-2003, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Sloop
My 97 GS-T had crankwalk, completely stock. My brothers 95 GS-T also had crankwalk. When you drive the 95 - 99 DSM's just know what you are looking for. My engine was replaced under warranty (took some time) and my bro's well was replaced with a 1st gen bottom end and modded to hell. He still has the car and has not had a problem since 2001.
Try and look for a 91 - 93 Galant VR-4. They are sleepers if I ever saw one. AWD with the 1st gen motor and that fantastic 14B turbo. You could probably find one pretty cheap if you look hard.
Just curious- either of those two cars have a clutch replaced prior to the CW? I am just curious though because improperly adjusted clutches was part of the problem I was finding a few years back...
Joe
Sloop
11-21-2003, 07:09 PM
Yes sir,
Both had the clutches replaced. My 97 was replaced with a factory and the 95 was a Centerforce DF. The 95 still has the DF and it is holding up very well. The cluch pedal on the 97 was literally hitting the floor. I loved the car and will own an EVO eventually.
kwiktsi
11-21-2003, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Sloop
Yes sir,
Both had the clutches replaced. My 97 was replaced with a factory and the 95 was a Centerforce DF. The 95 still has the DF and it is holding up very well. The cluch pedal on the 97 was literally hitting the floor. I loved the car and will own an EVO eventually.
See :).... The 2G has a VERY touchy clutch adjustment- it will seem fine, then after depressing the clutch a few times, it will "pump up" and hold pressure against the pressure plate which in turn trashes the thrust bearing fromt he excess load.. Just one theory, but i still believe it is a combination of things- clutch adjustment being up top on the list though.
Joe
Kooldino
11-21-2003, 07:57 PM
2G protege. ;)
LADY MSPD
11-22-2003, 02:23 AM
(QUOTE)No offense, but a 1st gen turbo MX6 has more reliability issues than a DSM. It all depends on maintainence (sp?). People think they can get into a 100K mile DSM and flog the snot out of it because it is fast then cry when the timing belt they never changed broke or the break an axle launching it, or the stock clutch can't handle 21 psi of boost or whatever- I have seen/heard it all . One of my DSM's I had for 3 years- it was a 90 TSi, I got it with 145K miles on it and had it until 197K- the car ran mid 11's the whole time on the original motor and trans ...
The MX6 motor hardly has any potential compared to the DSM also. It is all personal preference though, I have just seen too many Turbo Probe GT projects get abandoned because they turned out to be a waste of time and the people stepped up to a DSM.
However, even the DSM's are old news now if you want to be different . Everybody and their brother has a wannabe DSM race car with a muffler and BOV driving around like it is TF&TF . The fast guys either keep to themselves or have moved on to other cars.. But I do like the looks of the 2G still!!! (Quote)
there not realiable???? my husband has 190k now and he is boosting 16psi daily driven on original motor, tranny and turbo, we even take his car on long drives to visit his family in san francisco, two of his buddies have mx6's one with 315k on original motor and tranny with boost set to 14psi and the other with 225k also with original motor and tranny with boost set to 16psi and with the same mods as my husband.......on the other hand my husband wanted a gsx eclips for a 2nd car but his buddie with a eclips blew his turbo @12psi and he had a bunch of leaks,he also met one guy that ownd a gsx he said that he took that thing to every mechanic they still couldnt get it to run right...dsms are power for a limited time....
go to mx6.com ask them how realiable the 1st gens are they'll tell you...look for the guy that works for racingmazda his name is rick he as a mx6 full interior stock motor(f2t) daily driven running 12.6....or go to racingmazda.com and email rick....1st gen mx6s are one of the most under rated cars.....no one really knows about them thats what makes them so badass!!!=)
hrm wow turns to the battle of who is who... i am refiguring the number and maybe i can pull a refinance job on the msp... just not sure... dunno what i wanna do depending on how well it runs after this new motor is put in... if all is cosher then i'll keep it... if not... looks like i'll turn to the rice mobiles...
i got a friend that can get me a 96+ hatchback for around 1800 he said if i get it to get a loan for 3500 turn around 400 buy a crv motor, and about another 400 to have it installed... get i think he said a integra tranny for 600 (installed) and a new head, and with a little weight reduction i'd be in the 13's... but i dunno if i could ride around in something like that....
i was thinking more along the lines of like... 00-03 civic, and swap a h22a motor and then h23a head. keep the appearance stock, tha'd be one hell of a sleeper...
shrugs..
