Put weatherstripping back in.

[jonnydoe48]

I put it in back in because it was winter, and i realized it gave a somewhat structural support to the hood. i could tell this because the hood would rattle at idle with it out, but with it in, it sits there. the stripping also mutes the engine ticking (timing belt) so its nice and quiet inside..unless the fan is on of course.

i guess ill take it out when summer comes again, but right now, its not needed.

[jaymode]

yeah one day this week I need to do it also. Did you pull out the little black things when you took out the weather stripping? I left mine in, so does anyone know if I need to pull them out to put it back on.

[SpicyRay]

besides, in the winter, u might want to keep that heat in now.

[jonnydoe48]

exactly.

and i left the black things inside. i didnt need to pull them out, i just stretched the rubber weatherstripping a bit to fit them on. it was quite easy after the first or second one.

[505zoom]

This is something that I highly reccomend to all of you who that have removed the weatherstripping. At least those of you who live where it gets around freezing. If you leave it off, and your windshield is close to freezing, the hot air that is escaping from the engine bay COULD crack your windshield. Just my .02 :)

[RyanJayG]

our windsheilds crack easily... mine did, thank God for my Mazda service department, they are gold!

[boostaddict]

This is a thread that I've resisted commenting on because I don't want to be called a troll but I can't resist any longer.

<Rant on>

All you folks that took the weather stripping out to help air escape from the engine bay.... How do you explain the fact that at highway speed with the fan off there is still air coming in the vents that are connected to the area right behind the weather stripping? Or how about Camaro's of various vintages that had backward facing hood scoots that opened close to the windshield?

Folks this mod is putting air *into* the engine bay since there is a high pressure area created in front of the windsheild when the car is going any speed.

As for hot air coming out and cracking the winsheild..... Hmm better not ever turn on the defroster with it set to hot huh?

<Rant off>


I feel better now.

[Vulcanon]

troll :p

[jaymode]

Originally posted by boostaddict
This is a thread that I've resisted commenting on because I don't want to be called a troll but I can't resist any longer.

<Rant on>

All you folks that took the weather stripping out to help air escape from the engine bay.... How do you explain the fact that at highway speed with the fan off there is still air coming in the vents that are connected to the area right behind the weather stripping? Or how about Camaro's of various vintages that had backward facing hood scoots that opened close to the windshield?

Folks this mod is putting air *into* the engine bay since there is a high pressure area created in front of the windsheild when the car is going any speed.

As for hot air coming out and cracking the winsheild..... Hmm better not ever turn on the defroster with it set to hot huh?

<Rant off>


I feel better now.

Well anyway the air going in is definitely going to help cool things in there. I really dont care if air is escaping or going in because either way it keeps it cooler which will help the intercooler and the other various coolers do there jobs.

[505zoom]

Originally posted by boostaddict


As for hot air coming out and cracking the winsheild..... Hmm better not ever turn on the defroster with it set to hot huh?



:D I would like to see the defroster blow out air that is half as hot as the under-hood temps of the MSP. It is ridiculous how hot it is under there.

[Newf]

yeah, it's HOT...WAY HOT....but keep those things on for winter purposes. Asking for troubles keeping it off imho

[PaulMP3]

Originally posted by 505zoom
This is something that I highly reccomend to all of you who that have removed the weatherstripping. At least those of you who live where it gets around freezing. If you leave it off, and your windshield is close to freezing, the hot air that is escaping from the engine bay COULD crack your windshield. Just my .02 :)

Definitly true. I notice the hot air causes my windows to fog up quicker also. Im gonna out mine back on b4 it starts to get cold.

[subachad]

The troll is right. Taking the rear weatherstripping off will actually force air INTO the engine... hence the cowel (sp) induction setup...

[03MSPRO]

for whoover said the liltle rubber provides structural support for the hood, I don't buy that. A little rubber won't do squat for structural support.

I removed the weather stripping and I can see the hot air escape when sitting at a light so it DOES let air OUT, at least when sitting at a light.
When moving, it MIGHT force air into the engine which I doubt, but either way is all good!
The hot air from the engine is not hot enough to crack the windshield! Not even the defroster at FULL blast is hot enogh!! Is the windshield tampered glass? I removed the weather stripping in my wife's Protege and she's been driving it like that for 3 yrs now with no problems, even a winter 2 year ago when the temp was like 25 degress out plus wind factor and NO cracked windshield.
I have to be honest and also say that I did thought of putting the weather stripping back at some point last year, but I lost it in my garage and when I went to Mazda Parts Dept. to buy it, they said I had to buy the complete cowl. The weather stripping it is NOT sold separete. The complete cowl was like $100!! So I decided to leave it alone and no problems so far. Just my $0.02

[505zoom]

You guys do whatever you want:rolleyes: But if there are all of the sudden 150 threads about cracked windshields by January I don't want to hear all the complaining. It is very simple to put back on, and those of you who live where it is that cold don't really need the ventilation anyway. If you really want to risk a broken windshield over a tiny bit of cooling, be my guest.

03MSPRO- The regular protege's under hood temps are nowhere near the inferno of the MSP. The fact that your wife has been driving around for 3 years in a normal protege doesn't really apply to this. That turbo is a huge source of heat.

[BremertonMSP]

Originally posted by 03MSPRO
Snip...

