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Cam
10-22-2003, 06:53 PM
I have just gone past 1000 miles and I am already tired of my MSP. This is my third Mazda (MP3, P5, MSP) and I have been having nothing but problems. Here they are: 1) steering wheels shakes violently above 70 mph. Happens with stock wheels and my Racing Hart RPO7s. 2) Rear bumper attachment is coming off not just above the exhaust but the whole way around. The front attachment looks like it is coming loose too. 3) At about 800 miles I start experiencing a loud whistle or whining from the turbo at about 3k plus rpms. Dealership has no idea what it is. They supposed called Mazda, but that was a week ago. Called dealership and their Mazdaspeed Tech. quit so they can't help me. I have to drive a half an hour to see a Mazdaspeed Tech. 4) My car hesitates really bad. My dealership has no idea how to reflash the MSP. They entered my VIN # and no TSB appeared. They said sorry.

I waited so long for this car and now all this. The car only has 1K miles. Give me a break. I want my P5 back. How can I do this? CA does not have a cooling off period. Dammit!!!Sorry about the ranting. Is this happening to anyone else?

EVILSRT
10-22-2003, 06:59 PM
Just take your car to the desert and burn it. Then buy another MSP.:D

chrisjw85
10-22-2003, 07:00 PM
Lol isn't that whistle just the turbo?

jaymode
10-22-2003, 07:01 PM
go to another dealer. I finid it easier to get service done at my local dealer than at the mazdaspeed dealer which is an hour away from me. I would try one of them first.

RyanJayG
10-22-2003, 07:02 PM
yeah, some dealers are cluless, some are great. I'm lucky, mine has always been great and willing to do extra to make me satisfied.

spacemonkey
10-22-2003, 07:06 PM
have you heard about the ECU reflash? That may solve some of your problems about hesitation. Its free. I felt a slight hesitation on my mazdaspeed and I thought it was normal...until I got the flash. Its alot smoother and accelerates quicker through 3000 rpm. Weird loud whistle or whining, does it sound like a turkey? Im clueless about that cuz I can't her the turbo though the 450 Kenwood sound system. Im clueless about your steering wheel problem or bumper problem Maybe you bought a lemon...get to the dealer about that! I bought my MSP about four weeks ago and just reached 1300 miles with no problems. I drove very carefully during to break in period and now the transmission and engine is broken in everything is alot smoother.

I like to go to a MAzdaspeed certified dealer.

irr5302
10-22-2003, 07:10 PM
the first is the front disc warranty replace

the turbo sound is normal

the hesitation use search copy the file # and go to the dealer to find in the intenet / copy to disc and copy / to the reflash computer is a easy task


the losse bumper part is covered by warranty

att IRR 1239/2000PR


I have my reflash more than one months ago here in Puerto Rico

IRISH22
10-22-2003, 07:13 PM
Ill trade you my 2003 Protege 5, if youre really sick of it.

Flat Black
10-22-2003, 07:15 PM
If you don't like the car, fucking sell it. I swear to god, most of you people bitch more than Clinton during the impeachment. Nothing is perfect, get used to it. You bought a 20,000 dollar turbocharged car, do you expect regular protege reliability? If you do, you're stupid. The more modifications you do to a car, the less reliable it becomes - usually- , and there are tons of mods from the factory.

This car isnt built to go 200,000 miles, okay. You're gonna have problems, and yes, some of them are really annoying, but you either hate it, or you love it. Suck it up, or get rid of the fucking thing. Just everyone, STOP YOUR FUCKING BITCHING ABOUT THE CAR. This isnt just for you Cam, don't take it personally.

instylz
10-22-2003, 07:15 PM
Don't give up on her you will have your problems resolved just going to have to go to another dealer...Same thing happens will all types of Cars....I had a Mitsubishi Eclipse and nothing but problems....local dealer were a bunch of asses...When it comes to Warranty work its all the luck of the draw to find a really good dealer...Good Luck

spacemonkey
10-22-2003, 07:17 PM
Yeah, I was about to ask if you have driven a turbocharged vehicle before...the turbo thing sound normal. If you hear a turkey...well then your screwed! j/k The turkey is the BPV if you haven't noticed yet.

spacemonkey
10-22-2003, 07:22 PM
The car is good! At least its a realiable car that is turbocharged. It could be worst. But I'm sure if you take care of here it will be fine. I do not get the whole swithing from a MP3 to a P5? Not dissign P5s but I would have kept the MP3 and turboed that! You probally lost money on the trade-in, just to get the same car but turboed. You should have just turboed your MP3.

hayula
10-22-2003, 07:38 PM
i went from a p5 to a MSP and I admit, it loses a lot of it's novelty since i was getting 75% of the fun already.
that's why you're sick of it. maybe it's time to move up to a mazdaspeed 6??

FC3s Boy
10-22-2003, 08:02 PM
Where are you at in cali, i can point you to a good dealership that can help

twiztedjeckel
10-22-2003, 09:06 PM
it is a pretty dinky ass turbo not making the car all that quick. i think i'd rather have my first car back and loose the payments for the clunking cunt i'm driving around right now

jersey_emt
10-22-2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by twiztedjeckel
it is a pretty dinky ass turbo not making the car all that quick. i think i'd rather have my first car back and loose the payments for the clunking cunt i'm driving around right now

Then start test-driving other cars...if you find the right one for you, trade in or sell the MSP, and get that. Yes, you may lose some money in the process, but you'll be happy.

