aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi

[twilightprotege]

the microtech is a standalone ecu...although the stock ecu will remain to run the in car stuff like speedo, tach...well that how most are setup.

but to be honest - if you change the ecu, NEVER trust the mazda dealer. hell i havent even been to my mazda dealer in 2 years because i get a friend (conveniently used to work for grand prix mazda in brisbane) to get the car serviced. but once the warranty runs out (in 20 days) i'll be servicing the car totally myself.

sh!t....i've had my car for almost 3 years!!! dang!!!

[Vultz]

Damn. I was hoping you wern't going to say that! I have no contacts at all who are mechanics. I would like to find a good workshop who I can trust out near where I live who are reliable and don't try to rip me off.

If anyone lives in outer NW Sydney and knows of some good workshops please let me know!

Edit: My car is only 4 months old by the way so i have ages left on my warranty and i really dont want to void it if i can avoid it hehe

[twilightprotege]

i'd suggest not doing the ecu or turbo now then. but if you want to be extra safe, just keep the original parts if you change them (ie exhaust).

but remember, mazda cant void the warranty on your suspension because you have an exhaust system etc...

[Vultz]

Nah turbo isnt even in the works in the forseeable future. If i was going to turbo a car id do it on a different platform.

Where can i read up on the ecu you plan to swap to? Im guessing its mainly there for tuning purposes, so wouldn't a requisite be a dyno on hand and something to tune it with? Im probably on the wrong track hehe. This is all new territory for me so im learning as i go

[twilightprotege]

the ecu i'm planning? i'm not 100% sure yet. either unichip or chiptorque. they are both australian. chiptorque is the better out of the two, but i might be able to get an un-refuseable deal on a unichip

unichip website : http://www.unichip.com.au
chiptorque : http://www.chiptorque.com.au

but the yanks on here are doing a lot more than that. have a look in the engine management section of this forum

[Octane]

Had once looked at a Unichip, but that was a few years ago now. Not sure how much they cost either. There's some good options in terms of engine management on the market....

Octane

[wiredone]

twilight: truthfully for the money, don't touch either... both are cheap impulse ecu buys... neither does its job very well... with a stand alone fuel management unit (such as a haltech f10 or a microtech) you should be able to tune the air to fuel ratios and all things that affect them, you should have full control over tps calibration. unichips and powerchips and all the rest are not considered to be decent examples of power gains in my books... get something thats made by a company that makes ecu's for everyday use in everything, at least you will know your getting quality...

In all the time i spent at the street dreams workshop i saw time after time after time unichips being removed in exchange for another ecu because it didnt do its job well enough. TDK had a unichip and was told by hundreds of people how well it worked... but ask him yourself why he upgraded...

my 2c (this one always hurts) save up and buy a full ignition computer, something that has both (your going to need it in the long run anyway with your mods) ignition and fuel... they nearly all come with a thousand other features that you'll put to good use.

this was by no means an attack, im just trying to stop you from making a mistake thousands of people make when they see a cheap price tag and "proven" power gains. Worst case scenario get one second hand out of the trading post... youll thank yourself... hope all goes well

[twilightprotege]

yeah if i had the money i would definately go a standalone. no doubt. i totally agree they are by far, and i really really mean by far, better than piggy chips like unichip or chiptorque. but the problem i have is money, and i dont want to spend that much money on my 20. i'd still like to get a series 8 rx7 in the near future

you might know wired, but do either of those allow you to raise the rev limit?

[wiredone]

nice one...my next car is going to be a black series 8 as well...

well most stand alone fuel managements should be able to change the rev limit because they will be controlling the fuel cut... i can tell you from playing around... unless you have new springs and serious cams the engine doesnt make any more power up real high... and unless you've got a nice block as well as head (i know you have this) work then it wouldnt be worth the power gain...

pm me with the ecu you want and ill give you a price on one as cheap as i can get one... i really dont want you to go wasting money on a unichip...

[ahb11m]

my next car....BMW M3 E46.....

i say no more....

[twilightprotege]

wired - you have pm (not relating to ecu though)

oh and fyi - yep i have very very serious cams :D

[Octane]

Heya everyone.... if you change your own oil in your cars, what do you recommend or have found the best???

What do people pay for their spark plugs aswell?? Looking for nothing over the top, just a good replacement plug, or are the manufacturers recommended plug the best?

