APEX 3" exhuast--see what you think about it? [Archive]

apexcivic

10-18-2003, 12:24 AM

We are finished with the 3" exhaust, we change the muffler design, going with a large muffler N1 style. DP with Cat. is redesign also. there are the pics. I am still working on the pirces....let you guys know next week. we will do a group deal once we get the Auth. vendor status set up.
The Exhaust will be a 3 piece system, both 2.5 and 3" will be the same set up. We will have the Dyno charts when its ready.
Thanks Ben

/members/apexcivic/cat dp on car.jpg

/members/apexcivic/msp dp with cat.jpg

/members/apexcivic/msp 3in 1.jpg

/members/apexcivic/msp 3in 2.jpg

/members/apexcivic/msp 3in 3.jpg

xoom xoom

10-18-2003, 12:32 AM

Wait your company makes exhausts and they are called APEX using an "N1" Style muffler. It seems a little to close to Apei because many people referr to them as Apex.

kazson

10-18-2003, 12:40 AM

i wouldnt worry about that too much. they been around since 92' and look to be pushin alot into the MSP. i cant wait to see the numbers on the exhaust..

i in no way have sny connection with them but check out there site good stuff

http://www.apexr1.com/mazdaspeed.html

Larone

10-18-2003, 01:05 AM

Ditto kazson. They are doing a marvellous job. They aren't affiliated aith Apexi (Apex Integration), but it really seems like they know their stuff! Can't wait to see the charts!

Eric-BlackMSP

10-18-2003, 01:20 AM

I'm in if the price is right, and if you guys are working on the S bend pipe! :)

Eric

BMC

10-18-2003, 01:31 AM

I'd be interested in the exhaust too, I have your DP on order now.

1338

10-18-2003, 01:47 AM

3" DP with cat? im in. but not if gonna be $499

Torco-MSP

10-18-2003, 01:48 AM

that looks mean!!
nice work...

SuperSpud

10-18-2003, 01:54 AM

I'll take one please.. oh wait, we have to pay for it? damn... looks like I'll be waiting a while :(

joka1

10-18-2003, 02:12 AM

i want one.... when are prices going to be available?????

apexcivic

10-18-2003, 02:45 AM

We are working on the price for the exhaust.... we are shooting for high quality products with an affordable price. most of the system are over $600+, we will be under $500 for the 3" system and even lower for 2.5" system. As far as the name issue.. "APEX" is not the name of our exhuast, thats our shop "Apex motorsports of Tempe". We are in no way trying to use the name "APEX" to gain business from members, most of the members knows APEX for our DP for the MSP.
The "S" pipe will not make production by us. we had our prototype 2.5" flow tested VS. the factory pipe, we saw min. gains...With the cost issue in mind, we are not going to make it. I just don't think $300 is a good HP-vs-$ ratio for the part.

apexcivic

10-18-2003, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by 1338
3" DP with cat? im in. but not if gonna be $499
I am not sure about the clearance on the 3" DP with our design. i dont think it will clear the cross member with out making bents in the DP, I be happy to work on it if more people are intersted on the 3" DPs. far as cost....We are selling the 2.5" cat units for $399. The 3" Cat. DP should be around $425 or less.

AFaceInTheCrowd

10-18-2003, 03:45 AM

umm, i'm confused... is the dp in the pics 3" as well? if it is, i'm VERY interested. i wanna go 3", nothing less. hopefully, you guys can provide a 3" full turbo back for less than 1 grand. if you can, i'm sooo in.

apexcivic

10-18-2003, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by AFaceInTheCrowd
umm, i'm confused... is the dp in the pics 3" as well? if it is, i'm VERY interested. i wanna go 3", nothing less. hopefully, you guys can provide a 3" full turbo back for less than 1 grand. if you can, i'm sooo in.
the DP is still 2.5", we're think about the 3" DP but clearance is an issue with our design..have to check in to it. i like to test interest on the DP

EVADE

10-18-2003, 03:54 AM

are you going to make one for P5s? i would be intrested!

apexcivic

10-18-2003, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by EVADE
which protege is it for? a P5? i would be intrested!
Exhaust and DPs are for MSP Proteges

evilmonkeyMSP

10-18-2003, 02:59 PM

ok so our exhaust goes from the turbo to the s-pipe to the dp to rest of the exhaust components ? correct (being vague here) so what will it cost to go from the s-pipe and back in 2.5"? basically what will it cost for the dp and full exhaust?

Eric-BlackMSP

10-18-2003, 03:27 PM

Apex let me know when production starts, I am very interested in a fully 3 in turbo back. Hit me up as soon as you guys are ready to sell.

