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Roywhitep5
10-25-2003, 11:55 PM
would a miata(with an lsd) be a good match against an AE86?
Captain KRM P5
10-25-2003, 11:57 PM
a match for what...looks...racing....drag racing...autoX....drifting....?
miatas are excellent autoX cars in proper hands.
ZoomZoomH
10-25-2003, 11:58 PM
it should kill it good
AE86 is good, but it's 1986 good, not 2003 good
there IS a difference
ZoomZoomH
10-25-2003, 11:59 PM
i am comparing it in terms of road racing/autox
Roywhitep5
10-26-2003, 12:05 AM
i met up with natey last night and he was talking about how he was driving in the hills around milpitas with a bunch of ae86 guys and he totally couldnt keep up with them with his p5. so we were thinking that a miata with an lsd and a good driver could match an AE86 with a good driver
Darin
10-26-2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by roywhitep5
i met up with natey last night and he was talking about how he was driving in the hills around milpitas with a bunch of ae86 guys and he totally couldnt keep up with them with his p5. so we were thinking that a miata with an lsd and a good driver could match an AE86 with a good driver
Driver -
Not discounting Natey's skills, there are many many variables...
I've got a friend w/ a stock P5 who can match just about any miata in our club on a twisty drive.
Roywhitep5
10-26-2003, 12:12 AM
i need a miata with an lsd. im missing out on all the bay area drifting fun
AZDriftR
10-26-2003, 12:44 AM
like i was told when i had my ass handed to be by a 88 FX-16 (twistys and straits). dont underestimate 80's toyota's they were ahead of there timeespecially the AE86, they are very light ( just as light as a miata) and have more power.
KpaBap
10-26-2003, 12:52 AM
hmm a miata with LSD eh?
:D
Roywhitep5
10-26-2003, 12:57 AM
dont hachi roku's only have like 110hp or something
KpaBap
10-26-2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by AZDriftR
like i was told when i had my ass handed to be by a 88 FX-16 (twistys and straits). dont underestimate 80's toyota's they were ahead of there timeespecially the AE86, they are very light ( just as light as a miata) and have more power.
No.
The Miata has 125 lbs-ft and 142 hp.
The AE86 has 97 lbs-ft and 115 hp.
The Miata is also perfectly corner weighted and has 50/50 weight distribution.
With a driver that knows how to drive a Miata to its limit (there's a limit?) the AE86 is just too outdated.
KpaBap
10-26-2003, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by Darin
Driver -
Not discounting Natey's skills, there are many many variables...
I've got a friend w/ a stock P5 who can match just about any miata in our club on a twisty drive.
(lol)
(uhm)
(braindead :bs: (smash) (chair)
Natey
10-26-2003, 12:07 PM
I got smoked by a guy in a fully modded AE86 that was drifting around every corner.
I had a 200lb+ passenger and an 80lb sub in a FWD station wagon driving down a steep hill... I was in Understeer City, even with the AWR swaybar.
IMO, A Miata would SMOKE an AE86. I was wishing for Julie's car that night.
KpaBap
10-26-2003, 12:10 PM
The AEs can get pretty crazy once you start adding power.
But then add that FMII, get some race gas and crank the boost. It's all over again.
dolphin
10-26-2003, 01:25 PM
For the same level of vehicle preparation, the Miata is quicker than the AE86 with the same driver.
Black Majik MSP
10-26-2003, 01:47 PM
An AE86 with the right mods & in the hands of the right driver can beat just about anything on a road race. If you don't believe me, watch some of the Best Motoring videos (like the one where the AE86 beats the R34 GTR):
http://www.bestmotoringvideo.com/mpeg_86_index.html
UberCaff
10-26-2003, 08:11 PM
Now, we know of a local Miata driver with an LSD, the only problem is finding a dude with a AE86. It will probally come down the driver.
StuttersC
10-26-2003, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by Black Majik MSP
An AE86 with the right mods & in the hands of the right driver can beat just about anything on a road race. If you don't believe me, watch some of the Best Motoring videos (like the one where the AE86 beats the R34 GTR):
http://www.bestmotoringvideo.com/mpeg_86_index.html
I'm willing to bet a Miata with similar mods will be just as fast...
Red99Xtreme
10-26-2003, 10:18 PM
With a driver that knows how to drive a Miata to its limit (there's a limit?) the AE86 is just too outdated.
Outdated.....LoL
Name another Current production RWD Car that comes Factory with a 5 Link Rear End.....
The 86 is a very impressive Spectical even by todays standards, the Miata is also a very formidable force.
BTW, The 1985+ GTS was Corner Weighted to a Perfect 50/50 weight ratio....So the miata doesnt have that advantage, the only advantage I see in the Miatas favor is it weighs almost nothing with a bit more power.
The GTS Models were Claimed to have 130hp from the Factory, Along with Quick Ratio Power Assist Steering. The Car Corners likes its on Rails, and has more then enough power......
I have personally owned one and drove it on a Track Session where there wasnt much that could keep up with me until we hit the Back Straight at Summit point but I always caught up by Turn 5.
As far as who would win....It would come down to Driver as I feel both cars would make a Pretty Even match...
Mike
kcbhiw
10-26-2003, 11:12 PM
If only I had the storage space, I'd love to have an old Corolla GTS. They are, indeed, very formidable opponents for the Miata. This thread makes me wish (more) that I had an AE86 in addition to the Miata. I think it'd make an awsome ITA car.
me too ! ::sigh:: my miata's in the shop now...might sell it :( i wanna keep it !!!
kcbhiw
10-28-2003, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by jflo
my miata's in the shop now...might sell it :(
You are truely a sick individual. ;) What's wrong with it?
chri3
10-29-2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by jflo
me too ! ::sigh:: my miata's in the shop now...might sell it :( i wanna keep it !!!
Whats wrong with it? I want a BRG!!!
but i'm broke enugh already
well, i had an accident back in august and january, too...so getting that fixed. blah ! i wanna drive it again...i want my BRG, too :(
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