Octane :)

[ahb11m]

i used the iridium plugs... last for ages, 100k at best.. cost 18 each

[Octane]

Thanks dude... reasonably cheap considering they are the long lasting ones. Looking for more of a throw away plug after 10,000k's.... not a long lasting one if you know what i mean. Champion? NGK?? Suppose the standard ones will do a good enuf job huh?

Octane

[JEB83]

my next car....BMW M3 E46.....

i say no more....
OUr next one is a BMW M6

[ahb11m]

NGK Iridium plugs are good, v. good, as they have a very thin core, which is gonna mean they clog less, therfore much longer lasting

if you only want 10k out of them go for a 4 prong design.. decent plugs should last at least 30k!!!

i think colder plugs would be beneficial, but i'm not too sure

[twilightprotege]

for oil i use castrol 5w-30. less than $50 which is good. i also have denso iridium plugs, but they cost a lot. colder plugs are only of use if you have a more powerful engine, otherwise they wont get hot enough to burn off the carbon building up on the plugs. i have 1 step colder plugs. now i have more power they are fine, but before i had to clean them every 1000k's or so. just go for the cheapo champion gold plugs - they are good enough for factory replacement ones

hey jimbo - going to do some cooking tonight - bake my headlights that is so i can paint the insides on the weekend. any tips my friend?

[sabrelli]

can you guys believe i still havent installed my short shifter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its still sitting in the box!

man, how long has it been now twilight????2 months??3?

[Octane]

Thanks for the info all...
Will pass on the info. I remeber seeing a test in fast fours a while back (2years?) that tested spark plugs, and the Champion Gold plugs came like first or second, against some expensive plugs (thing they tested about 10 of them).
Will just get some reasonable ones for the dyno tuning and run up.... then maybe he can throw some iridiums in there after a while.... *shrug*

I gather that you are running the Formula R (5W-30) oil twilight? Castrol...

Octane :)

[twilightprotege]

gee sabrelli it has been ages indeed!!! i guess it doesnt help that you werent in the country! hehehe

octane - yeah that's why i said champion golds, but they didnt compair iridium plugs from memory, only platinium and normal.

and yep, formula r. i even won a free pair of bmw-williams bonoculars when i entered the bar code online :D hehehehe not bad ones either. good solid metal parts etc. but yeah, formula r 5w-30. nice and thin oil means more power :D

[ahb11m]

i'm gonna test out magnatec... big problem with cold starts, but i hit the 161k mark yesterday... she's an old worn girl......

yeah use the highest shelf possible in the oven, don't open it too much as this will cool the glue, and most important don't be impatient!!! make sure you sand the chroming well off (doesn't have to be perfect, but you should try to get to the plastic, use 1200 grit, then 400 dry... as it smoothes up, use 400 wet... (use the same sheet if you want!!) also while you have it apart install some leds!!! (mine actually have a spot for them to go in, just didn't think of it, but by the time i was doing it, it was 3 in the morning!!, dick smith was closed for some reason!!)

oh and try and talk karless into doing his!!
Arden, i was wondereing why you ain't been on MSN!!!

andy i dunno if you have done your lights yet, but feel free to ring me when you do, if your stuck!! I'll be working at dominos most nights, till late, so don't fret about the time!!!

[twilightprotege]

well everything is out, undercoat and black has been put on. i'm waiting for the 6 coats of black to flash/set/whatever the hell they call it then i'm getting stuck into the clears.

looks ok so far, there's a little run on the drivers side part around the blinker (but not really nasty) and there's a little chip of paint on the grill which looks like a little dint (got some sh!t on it when painting, waited for it to dry then gave it a light sand. edge of the sand paper took off a bit of paint damn it

but so far, so good...gotta love having an air compressor :D

[ahb11m]

6 coats? are you nuts? your acceleration will bog down with that weight!!!

but oh well however you like it, i did 2 coats undercoat, 2 coats of top gloss paint... that was it...

i only did 2 of undercoat, coz i later decided i wanted to smooth it out a bit (ie sand paper) and decided afterwards to paint the whole assembly, rather than just the front, as whn the paint sets, it shrinks, therfore making a coating, rather than pianting... well thats my theory anyway

[ahb11m]

oh PS, TED's help the paint dry faster.... much faster!!