Black Majik MSP
11-22-2003, 04:58 AM
No offense & I never really knew you, but if you really were a "Complete Protege Junkie" like your avatar says, I don't think you would just abandon this site once you sold your MSP. Who are you selling it to? I cringe everytime I think of someone selling their MSP to some other dealer who probably won't appreciate it or take care of it. Anyway, I hope you get to keep the speed, but either way, good luck.
EDIT: I realize that title may be the one given to you automatically by the site (because Joe has the same one), but you most people personalize theirs. If you didn't agree with it, I assume you would have changed it.
charles
11-22-2003, 12:02 PM
I'm surprised nobody suggested this to you.
If you want a cheap reliable car, and want to stay in the realm of FWD Mazdas, get a 90-94 Protege LX 5-speed. I got mine for $1000, but it wasn't in the best of shape. It's just as fast or faster than an MP3, stock. If you're willing to put more money into it, you can make it faster than an MSP by turboing it. 400whp on stock internals, if you want, too. No need to go forged internals like with the FS.
DiscreetSpeed
11-22-2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Ryan
Welp, its been a great 6 month journey with my msp... well all except this last month were i am having to replace the motor.. I am going to be moving out on my own in a few months and really just cant afford this car anymore. So i'll be going upside down getting a new car, for lower payments etc... its not the end of the world.. im not worried about it.
i haven't decided what im going to get, but whatever it is.. needs to be under 10 grand, that way when i go under on my car the new car will still be under 15 - 16 grand leaving my payments below 300 at least.
So im trying to decide what i should get now.
i been looking at several different things i just cant decide.
i'll eventually figure it out.
anyways just wanted to let you guys know i wont be surfin the board no more.. no real reason to be here.. goodluck to you all.. enjoy the speed..
peace
damn man sorry to hear it.....R.I.P
Originally posted by Black Majik MSP
No offense & I never really knew you, but if you really were a "Complete Protege Junkie" like your avatar says, I don't think you would just abandon this site once you sold your MSP. Who are you selling it to? I cringe everytime I think of someone selling their MSP to some other dealer who probably won't appreciate it or take care of it. Anyway, I hope you get to keep the speed, but either way, good luck.
EDIT: I realize that title may be the one given to you automatically by the site (because Joe has the same one), but you most people personalize theirs. If you didn't agree with it, I assume you would have changed it.
was given by the site never changed it cuz i never thought the day would come. ;) and if you read it.. i said i might try refinancing...
if not im dumping it.. and why would i want to continue on the site without the car... that is a waste of time at that point when i will be on another forum that is for the new car that i get see what im getting at i realize some stay... but i am not like that..
like i said b4 im going to try to keep it if i can.. if not i have other options.
batmang
11-22-2003, 04:22 PM
WALKING CRANK = BAD
read up on that before getting an eclipse. if i were you id get a 240sx.
Originally posted by batmang
WALKING CRANK = BAD
read up on that before getting an eclipse. if i were you id get a 240sx.
240sx not my style.
i more than likely will do the plan i listed above either the hatchback or a new civic dunno yet.
first and formost gonna try to keep the msp.
Glowmunkey
11-22-2003, 05:00 PM
May I suggest a Sentra SE-R?? Classics are the best, but hard to find in good shape. 94-97's will also do. 98's deleted the VLSD tranny so that's a waste, unless you're willing to spend a little more on a phantom grip or something to that effect.