Eric

turboge

10-18-2003, 04:07 PM

I have a 3" DP with no clearance issues.

Ljspeed

10-18-2003, 04:11 PM

Im definitely interested in the 3inch exhaust as well. Also pics of the exhaust on the car would be awesome:)

doggman

10-18-2003, 05:25 PM

ya i am soooo in as well. i really would like to purchase the 3" cat back as well as a 3" dp(if available) with a high flow cat on that. doesnt the msp come stock with two cats? if yes then the dp only has one and with a high flow cat mhmmmm the possiblities!!!
also does the 3" cat back system go over or under the axle. if under, will there be a clearence issue with a lowered vehicle(i will be purchasing iback PRO lowering springs)?
-dave
Yes exhaust!!!!!

apexcivic

10-18-2003, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by doggman
ya i am soooo in as well. i really would like to purchase the 3" cat back as well as a 3" dp(if available) with a high flow cat on that. doesnt the msp come stock with two cats? if yes then the dp only has one and with a high flow cat mhmmmm the possiblities!!!
also does the 3" cat back system go over or under the axle. if under, will there be a clearence issue with a lowered vehicle(i will be purchasing iback PRO lowering springs)?
-dave
Yes exhaust!!!!!
I am putting the 3" DP on the Fab list next. our exhaust system will go under the axle, this make less bents in the cat-back system. on a non-lower MSP the 3" exhaust has a 7"+ ground clearance from our test car. the min clearance we suggest is 4". there should not be any problems on lower MSPs.

apexcivic

10-18-2003, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Ljspeed
Im definitely interested in the 3inch exhaust as well. Also pics of the exhaust on the car would be awesome:)
The exhaust looks just like the old 2.5" exhaust. angles out to the right side, but now with a bigger muffler it looks mean!!!!but quite sound until you get on it. do a search in group buy section. the pics for the 2.5" are in the post.

DiscreetSpeed

10-18-2003, 08:47 PM

ummm man i have the downpipe, now ya'll gone and done did this....MAN now i gotta spend more money...

irr5302

10-18-2003, 10:52 PM

I want 2.5 with cat and with porcelain thermo cover

att irr

evilmonkeyMSP

10-19-2003, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by fkmitsu
ok so our exhaust goes from the turbo to the s-pipe to the dp to rest of the exhaust components ? correct (being vague here) so what will it cost to go from the s-pipe and back in 2.5"? basically what will it cost for the dp and full exhaust?

apexicivic? no answer? sad am i

apexcivic

10-19-2003, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by fkmitsu
apexicivic? no answer? sad am i
fkmitsu, I am still working on the price. I'll Post it early next week.
for sure it will be under $800

I-Am-Chris

10-19-2003, 06:51 PM

how bout one without cats????? :-) dont have them now dont want them

evilmonkeyMSP

10-19-2003, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by apexcivic
The exhaust looks just like the old 2.5" exhaust. angles out to the right side, but now with a bigger muffler it looks mean!!!!but quite sound until you get on it. do a search in group buy section. the pics for the 2.5" are in the post.

hey can anyone post the link for this G/B cuz i cant find it and i would like to see pics.

03Speed

10-19-2003, 11:47 PM

i dont remember from the other thread but does the exhaust go under or over the axle? My car is lowered about 2/2.5 inches and i was wondering if there will be any clearance issues

Striker187

10-20-2003, 12:45 AM

it goes under. here's the link to the other thread but it looks like the pics no longer work. maybe azspeed has some pics he'd like to share :)

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb230/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33760&highlight=exhaust

EVILSRT

10-20-2003, 01:36 AM

lol^ I wish, what you see there is all I have. I will be getting some pics up ASAP.

Eric-BlackMSP

10-20-2003, 11:09 AM

Hey apexcivic, can you post a file of what your turbo back sounds like? I want to hear it before I buy it. Thanks.

Eric

ARunto

10-20-2003, 11:47 AM

does the 3" exhuast have a silencer?

EVILSRT

10-20-2003, 01:18 PM

^ I dont belive so, I hope Ben will post some more info.

Eric-BlackMSP

10-20-2003, 09:58 PM

>Bump<

I check your website, looks tight. Kind of pricey, but still the cheapest thing out there! :).

But what does it sound like?
Can we add our own muffler instead of a house muffler?
I want to add the HKS carbon ti!! :)

Other then that awesome product, I will be ordering one for christmas! woohoo :).

Eric

Eric-BlackMSP

10-20-2003, 09:59 PM

Oh and hurry up and make a FMIC package that includes hardpiping with a BOV flange for 1k! :) I'd buy one of those!