[twilightprotege]

yep 6 - and i just finished 6 coats of clear :D it's all good :D

actually what made it faster for me was 3 dvd's (sad isnt it)

[ahb11m]

3 dvd's?
6 coats of paint???
6 coats of clear??????

damn, i'm glad to see that married life is exciting!!!

no marriage for me, i'm a commitmentphobe, only commitment i can keep is appointments with the mechanic..even then i run late!!!

anyway, sorry where were we??

i suppose i should point out the relavence of TED, to those persons from other states/countries..... Tooheys Extra Dry, is a cold filtered beer, that is drunk like cordial in my house...

[Octane]

I don't mind Tooheys Extra Dry, its been my beer of choice the last 6-12months.... unless I feel poor or feel like a Queenslander and buy XXXX...

Told friend to go see about extractors a few days back, he went and bought them today, trade price $263 which I think is an awesome price for them... will install them tomorrow morning.... cheap as chups....

He got the Wildcat 252 extractors... hope that is the right code :) :) Will know soon enough :P

Microtech still on its way, should be here hopefully by end of next week.

Octane... :)

[ahb11m]

well andy i'm not gonna rant about my internet as promised... the damn thing works fantastically!!! yay for adsl!!!

umm and cars... mines screwed... but we got the air out of the clutch line, and she works sweet, its still wooshing.... any way sorry rambling, bye!!!

[twilightprotege]

so there was air in the clutch line? that's not good.

sounds good about adsl though....damn you ;)

[ahb11m]

tpg, costing me $20 a month, for 200mb, then usage charge... i don't download a lot, except when i update

[Octane]

Extractors went on sweet, except gonna have to visit the exhaust shop quickly cause the cat is hitting on the crossmember?? or something like that. Bought some iridium plugs too...
Car now has full exhaust.... it actually sounds a lot tougher now, like a real car! he was happy, and happy that it pulls to redline (and to cutout) so easily :)
Will throw on the microtech portable AFR sensor on it next time, to see what improvements to the AF ratios have happened since the extractors.

Octane :)

[twilightprotege]

yeah the headers make such a difference. my car i have to really watch the redline now because it hits it so damn hard (reason i want to raise the rev limit). the sound of the cut out is interesting too. tap tap tap tap....reall strange, but i know what it's doing. but yeah, my car sounds damn great. nice and deep sound, lots of splutters (big cams dont help) and just all good power :D

and yes, let us know what the afr's are doing. should be interesting

[Octane]

Just an update: Car went out to Willowbank and did a 15.94 and 15.92 straight off the bat (attn)
Thats a pod filter and full exhaust. He thinks that the K&N inside the standard airbox with the direct cold air feed is just as good, so may change back.

Thats the good news. The bad news is the gearbox. Has any member had problems with the selector forks in SP20's? (notcool)

Octane :)

[twilightprotege]

has he 1/4'd before? i really need to get out there one of these days and see what i do.

when are meets out there for shakedown runs etc? how much does it cost per run?

gearbox - not any more. tell your friend about this link : http://www.astinagt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2366

this is exactly what i have.....i arranged the GB on it

[ahb11m]

i would reccomend that highly, just makes it hard to drive other cars.... like my old mans stock pro.... or me sisters excel.....ewwww sorry i won't say excel again... unless i'm talking about that microsoft thing..... ewww microsoft......

otherwise there is an auto box, that will probably give you a better 1/4... but do you really want that?

[twilightprotege]

yes, no more excel speak!

[Octane]

Thanks for the info... So the short shifter will help in this regard??? This is the 2nd time a selector fork has been bent...

Willowbank has Test-n-Tunes all the time, mostly saturdays, but every 2nd week usually there is a Wednesday Test-n-tune, you get more runs cause not as many people show up. Its www.willowbank-raceway.com.au
Cost is $32 to race as many times as you like, that admits you and another person. Normal admission to watch is around $15 for an adult, so if u bring a friend, it really only costs u 2 bucks to race :P

The car's best time last time was a 16.38 @ 83 MPH, with the majority in the 16.4-16.6 bracket, i believe that it only had the cat back exhaust, and maybe cold air then. Traction is still a little issue off the line, 2.3sec 60foot time isn't soo bad though, his tyre tread is getting very very low.

Car ran 15.92 @ 86.2MPH with the full exhaust done now. So a great improvement with only the addition of extractors.

Catch yas
Octane :)

[Vultz]

Which extractors did he end up getting Octane?

Does an intake make a big difference? I couldnt feel a massive difference between before i had the extractors on and afterwards. It could be that my stock airbox is the bottleneck now?

