gear and shifting problem

[kk52736]

is this normal when you put in every next gear it is not smooth, and like click click before complete go in.....i used to had a civic and it never do that unless the clutch is time to change....so anyone know what happen or how can i make it smoother when go next upper gear?

[alexlitov]

Fully depress the clutch pedal...

[mazdadan]

Originally posted by kk52736
is this normal when you put in every next gear it is not smooth, and like click click before complete go in.....i used to had a civic and it never do that unless the clutch is time to change....so anyone know what happen or how can i make it smoother when go next upper gear?

Mazda has a little more of a "notchy" shift than most cars (aka Honda). You may want to master the skill of matching revs so your shifter will go into gear easier and the shifts will be smoother.

[kurt]

You could go buy a Civic...

[kk52736]

I did Fully depress the clutch pedal BUT still................not smooth, by the way i been driving a standard car for 7 years, and i know how to ride them.................

[brucelee]

yea sometimes i have the same thing...i mean going to 2nd, 3rd. not the rest. i think i'm shifting too fast sometimes. but yea, i want to talk to mazda about that. i have a list of issues that i hope they will look at and fix for free.

[toucci]

theres nothing wrong with the tranny. shift with proper timing and it'll be silky smooth. you just gotta get used to it.

[c0nfus3d]

mazda shifting is not exactly "tricky" jus sumtin u have to work on...ive been driving stick for about 4months?and i have it down already its smooth.....cuz dat 2nd n 3rd were usually notchy

[TheMAN]

stfu n00b


Originally posted by kurt
You could go buy a Civic...

[PhreakV]

redline 75w90 gear oil + time using butt sensor should smooth things out.

[cervy]

ive noticed this too i learned to drive manual on a jeep wrangler so the p5 transmission is taking me a while to get down.....just hope im not doing too much harm in the process to my clutch....


whats the best way to learn or practice matching rpm's or getting the timing down?

[edwinlaw]

Yeah, I have noticed this too. I had been driving a standard Honda Civic for 8 years. When I switched to my P5, I found shifting from 2nd to 3rd jerky. One way I found to reduce this jerkiness is to shift at over 3500rpm.

[kk52736]

yeah same feeling, but i just found shift at 2700rpm can go smooth at 2nd and 3rd gear.

[cbcbd]

Originally posted by cervy
whats the best way to learn or practice matching rpm's or getting the timing down?
Observation and practice:

You basically have to learn your RPMs at a certain speed in each gear. Then you'll have some points that you'll know (ie 2nd gear, 20mph, ~2000rpms)and be able to adjust from there.
Plus, you'll just get so used to it after a while that you'll be able to rev match most gears to any speed when shifting into them from neutral (car rolling in neutral, match rpms to speed, press clutch and put it into gear - get it smooth so your rpms don't have to adjust much at all) - that's always fun practice, even though it's not recommended to let your car coast in neutral.

When upshifting generally let the rpms drop between 500-800 rpms. When downshifting, blip (tap the gas) the throttle to send up the rpms by around the same range.

[cervy]

coolio....thanks for the tips

ive noticed that bliping the throttle while upshifting though helps alot too to not cause that jerkyness....the throttle is very sensitive from what ive noticed...

[kk52736]

When upshifting generally let the rpms drop between 500-800 rpms. When downshifting, blip (tap the gas) the throttle to send up the rpms by around the same range.

this will make the car go extremely slow....?!

[jjac28]

i always add a bit of gas when shifting into 3rd..it makes it more smooth.
the p5 seems like it has a very sensitive clutch/gear system, it's so easy to drive like shit if you're not concentrating.

[jjac28]

Originally posted by alexlitov
Fully depress the clutch pedal...

:wtf: ???

[PhreakV]

just being sarcastic

[osudewd]

I coast in neutral all the time and then put it back into gear when traffic starts speeding up and stuff. Why is it not reccomended to let the car coast in neutral?

[ELEmental59437]

If you get a little bit of a grinding sound or you feel the gear catching before you take your foot off the clutch it may be a synchro problem. I had that problem with 3rd hear and its being fixed right now. If it just feels notchy then it is basically normal for this transmission. Synthetic tranny fluid will help some.

What seems to help some is to have the RPM's match the gear your going into before you actually shift into that gear. Less work for your tranny but more work for you.

[kk52736]

suffering the notchy clutch for 1 year, and finally had change my tranny oil to synthetic 75w90, and it was a little better, so try it and also good for your car.

[NJP5Guy]

You asked about the click, click phenomenon....you ever hear the term "snick, snick" shifting.....well thats how its is supposed to be when you put the car in gear. there are two bumps(for lack of a better word) you go over before the gear is engaged when shifting. don't forget that when shifting it may seem jerky when you apply a bit of throttle because our motor mounts are soft as hell so the engine is rocking all the time. can't wait til i get the awr motor mounts.

[Replica]

If i shift into 2nd after a high rpm in 1st, I always get a grind. The clutch pedal is all the way down. My Civic did it too. I'm just too fast for the synchros yo!

[Protege52003]

I have a Clutch Master clutch and Fidanza lightweight flywheel. This combo makes fast shifting great and you have to blip the throttle when slow shifting becasue the RPMs fall really fast. I get a little grinding when going into third gear sometimes when slow shifting, but nothing bad.

I use amsoil synthetic fluid that is good for the next 150K????

The shifting is a little notchy, but I have driven worse shifting cars. My g/f just got a new Jetta and the germans make a nice smooth drivetrain.