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Newf
11-19-2003, 10:13 AM
How is everyone finding their cars after the flash? Mine is eating it. granted, it is colder now, and I'm somewhat of a lead foot since the flash :) but even when I try to take it easy ( very hard to do ) she still seems to swallow alot of gas

I dont' know if I should blame it on myself, or the flash, or cold weather.....and it's not really that cold yet...we have no snow.

1338
11-19-2003, 10:38 AM
yea im aslo noticing that i noticed that a week after i had the flash.

MSPRO
11-19-2003, 10:47 AM
i was told i have the flash but it seems to hesitate sometimes so im going to double check . anyways i checked my mileage and its between like 23-26. The 26 was like 4 hours of a 7 hour highway drive, so I figured it would have done better that that. Oh well lol

Stormtrooper77
11-19-2003, 10:49 AM
Newf, how many km's per tank are you getting?

TigrMsP
11-19-2003, 11:33 AM
Quick question... kinda off topic, kinda not.

How do I go about explaining to a dealership about the flash if they have no clue about it? Is there somewhere I can point them to? Webpage? Phone number?


I'd like to get it done, but the only dealership close to me has no clue yet.

BremertonMSP
11-19-2003, 12:02 PM
My milage is about the same post flash. I'm getting about 300 miles out of a tank of gas. That's all city driving. I don't do much H/W driving. But I'll find out when I go down to Portland for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

BTW, the 300 miles is on about 12.5 gal of gas. 24mpg city driving. That's about what the advertised mpg was for city isn't it?

Turbo Matty P
11-19-2003, 12:05 PM
currently I'm at 365miles on this tank...Coming back from the beach 4.5hour drive I managed 29mpg. Not great, but lots of fun.

funnylittlman
11-19-2003, 12:20 PM
22 all the time in the city

26 on the highway...

Just like it says on the window sticker. Another guy here got 28 around town.. I'm like WTF.... I want that kinda gas mileage

Tommy1005
11-19-2003, 12:41 PM
I get about 26 in the city, and about the same on the highway. Ofcourse part of that could be cruising at 90+ down the freeway, but either way it's still more than the 16 I get when I take my truck on the freeway, and the 10-12 around town.

yashooa
11-19-2003, 12:55 PM
I usually get about the upper 390's to the lower 400's out of around 12 gallons but it takes effort...
All slow lane highway driving it aint pretty but it does save gas.
I normally stay in the 30-36MPG range. Warning this driving style has extremely BORING consequences.

03MSP
11-19-2003, 12:57 PM
I had one tank where I would not shift above 3000, I tried for 2500 all the time and ended with 27 mpg with all city driving. But that isn't fun, so I usually get around 23-24; I can handle that because I need to have some fun with her:D

Stormtrooper77
11-19-2003, 01:21 PM
Off topic? But anyway, anyone know what is left in the tank when the gas light comes on? The manual tells me nothing. Actually it's a pretty shitty manual. It doesn't even tell you what kind of headlight bulbs to use. I had to find it here.

mazdadan
11-19-2003, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Stormtrooper77
Off topic? But anyway, anyone know what is left in the tank when the gas light comes on? The manual tells me nothing. Actually it's a pretty shitty manual. It doesn't even tell you what kind of headlight bulbs to use. I had to find it here.

It is supposed to be around 3 gallons. This is at least what the manual says for US cars. The figure seemed pretty acurate because I could put about 11.5-12 gallons of gas in when the light came on. The tank is 14.5 gallons.

1338
11-19-2003, 01:28 PM
when my light came on last night i went about 25-30 miles with it on and still made it to the gas station.

ddogg777
11-19-2003, 01:50 PM
I can always put in about 12.5 gallons with the light on steady. That means two gallons, or 50 miles, left in her to find a station.

YuYuRena
11-19-2003, 01:50 PM
28~29 avg. Drivign normal highway cruising about 65-70 shift mostly before 2.5~3k. Gas up at 1/4 of tank left on gas dial ~ 11.5 gallons.

Swerny
11-19-2003, 02:09 PM
Hey Newf, i also feel like my mileage has been worse since the flash, although it may also be due to having all the fun i can with the car before the snow gets here.
Has anyone else noted more soot (black stuff) on their tailpipe post flash? To me, that wold mean more unburnt fuel, so the car is running richer ? is that possible ?

Leadfoot
11-19-2003, 02:18 PM
Actually, my MPG went up a bit after the flash. I was gettin' around 20 before, now I get closer to 25, with the same driving style & roads. My best was pre-flash, got around 35 MPG in Upstate NY on my honeymoon. Up near Lake Placid you can drive 60, feel like your goin' fast due to twisties, yet not see anyone else on the road to slow you down!

chillinmcmillan
11-19-2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by newf
How is everyone finding their cars after the flash? Mine is eating it. granted, it is colder now, and I'm somewhat of a lead foot since the flash :) but even when I try to take it easy ( very hard to do ) she still seems to swallow alot of gas

I dont' know if I should blame it on myself, or the flash, or cold weather.....and it's not really that cold yet...we have no snow.