Id like your advice because the SRI's and CAI are quite expensive even before importing. I'd much rather buy one locally for a good price if anyone knows of places who sell them?

[twilightprotege]

well the short shifter certainly wont hurt, but the biggest thing that will help is the gear box bushings. selecting a gear is so easy now. it's either in or no in

[Vultz]

Can someone help me out with my question?


Does an intake make a big difference? I couldnt feel a massive difference between before i had the extractors on and afterwards. It could be that my stock airbox is the bottleneck now?

Id like your advice because the SRI's and CAI are quite expensive even before importing. I'd much rather buy one locally for a good price if anyone knows of places who sell them?<!-- / message -->

[ahb11m]

yes they do, but we are talking like 5-8hp gains, so its not huge, but it will give you a much smoother acceleration through to the redline

[twilightprotege]

i'd suggest to get a free-flowing intake. after all, the amount of power you produce is directly related to the amount of oxygen you get in

[twilightprotege]

also, on an sp20, the injen cai yields about 5-6whp on a stock engine (5-6kw at the engine). dyno tested and proved by snert and myself

[Vultz]

Anyone know of guys who bought the K&N CAI? I saw it on the protegegarage website. It looks as though it sits up from the wheel well so im wondering whether it's a true CAI? Im worried about vapour lock as the area im in does flood during rainy seasons.

[ahb11m]

andy and snert both have setups similar to the K$N piping, infact its identical... they both have injen intakes, which wer out first, or you can get them off ebay too

[twilightprotege]

dont get the k&n intake - it's way way way overpriced. the injen cai is cheaper and just as good.

in terms of vapour lock, yes the is the possibility of it (kar10w flooded his engine like this), but i have had mine for almost 3 years now (got it not long after i got the car) and i've never had a problem. you just need to be careful!

[Octane]

The extractors were the wildcat ones, think the serial number was 252 or something like that. These are not equal length extractors but seem to be very effective (what I would have expected) over the old cast manifold + primary cat...

In terms of intake..... take off all the factory induction piping/resonators, and run a cold air feed directly into your box... flood prone areas don't have the pipe pointing forward of the car, just point it down. Alternatively get a complete pod setup like the ones mentioned. I'd have no doubt a pod/cold air and pipe would make 5-6KW more than the totally stock intake, its a shocker.

Friend has tried both of these setups, and feels there is not a huge difference in just the K&N inside the stock box, with a direct cold air feed.
Octane :)

[ahb11m]

you could try what i did, which was to dismantle the intake, and fill all the little boxes over, to try and smooth over the intake... and make the small cut in your grill to allow air to be able to move up into the intake

with the injen cai there is a small box you can buy which should protect your pod from getting swamped should you end up in water, but i say if you need to go through water you have two options... the injen is a 2 piece assembly, as is the k&n, you should be able to make it a short intake within about 5 minutes, so if your area is prone to floods by season, then this will be a big help to you

[Octane]

Sorry, just me again....
Had a look at that CorkSport.com website http://www.corksport.com/main.php3?primNavIndex=0&mainURL=%2Fstore%2Findex.php3%3Fcat%3D220747 saw that there are a number of options for the short shift kit, and a few bushings aswell....

Questions.... Which is the best short shifter to get??
What bushings too? I see there is the corksport bronze oil bushings, or the Kartboy shifter bushings.... anyone bought these???

How have people ordered from this site?? Or is there an AUS distributer?

Thanks
Octane :)

[ahb11m]

hmm aus distributer, i like the sounds of that.... i may just enquire on that idea...

anyway, a few guys have ordered from them, and had no problems

a lot of us guys in aus, have bought the TWM shifter, (which is apparantly the shortest) and installed the kartboy shifter bushings to tighten up the intake

if you order from them just go with the US postal service, as most methods cost waaay to much

thats who i want to get my front bar from

[Zed]

Octane, if you're interested, I may have one B&M short shifter left over from the group buy I've organised. One person on the AstinaGT forums hasn't paid up yet and I haven't heard from him for weeks, so when the shifters arrive (hopefully in the next week or so) and if I still haven't heard from him, I'll offer it up to whoever wants it.

[Vultz]

Thanks for the help all.

Will go with the Injen CAI, just have to save up again to get it 0_o

Im interested in getting a shortshifter down the track too. One of my pet peeves of the protege is the huge throw. More room for error if you have to move so far during gear changes.