This car isn't for everyone...I love mine (4100 miles in about 2 months) and wouldn't trade if for anything (well, anything in its price range). But if you're not happy with the car, then don't suffer any longer with it.

jonnydoe48
10-22-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Flat Black
[B] This car isnt built to go 200,000 miles, okay.

uh, if you drive it right, im sure it will. no problems here.

girth
10-22-2003, 11:43 PM
You're complaining because you have to drive 30 minutes to get to the dealer?! Good Lord - try 2 HOURS like I have - then you can complain.

Turbo whine = normal
Rear bumper skirt coming off = "normal" but get it fixed by dealer cuz it shouldn't happen. I say "normal" because many people have had this happen - multiple times even.
Steering wheel shake = I guarantee your tires are out of balance. Trust me, I know, it happened to me and it is a bitch and a half trying to find a tire place that will take the time to get them balanced right. After 3 failed attempts and a couple hundred dollars later I finally found a place that took 1 hour per tire to do them. Since then, it's awesome. You need to find a place like that in Cali.
Hesitation = I know, all dealers are retards. Just call around or call Mazda USA to get your nearest dealer's head out of their arse.

twiztedjeckel
10-23-2003, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by jersey_emt
Then start test-driving other cars...if you find the right one for you, trade in or sell the MSP, and get that. Yes, you may lose some money in the process, but you'll be happy.

trust me, i have been.

currently on my list if things to trade or sell the Clunking Orange Cunt are-99-00' Ford Lightning,00-01' Audi S4,04' Evo,04'STi,04' SRT-4.

but due to the "COC"'s shitass resale value i'm forced to keep the thing and keep making double payments till i can pay it down a considerable amount so i don't end up neeing the industrial size barrel of KY come trade in time

Black Majik MSP
10-23-2003, 06:13 AM
I only hear the whistle on my car starting around 5 grand.

lastsaga
10-23-2003, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by Cam
3) At about 800 miles I start experiencing a loud whistle or whining from the turbo at about 3k plus rpms. Dealership has no idea what it is. They supposed called Mazda, but that was a week ago. Called dealership and their Mazdaspeed Tech. quit so they can't help me. I have to drive a half an hour to see a Mazdaspeed Tech.

if the dealership, mazda, and mazdaspeed tech don't know what it is, i'm sure it's more than just "the regular turbo noise lololol agghagha" you guys are talking about.

if it were normal, the tech would have just been like "uh, it's normal. go home."

my thoughts on that issue :P

Cam
10-23-2003, 02:24 PM
Whoa guys!!! Don't get me wrong, I love the car. I waited forever for it. I love Mazdas. I understand that this is a turbo car. The whistle coming from the turbo is not normal. My local dealership said it sounded bad, but they didn't know what was causing the noise. They attempted to call Mazda about the problem, but the mazdaspeed tech quit. So now I have to take the car to the next closest dealership 30 min. away. I don't mind the drive it's just a hassle.
I'm just pissed that I lost money when trading in my P5 and my payments went up a little on a car that I am losing faith in (only my car, not all msps).
Can I take the car back to the dealership and complain about the problems and possibly get out of the contract?

DiscreetSpeed
10-23-2003, 02:31 PM
call NAMO and get in their ASSS!!!!

Heathen23
10-23-2003, 02:43 PM
Take the actual TSB in for the flash. All dealerships have it at this point, if they don't stand there and call MNAO with them to settle it. Just look for turboge's post with the TSB# for the flash and write down the TSB code. There is no discussion with the service dept. about "what flash" if you are holding the actual TSB# in your hand.

As for your rear bumper thing won't some double sided tape on a very clean surface solve that? I wouldn't even bother with the dealer to fix that considering they sound like numbskulls.

BremertonMSP
10-23-2003, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by twiztedjeckel
trust me, i have been.

currently on my list if things to trade or sell the Clunking Orange Cunt are-99-00' Ford Lightning,00-01' Audi S4,04' Evo,04'STi,04' SRT-4.


God I hope you get an SRT-4!! Then you can go bitch about that POS on the SRT-4 boards!! I mean, what would you do if you didn't have anything to piss and moan about?



but due to the "COC"'s shitass resale value i'm forced to keep the thing and keep making double payments till i can pay it down a considerable amount so i don't end up neeing the industrial size barrel of KY come trade in time

Stupid is as stupid does!! Nothing like throwing good money after bad. Your logic is as stupid as you are!! Nothing like paying on interest just so you can fool yourself down the road thinking you're not getting reamed as hard!!

Redeyes13
10-23-2003, 07:50 PM
Ok with the shaking at 70MPH, Chances are they did not PDI (pre-Deliever Inspection) right, Every MazdaSpeed has to be aligned at certain specs. Most shops dont have the machine to do it so they dont do it. My dealership does not have one but we send them down the road to be set right.

With the body kit falling off, basically its double sided sticky tape some were put on sloppy and Ive done about 2-3 on our lot and have not had problems since or customers complaining.

Also they were talking about reprogramming the PCM or something, My dealership just recieved a bulletin on "reflashing" it, its about a 30min-1hr job, all you have to do is know how to work a mazda computer so if your dealership is saying they dont have a mazda tech they are full of it, there is always a mazda speed tech, its a proto with a turbo no difference really, no if you want to talk rotary, different story.

See your Mazda Dealer and offer to leave the car for a day but make sure you tell them you want everything done.

Matthew
10-23-2003, 07:59 PM
i think the whine may be something another member was experiencing with his girlfriends msp (he owned a rx7). it wasnt the normal turbo whine, so maybe it isnt what you all think is normal turbo whine.