Swap in a nice SR20DET and have a ball! They can be bought for around $1700 or $1900 for an SR20VE.
If you must have a 4 door, you could try out an Infiniti G20. Similar car (different platform and frame/body), same swap.
just dont care for the body style of the sentra.... hence why i like the msp so much kick ass body style plus its quick... hopefully i can just keep the car....
mspeedpro
11-22-2003, 06:39 PM
orange msp is the best car for the money, ur right Ryan =)
Its simple. Sell your car and get one that is reliable and easy to fix, not one that is easily modified or perfomance oriented.
Your just stepping out on your own and trust me you will need every dime you have becuase shit does and will happen.
You need every bit of back up cash you can get. Remember its you and your women now so you have a responsibility to her.
I thought I had enough put away when I bought my house but I had enough to fix my furnace and then had to work alot of overtime to afford the car I just bought. I finaly recover from that and save up a shit load. I schedual my car for some serious upgrades and now my company can't afford to pay me and my checking acount is $2K in the hole!!! Luckily I had almost that saved in my savings account and could match the rest with some saved coins I had been keeping for a rainy day. NOw I have basicly nothing and my morgage is do next week ($1500). I am seriously FUCKED!
Again my only point is to buy reliablity, buy as inexpensive as possible. You will need every dime you can save now.
DiscreetSpeed
11-22-2003, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Ryan
just dont care for the body style of the sentra.... hence why i like the msp so much kick ass body style plus its quick... hopefully i can just keep the car....
ya and when you commin down, got some new toys that'll bring your head back...lol
Turbo Matty P
11-22-2003, 11:50 PM
should go and buy a brand new Kia Rio.....$7K for a brand new car with 100K miile warranty....I'm thinking about picking one up if I sell my civic....just use it as a beater while I finixh my other cars. Let's be honest, Kia isn't a household name yet, but those cars are pretty good for what they are.
Originally posted by Turbo Matty P
should go and buy a brand new Kia Rio.....$7K for a brand new car with 100K miile warranty....I'm thinking about picking one up if I sell my civic....just use it as a beater while I finixh my other cars. Let's be honest, Kia isn't a household name yet, but those cars are pretty good for what they are.
and every bit as reliable as a tuperware bowl ;)..
motor is plastic..
Turbo Matty P
11-23-2003, 01:46 AM
you mean the intake manifold is plastic....so is ford, chevrolet, toyota.....
also, why is reliability a concern with a 100K mile powertrain warranty???
SpicyMchaggis
11-23-2003, 01:48 AM
dude i'll trade you my 2k2 DX for your MSP out right
Originally posted by Turbo Matty P
you mean the intake manifold is plastic....so is ford, chevrolet, toyota.....
also, why is reliability a concern with a 100K mile powertrain warranty???
no no no... that was a joke man.. geezus goto the kia dealership pop the hood,, all u'll see is plastic ;)
Originally posted by SpicyMchaggis
dude i'll trade you my 2k2 DX for your MSP out right
um...
no!
Turbo Matty P
11-23-2003, 01:53 AM
i know....a lot of companies are using plastic intake manifolds now...I kinda like em! They are lighter and release heat faster. Also they are a little easier to port. .Don't let the plastic cladding fool you, they are actually pretty peppy cars. I'd like one....put some dubs on it, neons....I'd be both fast and furious.
Originally posted by Turbo Matty P
i know....a lot of companies are using plastic intake manifolds now...I kinda like em! They are lighter and release heat faster. Also they are a little easier to port. .Don't let the plastic cladding fool you, they are actually pretty peppy cars. I'd like one....put some dubs on it, neons....I'd be both fast and furious.
LOL... r u mexican? j/k
Turbo Matty P
11-23-2003, 01:57 AM
hahaha, nope just trying to fit in with this crowd!
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