Next stop is the intake though. Then i really want to get my springs/shocks and struts done

[twilightprotege]

you'll be happy with the intake i'm sure. there's probably a group buy going on now or very soon on this forum

[Octane]

Thanks for the offer Zed, but he didn't sound too crazy when I told him the price in $US. And he doesn't like doing the buying overseas thing... need an AUS distributer.

At the moment the car is awaiting a mazda tech inspection, they seem to have a problem with offering warranty in this instance.

Octane :)

[Vultz]

I was reading an article yesterday night in HPI about what the cops look for when issuing defect tickets. Apparently any pod filter in the engine bay will get you a ticket to go to the RTA inspector. I originally intended to replace the intake with an aftermarket intake of bigger proportions, rather than going the whole pod filter on a metal pipe route. Ive seen one on a site but it still looks quite constrictive. Ill try and find the link for it..

Nowhere to be found 0_o

Ill keep looking

[Octane]

Depending on who you ask it seems that pod filters are illegal/legal. Some say if the pod is securely mounted (so it can't move) then it is legal. Others say they arn't legal unless they are fully enclosed (inside a box).

In terms of bigger airboxes instead of the pod/metal pipe trick, the restriction in a box type setup is the actual box itself. This has been shown before in flow tests and whatnot, but cant remember the magazine.

Essentially they flow loss through a new paper element vs say a K&N panel filter was not that great. The box (and associated stuff) itself was the restriction, partially the small diameter or bending factory plastic piping to the box, the small opening to the box, the positioning of the exit of the box in relation to the intake, the size & type of exit hole (some have bellmouth designs in the box (Pulsar SSS for example) and the piping to the throttle butterflys.

A box can work very well, and a bigger, better flowing box can give improvements, however I think that finding one that will fit and the mucking about is a little over the top. Get rid of the factory piping to the box, make the entry to the box as large as possible, fid some piping (PVC) and shove it in there as the new entry (seal it up), attach some flexible piping to the front of the car... a far better flowing intake than standard. U can do the same to the other side, but u have stuff like AFM, etc... that reduce the intake anyways. Even the flexible pipe onto the original intake hole would be far better than the stock stuff.

Think i have written too much... anyways... not even sure if thats information in regard to you looking for that article....

Octane :P

[Vultz]

No no that was what i was thinking anyway. Over at clubprotege there was an aussie guy called banzai who was going to set about making his own intake with flex pipe and the standard box. He ended up cancelling the project because he ran into some sort of problem, but it should be doable. Ill have to have a look when it stops raining at the box and see what can be done to it.

Otherwise, i will just get the cai if i can't be bothered. Actually, after reading about the shortshifters for the last hour, im seriously considering ordering one before the intake. I wish we had local performance parts dealers for the mazda. The conversions to aussie dollar + shipping makes it very hard to convince myself to buy anything from overseas,

[ahb11m]

ok the legal debate is realted to the pod filter being fixed in place properly, and noise pollution... if the filter and piping isn't properly secured its not good...
the injen is a good one to go, as you can 1: hide it!!! and 2: heat shield the filter away from the engine bay....

mazda should refuse him warranty, especially if he told them where and when it happened!!! your warranty does not extend to extreme conditions such as racing

and the B&M shifters are availabel in australia, therefore you have after sales at hand if you buy it locally, but be prepared for your heart to stop with the local price!!!!

[Vultz]

Fark! What is up with the price of the K&N Typhoon intake on the Corksport site? <TABLE border=0><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap>Our Price:</TD><TD noWrap>$518.00</TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap>Compare To:</TD><TD noWrap>$613.00</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Dunno who they're comparing to, but the site i saw the same filter on has it for less than half that! Crazy.

[Zed]

Vultz, have a look at my post at the top of this page (p21). There may be one B&M short shifter left over from the group buy recently organised which will be up for sale if the guy who originally wanted it doesn't contact me and pay for it.

ahb11m - just out of curiousity, how much is the B&M shifter locally?

[ahb11m]

over 300.. i made enquiry a while ago, and asked them not to tell me if it was over 250, they said it was more than 300, and i left it at that... sorry i didn't get the amounts for ya!!

[Vultz]

Which shifter is the best? I actually was thinking of the TWM as i liked the look of it the best, and then getting the kartboy urethane bushings as well... Plus it's not too dear. $134.95 US will equate okish i think, even with shipping

Zed, thanks for the offer but i heard the B&M wasnt that great?