Eric

EVILSRT

10-20-2003, 11:41 PM

The exhaust note is so deep and throaty. No rasp no rice. Sounds so sick. And still not very loud. I cruise in 100% comfort. Any other questions feel free to PM me.

apexcivic

10-21-2003, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by Eric-BlackMSP
Hey apexcivic, can you post a file of what your turbo back sounds like? I want to hear it before I buy it. Thanks.

Eric
I will try to do it, I will post the finish product pics when we reinstall on to AZSpeeds car with the sound clip. no silencer on this muffler, i dont think it needs it....dont mind the pirce yet, its not set in stone. we will make it very fair. we are only offering the system with the Tsudo "N1" style muffler. dont worry....I would not use it unless I think its a good product and for me to put my name on it.

EVILSRT

10-21-2003, 01:45 AM

Yeah, Tsudo sounds SO damn nice.

Eric-BlackMSP

10-21-2003, 03:01 PM

I really dont want to use the Tsudo exhaust :( My friend has it on his eclispe, it is a nice exhaust but I really wanted a known brand like Apexi N1 and not a N1 style. Call me crazy.

Hey ben is there anyway we could work something out? Like you put a N1 on my exhaust? Hit me up with a answer.

The tsudo does sound nice, but I just prefer name brand, plus Tsudo is liek psuedo and that means fake :).

Eric

GotBoost

10-21-2003, 03:48 PM

I'm very interested in a 3" turbo back for under $800. hmmm I feel the spending of my X-mas bonus already. an audio file would be nice though before I'd shell out the $$$. I've been burned before and like to see/hear the product before purchase.

Eric-BlackMSP

10-21-2003, 07:29 PM

The tsudo is a very deep sounding muffler, it sounds really nice, but on some cars it does sound like a drone. My friends 2G is the prime example, when he is crusining it is a little louder then most other exhausts, and then when he wails on it, it is like a low rumble then steadily getting higher and higer.

I just hope apex will let me add a Apexi N1 onto thier catback instead of paying for the tsudo. I really wanted the HKS ti!! :(

But I am NOT paying spool's 750+shipping, that is a rip off imo :(

Eric

turboge

10-21-2003, 07:38 PM

I have my 3" turbo back (non s-pipe) up for sale in the For Sale section right now for half that... take a look

apexcivic

10-21-2003, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by Eric-BlackMSP
I really dont want to use the Tsudo exhaust :( My friend has it on his eclispe, it is a nice exhaust but I really wanted a known brand like Apexi N1 and not a N1 style. Call me crazy.

Hey ben is there anyway we could work something out? Like you put a N1 on my exhaust? Hit me up with a answer.

The tsudo does sound nice, but I just prefer name brand, plus Tsudo is liek psuedo and that means fake :).

Eric
we can work something out after we finish the exhaust. but price will go up with a expensive exhaust muffler. how about we talk about it after you hear the sound clip?

suttonschinook

10-21-2003, 11:37 PM

Is final pricing set? Are you planning on doing a group buy? Any sort of discount if you buy both the DP and Cat-back? Thanks, Evan

lamp3

10-22-2003, 12:42 AM

sorry for the thread jack. hey apex, on your 2.5 DP's how much loss does the one with the cat have compared to the "outlaw" pipe?

apexcivic

10-22-2003, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by lamp3
sorry for the thread jack. hey apex, on your 2.5 DP's how much loss does the one with the cat have compared to the "outlaw" pipe?
no final price yet until next week, working on it....will do group buy when its all ready to go. we are dynoing next week for the cat-DP unit and the exhausts. I will post them asap. AZSpeed has been very busy so we have to work around his off time.
Ben

apexcivic

10-22-2003, 12:52 AM

xoom xoom

10-22-2003, 01:24 AM

So any plans to make to make a cat back pipe to axel back for a Protege5? I have the HKS and wanted a 2.25inh manderal bent pipe to go from the hks to my cat.

EVILSRT

10-22-2003, 02:11 AM

I will get in there ASAP. Sorry Ben shit has been very hectic and my life sucks so hard right now:(.

Eric-BlackMSP

10-22-2003, 01:46 PM

I know what it sounds like, its not a question of sound quality, the Tsudo sounds incredabile, but the fact is I like name brand stuff :). I'm crazy! I really want the HKS carbon ti on the muffler :) PM or IM me on Aim.

Eric :)

apexcivic

10-22-2003, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by AZSpeed
I will get in there ASAP. Sorry Ben shit has been very hectic and my life sucks so hard right now:(.
dude..its cool...i am on your time, no biggie