I removed the weather stripping and I can see the hot air escape when sitting at a light so it DOES let air OUT, at least when sitting at a light.
When moving, it MIGHT force air into the engine which I doubt, but either way is all good!

boosaddict and subachad have it right, it's called Cowl Induction. The base of the windshield is a high-pressure area when the car is at highway speed. That's why the old school Cameros and Chevelles had the little vent at the cowling. It actually forces air into the engine compartment.

Also, have you ever noticed where NASCAR had their airbox inlet located? That's right, at the cowling.

For the record, I put my weather strip back in a couple of weeks ago when the rains came back. I don't like the idea of water being forced into the engine compartment (more then it has to be) when driving down the road.

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

i'm gonna drill holes in my hood to vent the heat. :D

speeeeed hooooooles

[unwrittenLaw]

who the hell needs a hood, i drive w/o it...for that hardcore "i can't afford my cf hood yet" look

[Delivery_Guy]

Originally posted by 03MSPRO
I removed the weather stripping in my wife's Protege and she's been driving it like that for 3 yrs now with no problems, even a winter 2 year ago when the temp was like 25 degress out plus wind factor and NO cracked windshield.


Ahhh, a winter of 25 Degrees...I wish i had that situation. Come up to Minneapolis and I'll show you winter!!!
-10 Degrees Baby...Add in the wind and that's cold.

[03MSPRO]

Originally posted by BremertonMSP

For the record, I put my weather strip back in a couple of weeks ago when the rains came back. I don't like the idea of water being forced into the engine compartment (more then it has to be) when driving down the road.

I guess you would not own an EVO or EVO hood. The water splashing from under the hood is far more than the water that could be sucked under the back of the hood....

[03MSPRO]

Originally posted by Delivery_Guy
Ahhh, a winter of 25 Degrees...I wish i had that situation. Come up to Minneapolis and I'll show you winter!!!
-10 Degrees Baby...Add in the wind and that's cold.

that's why I liven in TX!!! :D

[jaymode]

well i put mine back in just now. It was kinda painful on the thumbs and a pain to get the first one in but then the others were easy until the last one. But I got it back on, even though it is almost 80 today, supposed to get cold later this week.

[Black Majik MSP]

Originally posted by jaymode
well i put mine back in just now. It was kinda painful on the thumbs and a pain to get the first one in but then the others were easy until the last one. But I got it back on, even though it is almost 80 today, supposed to get cold later this week.

Then you can change your sig because:

you put it back
it's not a mod in the 1st place

[BremertonMSP]

Originally posted by 03MSPRO
I guess you would not own an EVO or EVO hood. The water splashing from under the hood is far more than the water that could be sucked under the back of the hood....

No, I would own an EVO. Just didn't want to pay the 10K mark up they where asking on them when I bought my MSP. Plus, since the big vents in the hood where from the factory, I would be less inclined to worry about any problems that may have occurred form water getting in there.

[03MSPRO]

Originally posted by BremertonMSP
No, I would own an EVO. Just didn't want to pay the 10K mark up they where asking on them when I bought my MSP. Plus, since the big vents in the hood where from the factory, I would be less inclined to worry about any problems that may have occurred form water getting in there.

I am just curious, can kind of CAI do you have?
The reason I am asking is because you seem very concerned about water getting in the engine compartment, so you probably have come up with a CAI that eliminates any chance of water getting INTO the engine.

[JTP]

Originally posted by 03MSPRO
I am just curious, can kind of CAI do you have?
The reason I am asking is because you seem very concerned about water getting in the engine compartment, so you probably have come up with a CAI that eliminates any chance of water getting INTO the engine.

They have a valve from AEM that does just that for CAIs.

[Gbourdon]

The AEM valve doesn't work with forced induction cars.

[1338]

what makes you say this?
Originally posted by Gbourdon
The AEM valve doesn't work with forced induction cars.

[subaruwrx]

He doesnt, AEM does. They do not recommend this device for use with FI cars.


"Ok, I spoke to Robert at AEM's tech support and he said this:

The bypass valve is NOT to be used with turbo/supercharged cars because the foam element inside that springs open when the main filter is submerged can get sucked into the engine. This is probably due to the fact that the turbo impeller is still trying to suck air when the main intake is stopped whereas a NA engine wouldn't have that problem. He recommended something from a company called "Outerwears" (outerwears.net) that sells something similar to the K&N Precharger sock. He said that coating that with a silicone spray would make it water resistant to splashes but (of course) not waterproof. Plus it would cut down on the cleaning of the filter itself. "


Also:
http://www.aempower.com/faq.asp?sid=3

Taken from the sport compact racing archive.
--A

[Gbourdon]

What he said.

[BremertonMSP]

Originally posted by 03MSPRO
I am just curious, can kind of CAI do you have?
The reason I am asking is because you seem very concerned about water getting in the engine compartment, so you probably have come up with a CAI that eliminates any chance of water getting INTO the engine.

my CAI (http://www.mazdamp3.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21926&highlight=Home+Made+CAI)

No real measures to ensure that water doesn't enter the engine. I just make sure I don't drive through major water. It's no different then any other CAI that draws aire from the fenderwell.

I'm not saying that people have to reinstall the weatherstripping. Just that I don't like water getting down into the engine compartment via that route.

:)