If any group buys come up for the Injen CAI let me know ;p

Edit: Well logic prevailed. I couldnt justify spending an extra 14 dollars on shipping (US dollars) for just the bushings if i got the twm. I got the kartboy and bushings combo for 105 US plus 18 shipping. Cant wait to get it!!! Will be my first self installed mod on my car so im excited because of that too.

Will let you know how i go

[Zed]

Zed, thanks for the offer but i heard the B&M wasnt that great?
Depends on who you talk to I suppose. I've really only heard good things about the B&M. In fact, most people are pretty happy with whichever shifter they end up with, be it TWM, Kartboy or B&M.

Will be good when we all get them in. We can do a real life comparison between them one day.

Nice price btw.

[Vultz]

Yer for sure. I'd like to go to the next proty meet up when its on if i can make it!

My car has no asthetic mods yet so it looks too stock, but i still love it :D

Thing about getting wheels and new rubber is its a big cost in one go, with the other mods ive done i can kind of save up, get it, then save again.

That reminds me, must start saving again ;P

[syd_speed]

Hi my name is Michael and I recently joined this forum. I'm quite new to car modifying and your forums have given me plenty of ideas on future mods.

I live in Sydney and I own the Sports Edition Protege. I haven't done much to my car, but here are my current mods:

* Lowered 40mm with King Springs
* Denso Iridium sparks
* 15% tinted windows
* G4 blue headlights

[ahb11m]

good start mate!!!

where abouts in sydney are you???

[syd_speed]

Hi ahb11m I'm around the Strathfield area.

[ahb11m]

what you up to on the 22nd??
see
http://www.astinagt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=41574#41574
and
http://www.sydneymazdaclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=990&goto=newpost

[syd_speed]

It's tempting, but I've been booked in on Sunday. Sorry mate. But keep me posted on future cruises, cause I've been to one wid my friend and I loved it.

Thanks for the offer though.

[twilightprotege]

welcome to the forum michael!

there is heaps of info on this forum, so i'm sure you'll enjoy it!

like james said great start to your mods....a very common start...but hey it's common because it works!

[IGuDaI]

Hi!!!
My name is Allan and i live down in VIC. I was wonder if u blokes might be able know where to purchase a turbo kit for my Astina SP20???
I have gotten quotes from AVO and MAZTECH who customise their kits, but i find it kinda pricey!!!Plus i think it would be cheaper for a bolt on turbo kit.
Can you guys help???

My current Mods:
lowered King Springs (2inch)
15% tinted windows
Uni-Filter
Exhaust (Cat. Back)

My Future Mods:
Turbo chargers
Rear stabilizers
Headers
Extractors
Engine mounts

[twilightprotege]

welcome allan!

there are numerous turbo kits available. mostly in america, but streetdreams (www.streetdreams.com.au) in sydney import the hiboost kit and modify it to suit the australian sp20. send a PM to wiredone. he was the first turbo sp20 in australia (with the hiboost kit).

how much have avo and maztech quoted you?

[IGuDaI]

AVO quoted me $7-8000 (a gain of 60%)
MAZTECH $5-6000 (a gain of 100Kw @ Wheels)
both of em are running on a 9psi i think!!!

Do u think my car can handle such a boost in power???
What have u guys done to ur ride???

[ahb11m]

street dreams is about $8000
the dollars your talking about sound pretty good
and as to the boost it should handle 9 ok, but anymore than that you better start strenthening stuff!!!

[twilightprotege]

the maztech sounds good, but obviously all depends on the quality of work and what's included.

personally i wouldnt run anywhere near 9psi on our 2.0L engines. 5-6psi tops. any more than that and you'll have broken rods in no time

[IGuDaI]

well i was told maztech's pretty good and also well known down here.
included in the package there's:
ECU
intercooler
garrett ball bearing turbocharger
exhaust (cat-back)
Blow-Off Valve
i guess everything u need to get it up and running.

would it be safe to say that our car can run on 6psi with no probs stock example brakes, stability etc???

hey twilightprotege, what psi is the mazdaspeed progete5 running on??? i might follow that.