It is you, the flash did nothing to the richness of the fuel that the turbo is getting. All it did was advance the timing, so gas milage hasn't changed at all.

girth
11-19-2003, 11:05 PM
Hey Newf, ironically I was kind of wondering the same thing. For me there has been 1 "hot" day here since I got the flash - 85 degrees. After that it's just been normal temps (getting colder with winter). My mileage has gone down from a consistant 31MPG to 29.5MPG but I'm contributing that negligable difference to the colder weather. I'm expecting it to go down to about 27-28 once winter arrives full-boar and then back up to 31 for the summer. If it doesn't bounce back up to 31 I'll be very surprised. Kind of sneeky of Mazda to release the flash after all the hot weather is over with - because of that I won't know its true potential for another 6 months!

MSP Pro
11-19-2003, 11:23 PM
My mileage went up 1-2 mpg after the flash. Before, I was getting 26 to 27 mpg, after the flash I'm getting 27 to 28 mpg. Last tank I got 28.98 mpg. This is a 24 mile commute through town, so it's some stop and go and some highway 60 mph driving. I'm happy! :D

oldzoomer
11-19-2003, 11:32 PM
I am getting 27 mpg in mixed city/hwy rush hour driving post-flash. This is an average over 4 tanks. I attribute my increase in mpg to adding more miles to the car. I'm now up to a whole 1650.

I know in my old car the mileage would decrease when they started pumping the reformulated winter gas. Maybe that's what is causing a decrease for some of you?

Newf
11-19-2003, 11:43 PM
used to get about 450-475 around town

now, I'm getting 400-425 kms.


Same thing happened with the mp3 at about the same mileage.

Interesting hey.

Leadfoot
11-19-2003, 11:44 PM
I know in my old car the mileage would decrease when they started pumping the reformulated winter gas. Maybe that's what is causing a decrease for some of you?
That's what I was thinking too...Oxygenated gas sucks ass....I personally don't see how it reduces emissions if you have to burn more of it! Fuck whoever decides it's better for the environment!!!!

Newf
11-19-2003, 11:45 PM
Kind of sneeky of Mazda to release the flash after all the hot weather is over with - because of that I won't know its true potential for another 6 months!

I agree completely.

CarlM2
11-20-2003, 12:13 AM
24-26 city, 30-32 highway post flash. Pre flash was within 1 mpg of this for highway... however, city went up about 2 mpg.

nocar
11-20-2003, 12:20 AM
u can tell them to call mazdausa about the flash and they will tell them over the fone wat to do

Inspekdah
11-20-2003, 04:01 AM
I just got my MSP over the weekend.... can someone explain to me this whole flash concept and should I call my service department to have it done?

mspdfreak
11-20-2003, 08:10 AM
averaging 30-31mpg...mostly hwy, though.

Newf
11-20-2003, 08:40 AM
Inspekdah
- see faq sticky on top of MAzdaspeed section

Turbofreak
11-20-2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Inspekdah
I just got my MSP over the weekend.... can someone explain to me this whole flash concept and should I call my service department to have it done?

yea i just got mine to.... and i dont really know alot
about the flash but want to do it. i told my dealer
and i think he was like:wtf: is he talkin about so
HELPPPPPP please!!!!!!!

CarlM2
11-20-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by Turbofreak
yea i just got mine to.... and i dont really know alot
about the flash but want to do it. i told my dealer
and i think he was like:wtf: is he talkin about so
HELPPPPPP please!!!!!!!

Please read this:

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38935

TigrMsP
11-20-2003, 03:06 PM
The link off that page for the flash issue is broken.

MazdaDryvr
11-20-2003, 03:32 PM
I noticed that my Kms per tank has fallen slightly. Maybe 20-30 per tank. I havent bothered to calculate the actual milage.

tekkie
11-20-2003, 05:26 PM
Crap I dont have the flash yet and I am only getting about 400km per tank :rolleyes: I was hoping the flash was going to get me better mileage :mad:

I keep saying that I am going to drive like a normal person and see if I can get good gas mileage but I can't drive for more than 50k and then I got to stomp on it again :D

If someone ever has the willpower to do it let us know what the car can actually do.

Stormtrooper77
11-20-2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by tekkie
Crap I dont have the flash yet and I am only getting about 400km per tank :rolleyes: I was hoping the flash was going to get me better mileage :mad:

I keep saying that I am going to drive like a normal person and see if I can get good gas mileage but I can't drive for more than 50k and then I got to stomp on it again :D

If someone ever has the willpower to do it let us know what the car can actually do.

You must drive like a madman! When do you fill up? I wait until the gas light comes on. I'm getting about 600 per tank (no flash yet).

03MSP
11-20-2003, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by tekkie
Crap I dont have the flash yet and I am only getting about 400km per tank :rolleyes: I was hoping the flash was going to get me better mileage :mad:

I keep saying that I am going to drive like a normal person and see if I can get good gas mileage but I can't drive for more than 50k and then I got to stomp on it again :D

If someone ever has the willpower to do it let us know what the car can actually do.

I shifted under 3000; I didn't get through a full tank, I had 1/4 left, but I filled up and calculated the MPG, I got 27 in the City; so that's about 400 miles city driving; that's damn good for 14.5 gallons.

BTW; it was hard as hell driving like that!

Stormtrooper77
11-20-2003, 07:43 PM
14.5 gallons and you had a 1/4 tank left? I don't think our tanks are that big?