thanks for ur help guys

[wiredone]

hey there matey,
first off i wouldn't go about re inventing the wheel... i have spent countless hours getting it just right, and i can tell you our cars aren't simply "bolt on a turbo" and off you go. there is alot to be taken into consideration, first off with your current setup: compression
with our hi compression engines it has to be just right... our kit runs 7-8psi and its about as hi as we could get it safely... and your still talking of high injector duty cycle so your injectors may only last around a year. as far as cat back exhaust i'd laugh at them as it won't do sweet FA for a turbo car as you still have to get around the fact that is 2 1/4" up to your turbo.
Our kits run a full engine management system (fuel and ignition) and you'd definitely want it... !!!! I AM SERIOUS !!! running it dog rich and hoping for gold is a dream... There is alot of things that maztech will have to learn the hard way while installing and running your car on boost...
I'd be more than happy to answer any questions you have and i hope we can have another forced sp on the streets...
p.s mazda speeds in the states don't count as they have forged rods and lower compression than our engines so comparing your boost to theirs would be pointless in estimating your safety level. =)
keep on chargin twilight =p hopefully we can finally meet up soon... and good luck on the track

[twilightprotege]

wired - the msp's dont have forged rods actually! they just run no psi on the 9.1:1 comp setup. so dodgy.

yeah mate we'll have to catch up soon - maybe at the agt annual cruise early next year - that's when i'm next down that way

[SpicyMchaggis]

hey andrew and other aussies..I've been trying to get the aussie/EDM bumper for my 2002 protege for a while now from TSTAR..He has the sunlight silver (matches mine) bumper with fogs..Any of you guys think you can source one out for me? Tidy Protege has the bumper i'm refering to in his sig.

[twilightprotege]

i was asked the same thing by rodscalip5 - the bumper was cheap enough, but the shipping was a shocker! it worked out cheaper through corksport

[SpicyMchaggis]

through corksport? since when does corkspot offer that bumper? I've never seen it on there.

[twilightprotege]

yeah that's what he said. he was emailing them i think

[tidy protege]

i dont get why people want my front bumper, its completly stock and it would be easier and cheaper to get something that actually looks good and not sooo tame like my front bumper. If i was you id go for the mazda speed front bumper or an mp3 front bumper. Ive decided im gonna just get a sp20 body kit and get a new boot with out the spoiler. I also want to get 17s of what i have now and further drop it also. Do many aussies get stuff through cork motorsport as i like alot of their things in their catelog namely the JDM engine accessories.

[SpicyMchaggis]

corksport doesn't have that bumper, they have the lip for it. thats all thats on the site. i just want the bumper because it looks better than mine and i don't feel like converting all kinds of crap. unless i have to with that bumper, in which case..p5 bumper.

[ahb11m]

go to www.ozeparts.com.au they have your bumper on there - just remember its a ASTINA ...

[SpicyMchaggis]

but do you think it'd work on my car? Would i have to convert the rear bar and such?

[ahb11m]

what?? why are you converting the rear bar???
i thought we were talking about the front bar

and i just realised you have a sedan - sorry my bad
sedan=protege
hatch=astina

[tidy protege]

Dont worry man iv had some close calls driving like a tool and ive fucked up two of my rims i just havent bent to many panels yet and i hope dont in the future. By the way if you need help with the newcastle cruise pm me on this forum or astina gt and ill be more than happy to help you out as i live in maitland.

[BigStarS]

tidy...with the extra money ur spending...y dont u just get a SP20???

[tidy protege]

tidy...with the extra money ur spending...y dont u just get a SP20???
I have thought about it but i would lose too much money as it would cost more to trade mine in for an sp20 than it would would to get the body kit. By the way the only sp20 which i really want you are lucky enough to own(limted edition protege) . Also at a later date i wouldnt mind getting the same tail lights as yours.

but like most people here my wish list is a mile long and i could quite easily spend 10 grand if i could get my hands on it.

[twilightprotege]

dont forget the 1.8L engine is the same as the 2.0L, just less stroke. also, the 1.8L has the same potential power as the 2.0L, just that it'll make the power at a higher rpm.

[BigStarS]

hmmm...suddenly....the SP doesn't seem so good~~~good luck with the upgrades!!

[twilightprotege]

the SP is nothing fantastic. i got it purely because it was just released and the body kit and upgraded interior

[Leroy]

Hi Guys.

My name is Liam and I'm from Vic. I drive a silver 2003 SP20 manual sedan. No mods to speak of yet, but am looking at doing some over the next few months. Previous car was a VR commodore 5 speed manual. I can confidently say the sp20 is a much nicer ride!

Anyways, just thought I'd say g'day as I've been browsing this website over the past couple of months.

Catch u guys soon!

[twilightprotege]

welcome! i'm sure you'll enjoy it here. there is so much information!

and feel free to ask questions - there is always someone who knows the answer

[IGuDaI]

waddup felloz
i js got some new rims!!!
2004 volk - rayz engineering TE37 cup(deep ass dish) 17 by 7
wantd the light gram 1 but itz going for about $800 a rim
so i got these sweetiez for $400

hey is powerchip australia serious? a gain of 13kw from this chip???
u guys know any good chips???

liam - which part of vic u from???

[Leroy]

I live in Caulfield. By the way I've had a powerchip before in my commodore. To be honest didn't really notice that much improvement. Mind you, that was a replacement chip that had been pre-programmed.

Liam

[Zed]

Those wheels look schweet! Show us some pics! :)

[twilightprotege]

woohoo! love those TE37 wheels!

with the powerchip - yeah probably, but at the engine. you can get around 6kw at the engine by getting an injen cold air intake...

I will be looking in to chiptorque's Xede chip (www.xede.com.au) very shortly. will let yowl know how that goes. should take me over 150whp (112kw at the wheels - stock is 73kw at the wheels)

[sxcprotege]

hey ppls, my names andre' and im from brisbane. I have 97 mazda protege limited edition, just diff badges and interior from the factory when i got it, since then i have installled a 7 inch g reddy barrel exhaust, started the blue leather interior( just the doors atm), 2 rockford fosgate 12 inch subs in custom silver leather boot 100rms digital audioline amp. blue plasma neons throughout, jvc front splits, 6x9 rockford splits, jvc dvdplayer / cd, 3 shades darker than darkest legal tinting.. all i need is sum mags now to set the car off. ne 1 in brissy or the coast have a 2nd hand set of rims that i can buy to use 4 now?

[twilightprotege]

welcome! we actually have a meet (small) tonight if you're interested. meeting at aspley mcdonalds at 6pm then springwood mcd's around 645 then some guys are heading down to the broadwater carpark. i'm only going to aspley and springwood.

anyway, sounds like you have a pretty nice car there. being a 97, is it a BA? if so, is it a v6 or 1.8?

[55SIC]

Welcome to the forum sxcprotege!!!

How much is the xede chip worth? and what sort of increase is it meant to give you?

[sxcprotege]

sorry man didn't see ure msg in time to go out too, give us a yell next time on me email or on msn, my addys jimbojones316@hotmail.com

just added a monster tacho lol, its onli a 1.6 atm but i have a plan once ive paid it off to fit a mazda gtx familia motor in it.. ive found a half cut familia for $3500 so its on the books, but 4 now the skyline exhaust is so god damn loud every1 thinks ive got a 6 cyl in there already lol, im down broady every 2nd week with me carclub, i'll be there this weekend coming..
ttyl Andre

i can get a chip through work but they are unmapped.. apparently they give 35kw extra...

[ROB-80E]

(hi) Just letting you guys that know me, I'm lurking here too.

I need/want LSD...hopefully can sort something out for the astina, as the box is pulled apart waiting..

[ahb11m]

rob, best thing you have in your favour is the fact that the F series box, and G series box is universal between the models - from what i can work out...

might be helpful for you

F25MR i think is the nice box.... don't quote me on it

[ROB-80E]

That'd be a down grade for me...F series boxes are too weak in both the shaft design and the diffs. I already have a G550 box in the astina and have a spare G25M that I'm wanting to build up and put in.

Currently trying to get as much info on the MSP LSD diff as possible.

[ahb11m]

sorry my bad... i still get the 2 confused ;P
then its a G25MR

there is another LSD available...
okay the part numbers for the MSP - GS01-27-190A
also try http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/

or http://web2.airmail.net/theman/protegefaq/transmission.html for more info

[ROB-80E]

Hehehe, yeah that's cool.

That's the LSD I'm chasing. From what I've been told (haven't tried myself yet) dealing with Mazdamotorsports can be quite difficult if your not a company. But yeah, I'll give it a go.

Is Wiredone the only person that's imported one of these things?

[twilightprotege]

sxc - www.astinagt.com/forums is the place for cruise info, this is the place for mod info.

rob, i think wired is the only one to import one, but i have been thinking of one for a bit. maybe a big dollar GB?